Ruined

Germany spoiled you jack haha. Look at the bright side though, at least you’re located in a good state for strip clubs.

If your retired fuck it bro and move...hell you got me wanting to move to Germany

All of us here would feel the same way on our first visit to an American strip club after visiting an FKK. With the whole FKK experience for you being recent, it would probably take a while to readjust. I think it could take a couple more visits to your regular clubs to get back on track. If after a few visits you feel the whole experience is still ruined, then perhaps it is time to move on.

While I’ve never experienced anything like an FKK, or even Tijuana, I do kind of know the feeling about an experience being ruined. My first two years going to strip clubs was in Wisconsin. The clubs had full nudity and alcohol, but you are not allowed to touch the dancer. When I moved to the Detroit area, my first club visit was in Windsor where this really hot Russian chick gave me a lap dance, grabbed my hands and placed them on her breasts. After experiencing that, I will never visit a Wisconsin strip club again. Then, a little over a year ago, when I first got extras in a strip club, the whole experience was ruined for me a week later when I went back to my then regular non-extras club.

Germany needs better lasagna - so you should make a trip back! Those FKK clubs sound amazing. It’s almost impossible to compare a strip club to an FKK club. The girls in a strip club are there to give as little as possible - while charging as much as possible. The girls in FKK clubs are there to fuck.

Part of the SC experience that I really enjoy is the "tease" aspect of it. If I wanted to just fuck an anonymous partner on a P4P basis I'd go the escort route.

It sounds like the FKKs don't provide that and are more like a brothel. Totally different experience.

I do like what you said about the cost though.

Maybe you could learn to make the vienerschnitzel and mix it up with your lasagnas.
;)

Never been to an FKK but I did get to Hong Kong in Tijuana for the first time earlier this year. Had a similar affect on me. I still go to strip clubs in the US. But I spend considerably less now. I now say no when that beautiful girl offers herself to me for several hundred dollars. Of course, moving to Tijuana is not an option. I guess moving to San Diego could be an option if it weren't for the high real estate prices and high California taxes.

You can't compare bordellos with strip clubs. Obviously you are going to get full blown sex of your choice in a bordello but I've never been in one where I got GFE or mad a hook up for OTC.

What I'd like to know is what your actual cost was per each orgasm you had. What was your costs for air fare, hotels, etc. If you add that in, I'll bet it was at least $100 more than the $60 you quoted for a 30 minute session.

BTW I went to Frankfurt back in the 70's and paid $10 for streetwalkers.

I refuse to listen to people who live in Detroit bitching about the quality of the strip clubs. At least that girl would have had sex with you for $300. Many guys are paying that and more just to play with their tits.

I am jealous that you got to visit FKKs. They sound like the greatest place on earth.

I have the same feeling. Tijuana spoiled me for US clubs (where I was getting extras and OTC). Then I went to the FKKs for the first time two years ago. (Just got back from a trip to Sharks and Oase last month. Review for Oase is posted. Review for Sharks is in work.) Tijuana and Germany are different experiences, but they both have made me very picky when it comes to US clubs. Germany doesn't have the strip club feel, but do you really need to see one girl dancing on a poll topless to get excited? Compare that with Germany where dozens of hot girls walk around naked. In Tijuana, you get both.

Factoring in airfare and hotel into the cost for sex is not a fair comparison when the trip is made for other purposes, such as work or tourism. If you are there already, the price comparison is apples/apples.

Banging a stripper in the club is so limited, it's a dark room with a seat, nothing more. It can't hold a candle to the world's brothels/clubs.

@flagooner that is what is great about the fkk is that there is still a tease aspect to it. The girls come and talk and try to “seduce” you similar to a strip club. The big difference is when you get to the room.

I can see how the run-of-the mill, introspective losers on here could be "ruined", but of course I'm not like the rest of the PLs here. I've never lacked for female companionship, have my pick of gorgeous, civilian, model quality young women to date and fuck for free, not to mention my stripper FWBs.

Fkk sounds really awesome! Im eight days away from the monger paradise down south! I haven't been to hog kong yet but i could see how you could be ruined i have never been and already tired of overpriced stripclubs i think its better to save your monger money and go nuts somewhere like fkk or tj!

More attractive than an 8 all 9's and 10's wow!

As I posted in another thread, a college-buddy of mine lived and worked overseas in various locations including Asia and once he relocated back to the US he felt the mogering scene sucked in quality, cost, and experience, and couldn't really adjust to it - and have met several guys over the years that choose to travel internationally a couple of times per year than monger in the states.

YOLO - move to Germany - you can always move back or live there part-time or maybe just live there for a year, you can rent-out your Detroit home for that time (there are some landlord services that handle the renting for you but IDK if they're worth it) - and you can also experience other parts of Europe that seem fairly accessible via their advanced train-system - enjoy your golden years while you still have the health and energy

^ see it as an adventure/second-life

i need to book a flight...

Hmmm... I see a round-trip flight to Frankfurt for $399....

Take it for what it is, a vacation. Too much of a good thing becomes boring.

Having said it, I may have to check it out, (the cheaper TJ/HK never really appealed to me), but some of themsee Germanginas are hooooott.

I need to go check it out to see if those euro chicks' ass are as smooth as the latinas' which I doubt it.

@jackslash - ha ha - I was going to say that last week when you were reporting LIVE from Sharks !!!

And decided not to ruin your moment (wisely so).

Good news - It WILL wear off.
Human Body and Mind is amazing.
It will adapt to your new reality.
If you don't believe me - try this experiment - park yourself in your mom's basement for a month, heck - 2 weeks. You will start having feelings for a goat. (That's what I hear happened to a guy here on tuscl)

@ ainslee if i lived that close to tj i wouldn't even care bout europe! Would love to find my avatar at h k lol shes hot!

I think I banged her.

My best experience inside a strip club here does not match what I experienced at an FKK. Retire in Europe and you'll be banging 8-10s on a regular basis. 300 will get you laid 3 times a week by your dream women. It's like having your own harem that someone else takes care of. I had my best threesome there that I'll never forget.

Jack, you're hurting and have withdrawal symptoms. I know exactly how you feel. My first Sharks visit had the same effect on me. Going there on a Friday/Saturday is fatal and changes your outlook on strip clubs. As Shadow says they are two totally separate things but if the goal is to get laid with hot babes then FKK's win every time.

If I were you I'd be tempted to cut back on local visits and venture to Germany again, but you really must go to Oase. I found Oase to be better that Sharks a few weeks ago.

Having just come back from fkk land, i am headed to tijuana again for some latin comparison. To be honest I think it depends on your preference in women. Having said that how can you beat a $50 cover for steam and sauna room, free beer, free buffet, showers, sleep area, massages, and hundreds of 10s! Also I know most go to Frankfurt but I would recommend Cologne.

Consider this: $100 for a threesome with your choice of 2 10s for 30 mins in a nice room.

@ che i've been to tj several times you fucking jackass! You don't know anything bout me you son of a bitch! I was stationed in san diego in the 90's you asshat! I have been there several times you fucking cocksucker! I haven't been to hk because it wasn't there.

Im just excited to go back so go fuck yourself

Lol

He's in the Philipeens, he fucks cheap dark skinned asians.

@ ainslee everyone is entitled to their opininion but what pissed me off was the incestous comment no need for that!

He put down HK called it low end, I doubt he went there recently.

incestous, incessant

tomayto, tomahto

At least he didn't say you were introspective

glad @che and @Countryman5434 are clearing up misunderstanding.
You both are great contributors to TUSCL. Thank you.

I joined TUSCL 6 years ago and this was my first post:
https://www.tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=…

As far as I have come along - would not be possible without the supportive folks at TUSCL.
And everyday is a new adventure and a new learning.

@ Che

You described Hong Kong as being low-end. A lot of experienced posters on this site seem to view Hong Kong as one of the best places for a monger to go. Which places would you recommend in Tijuana/Mexico as better alternatives?