Hey @countryman

There's a lot of hypocrites here. They'll probably say something about how they only like *legal* immigrants... but they're totally full of shit because the kind of immigrants who are willing to work a greasy pole tend to be the illegal variety. I'm sure there are exceptions, but that's the general rule. In general most people turn a blind eye whenever it suits them. If most immigrant meat-packers and gardeners are illegal, then most immigrant sex-workers are probably illegal, too. It's a cash-only job in a legal gray area, so dancing seems tailor-made for illegal immigrants.

If we reform our immigration laws so that only "productive" members of society are allowed in, trust me, most immigrants would look a lot more like David Beckham and Sergey Brin, and a lot less like someone who's willing to do extras in a VIP room.

Also, the people here who want zero-tolerance for illegal immigrants wouldn't be happy with a zero-tolerance policy for most other crimes and violations. (Soliciting, for example.)

Personally, I wouldn't grant citizenship, but I'm fine with amnesty. As a whole, I think immigrants tend to make the country a better place and I would be happy if we would allow the market to set the actual number of immigrants rather than some government bureaucrats and politicians.