So Huntsman needs to find his underground wilderness club that caters to wolves and enables front room deep leg humping.
I need my fantasy strip club where all in the front room, I will approach the man who will Provide me Deep Bra Stuffing (DBS) of $100 bills, instead of buying dances, all in the front room. And I will wake up every morning with direct deposits.
Anyone else have other systems? Cause after all, buying dances is for chumps ;)
My system is a secret that I will demonstrate in person if you ever make it up to the Cleveland Oh. area. :D
Deep bra stuffing should definitely lead to a front room makeout session absolutely brilliant. What do you think sjg good enough for your organization?
I have a few of my own methods to determine if the dancer is my type.
These techniques are front room friendly.
I watch a dancer as I take my leather belt off. If her nipples perk up - and she rubs her clit - she’s ready. If she runs her fingers across her throat - she’s my kind of girl!
I’ll pull a black rubber glove from my pocket - and pull it over my hand. If the dancer starts sweating and her pussy drips - when she hears the snap of the rubber on my skin - I know she’s ready for fist training.
If a dancers labia keep falling out of her panties - that’s a good sign. If her labia unfurl and stick to the stage - she’s a keeper!
Hopefully I’m not being too graphic...
The nicespice way sounds great to me.
Oil and vibrator shows at a special stage, customer participation, likely followed by arriba, also good.
SJG
I would be a little bit shy of the Deep Bra Shove, cause money paper can be abrasive. Usually that way of transferring money is just a gimmick for places where you cannot really touch.
Perfectly happy to hand the money to her, then proceed with talk and an escalating feel up and a continual money flow, likely bra removal, and our makeout session beginning standing up, and probably continuing though booth sitting and FIV, and then OTC 'till next morning, and then regular photo modelling sessions after.
SJG
DNM sounds amazing.
@TheeOSU Oh really? ;)
@cashman Lol, not a problem.
Vibrator shows? Sounds like a Portland thing.
I know from reading about Tijuana, but there vibrator shows are not the kind I would like. They use vibs way way to big and strong. Bullet vibes better.
SJG
DnM is a system I'm still working on. But it will involve an intense massage of the neck, shoulders, arms, entire back, ass, thighs, calves, and ankles. Any muscle tension and knots in any of these areas will get completely rubbed out to the point that nicespice will be completely relaxed and chill. She will feel more relaxed than ever before. And future massages by others won't feel the same anymore. Even at this early phase of development it will be amazing for her.
But do they like the large vibrator in Tijuana ;)
I approve of DNM!
And the thing is, I may only get one chance at DnM, so I'm definitely not going to cut any corners. I'm going to do the stuff to nicespice that I normally save for my faves for later. She's gonna get knots rubbed out that she forgot she had. Gonna give her goose bumps. Guaranteed.
It.is My fantasy to.cuddle with u
@nicespice I'll massage you so good you'll forget about your stripper mama. It'll make you slap your masseuse!
Spice bby you are mine.fuck any dude we can cuddle.together and eat fondue lololol
@nicespice I won't ever try to own you. I just want to make you feel relaxed and enjoy the moment. No pressure whatsoever. All you have to do is sit spoon in front of me and relax. I'll even bring you some dark chocolate edibles to munch on. Made with the finest weed in Oregon.
As we cuddle and chat I will be rubbing your shoulders while my thumbs are getting those knots that are between and even under both shoulder blades. Those thumbs will be working DEEP into those knots that I know are there. And if that doesn't give you goose bumps I'm gonna work my way down your back with intense finger pressure on both sides of your spine and along the muscle all the way down to the small of your back. Then I'll get both hands on each hip and press my thumbs into your sciatic nerve. It'll feel so good that you will feel it to your toes. And then not to be forgotten I will get give the backs of your calves a really good rub. I know they are going to be sore from wearing high heels so much.
And this is just the first 5 minutes and warm-up. And also remember there will be zero stripper mama drama.
Spice no.stripper.mama.drama with me I dont wanna be ur mama..i.jus wanna call u my baby lolol .and obvi I am not owning you as I have said numerous times everything is at ur discretion...obvi girls.talk like that a the time whenever another dude tries to speak to her girl.lol
U can pick him.if u want.i will miss calling u bby then :( but if that is what u want instead which i.think it is then obvi ur choice lol
Yeah, my leg humping thing hasn’t got me kicked out of every club in America yet, so I guess there is hope. Nicespice, do you think it will go better if I repeatedly post about it? Maybe it will catch on eventually.
I’d love to try the deep bra stuffing thing with you too, Nicespice. But having been raised by wolves, I never learned to use my opposing thumbs so I’d probably have to Stevie the money too you. Hope that’s ok.
@nicespice I forgot to mention I'll also pull your silky beautiful and fine hair to the side and press all my fingers like playing a piano all up and down the sides of your neck. You'll feel all the tension flow out of it that your head will feel elated and you'll likely let out a moan or two.
Nice Spice tell us who u pick plz lol im.curious
@nicespice I don't look at anything like a competition for you. It's simple with me: if you need any and all of those muscle aches and pains from dancing rubbed out, I'm your customer. You won't even need to tell me, I'll know exactly where you need it.
Nicole, I will gladly cuddle you and eat fondue. However, as a non extras dancer I can’t just “fuck any dude.” I’ll gladly have you as my madam though if I ever change my mind.
@Sirlap are you talking about the Gron brand? I love that stuff! You should totally come to Texas, I think Frontier has occasional double digit price flight deals between Portland and Austin. Plus, if you like blonds, then there’s many georgeous blonds to choose from in my Austin club. And I can give some general tips in person on how to negotiate dances for $20/song instead of other prices. :)
@Huntsman Haha, as long as you’re a good boy.
@nicespice yeah if you like gron edibles I would totally bring you some for my DnM. I don't do edibles much unless they are homemade by friends so I don't know the brands at the dispensary, but now that you mention it I have seen them. I smoke flower bud 99% of the time. During my DnM I would be high as fuck on some 'Dirty Girl'.
Getting to Texas would be tough for me and not likely. But absolutely I would love to club there precisely because of the beautiful blondes and of course to get my DnM fantasy fulfilled. Austin is the one Texas city I would actually like to visit. Maybe some day...
More likely I think would be for you to take a working vacation to Portland. And if you worked on a weekday early evening or midday on a weekend I would probably be able to see you. And absolutely I would share any information on Portland clubs and overall scene with you. You would do well at any club out here but there are hot ones and not ones.
It may always remain a fantasy, but I look forward to a DnM sometime. And so should you...
Excellent discussion! Definitely learning from reading SirLDAlot’s technique. Massages in the front room can get things working.
@Cashman1234 I'm sorry but I can't share my best techniques. LOL they are my trade secrets. Proprietary information. I'm just teasing nicespice with my warm up stuff so she wants my full aresenal in person. And she will get it good. Real good.
But absolutely massaging is one of my go to moves. Lately my ATF DS has been on a vacation and so I have explored other clubs and sampled other strippers and every one of them had no issues with me giving them a massage. I have also pulled it off with strippers on random visits in other cities.
And once they get a taste of my massages they crave them. LMAO my faves will "assume the position" almost immediately when they come up to me. And my ATF DS has told me LOL she I always disappointed in her massages from an actual therapist now because I do it better. All my faves now can't wait for me to come see them for it.
In fact I just secured another fave from it - a fucking perfect 10 22yr old hottie. She was a mess of knots because she said she has never been given a proper massage and I worked them out good. LOL she couldn't even talk much and by the end it looked as if she had an orgasm because she had an afterglow and was kind of out of it from being super relaxed. She said it was the best massage ever and I told her that's just the beginning.
And yes it is wonderful to have a stripper's ass in my crotch with both cheeks squeezing the underside of my hard cock as it sits perfectly in between them. And then when I massage her lower back and ass it stimulates my hard cock more and feels so fucking good. As good if not better than a lap dance grind. Seriously it is win-win - she gets her aches and pains from work rubbed away and I get a rock hard boner before dances.
SirLDAlot - I’ve learned quite a bit already. Thanks! Your posts offer great insights.
I’m not asking for you to give up your secrets. Just saying thanks for posting your insights!
@Cash no prob I am still just teasing nicespice about more to come. Glad I can help.
And LOL I thoroughly enjoy your graphic posts. They may be demented as fuck but they leave an impressionable mental image. LMFAO at long labia. Roast beef!!!
Thanks SirLDAlot! I try my best to be demented - and graphic.
I’m sure NiceSpice would enjoy your massages - and edibles!
So do you grow your stuff yourself, or do you use the dispensary?
Homemade edibles sound amazing.
@Cashman LOL your fantasies are like the porn I stumble across and cannot "un-see". I've always been a vanilla guy when it comes to sex and porn IRL (I just like to fuck the shit out of a hot woman straight up) but LMAO I enjoy living vicariously through the mind of a demented monger. Makes me feel "normal" LOL.
I'm going to make sure nicespice remembers my DnM. LMAO so good she's going to have to train her regulars in Texas to do better!
@nicespice I always buy all my weed or partake in others sharing. Growing and cooking with it is possibly a retirement hobby only.
Years before it became legal out here I have been friends with those closely connected with the growing and dealing and processing if it. Just locals that know how to do it. Old Portland hippie types. My wife and I often go to parties that are completely for smoking, eating, and even drinking marijuana products. I've had green beer, cheesecake, cookies, brownies, butter, sweet potatoes, and various other edibles at these parties. And yeah all the edibles are great. As good and some better than the retail stuff. And in top of it the smoke is the best shit in the state. It's what the growers smoke and keep for themselves.
The prelude to my DnM of course is watching a nicespice stage set. I have never seen her dance IRL so this truly is fantasy, but being half Filipina and that she knocked guys out at night clubs I'm going to bet that she has some good if not mad skillz moves. So going with that I'll get to admire her in all her glory throughout her set and enjoy and take in every second of it. And OMFG I cannot (FINALLY) wait to see those perfectly perky all natural tits (without fucking pasties ruining the view) up close and in person. Ever since I studied her avatar I have lusted after them and to see them in person. Filipinas don't have boobs such as hers. At least not many of them. Also I am just as eager to see her face and ass. I have imagined both to be as good as her boobs which are already top tier. As I take her in from watching I'll have a huge boner even before the DnM starts.
Seems like a really fun party, yum.
I’ve heard Portland is famous for being big with stage stuff, but aside from doing a couple of quick stuff on the pole, I’m not that big on the athletic aspect. Maybe one day though I’ll take up pole as a hobby though.
I use that time more to engage the audience. And make good eye contact with everyone who is staring at me.
Stage tippers tend to get some fun personal attention from me though.
As for ass...hmm maybe I’ll upload another picture of myself at some point. I’m not in a rush though :p
The typical Portland neighborhood clubs do not have over the top stage sets. Most clubs the stage is small and the pole is short so actually it is more floor dance and getting personally close to tippers oriented but again this is a generalization. I think the Kit Kat Klub is supposed to be a show club but I have never been there. Also I have seen tremendously wonderful individual show type dances including incredible pole stuff at SinRock, Devil's Point, and the Golden Dragon. I'm talking the kind of show that transcends the sexual part because it is pure artistic beauty and raw athleticism. But this is the exception and not the norm which is again is back to basics with usually a small pole and stage. What I would say about Portland is that the dance standards and overall quality is high here. Strippers take pride in it because it can generate a good part of total take home pay on any given night. It's just not as consistent because dances are so ubiquitous and mileage is good. As long as a dancer had some moves and a sense of rhythm she will do fine here but if she really wants to stand out she better bring her A game.
SirLap and NiceSpice should have Coffee and Cake.
^^^i think they are planning to go to church tomorrow so it might work well. Not sure if Nicole will be attending or not.
^ @Huntsman you and Nicole are the ring-bearer and flower girl, respectively.
And during the ceremony I'm going to have to wear my armor because I may LDK just as I say "I do".
^^^ I would be happy to attend but I don’t want to wreck Cashman’s chance to be the first to meet Nicole here, at least by Skype.
^ @Cashman1234 is my best man! He's master of bachelor party logistics.
Lol I know u can't just fuck any dude@ spice..obvi i was joking despite wishing I could have been serious when saying that.
Lol @when u tell spice she is ur stripper bby and then other dudes try to steal her..gtfo #first world probz #nicole1994probz
Hah speaking of Church, I will be meeting with my Dad in a couple of hours to go to mass.
...Before heading out to work and being a harlot. Oops.
Nicole, I haven't been able to see you yet, you tease.
@nicespice do you have any all white outfits and can you describe them? Just curious. :)
IDK if anyone remembers I asked Nicole if she was a lesbian, she refused to say, now she’s after nicespiceas if she is. lol
Huntsman - I’m expecting a full report about Nicole’s hot body - and her sexy booty hanging out of a sweet pair of daisy dukes!
I’ve had daunting challenges before - but a bachelor party for a bunch of fellow mongers will be a definite challenge - lol!
Yes, I have a lace white bikini top held together with black string paired with a white thong.
^ ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@nicespice I think a white outfit would be most appropriate for my DnM fantasy fulfillment with you because I have never been with a mestiza stripper before. I have been with half pinay and half other Asian before but never half white and half pinay. So I want the "innocence" of white on your banging body. Sexy as fuck.
And of course in my DnM fantasy Nicole will be at a table way in the back watching me tip you during your entire stage set. And as you sit in front of me for the first time I will discreetly put my hands on the back of your calves and squeeze and rub them as we chat and introduce ourselves face to face for the first time. You'll feel my strong and confident hands kneading and caressing those calf muscles from the wide part all the way down to your Achilles heel where I know you will feel immediate tension relief. But it will be just a fleeting moment, likely the first of many future teases between us. A prelude to a prelude, if you will. Besides there will likely now be a line up of PLs going ga-ga over you at the stage and I wouldn't want to hog you up there when we will be spooning together soon enough.
The entire time, Nicole is sitting back observing and just as she sees me and getting all jelly because I'm touching and rubbing your legs and getting some attention from you, my wingman for the evening Huntsman takes Nicole for a stripper and starts pulling his DLH game on her.
...um no i won't get jealous cuz like i said spice can. Obvi choose who she will take turns with and also bc i will.spend time with spice as well cuz she said i.could..
Umm yes because I said "in MY DnM fantasy" obviously.
nicespice, what they seem to use as a vibrator at the TJ HK bar, as demoed in promo videos and talked about on TJA, is not really a vibrator. It is a power saw, like the ones made by Makita. Long fast strokes, and with a great deal of motor power. More like a power driven pumping machine.
Like this, but with a plastic cock like thing attached to it.
To me it looks excessive and potentially dangerous.
To me the idea is girls getting oiled up and using bullet vibes on each other externally, probably with open tongue kissing too. Then they either move to internal vibes, or they let customers take over.
But part of the idea of course is that after the customer takes the girl arriba, and probably spends some real time with her too. The show in the main room helps to get them both loosened up.
SJG
Symbolic Dimensions of the Gnostic Mass carid.com
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Just a follow up comment for our OP, nicespice.
Talked a bit about front room makeout sessions.
But in some clubs they don't do FS-ITC. In some clubs front room makeout sessions would be very rare.
So what can a guy do? Dry humping? BJ?
Well, lots of places like that in San Francisco. Where as once lap dancing was all front room, and they could potentially do anything except FS, since ownership has been consolidated and the places are 'wanna dance' clip joints, selling more fantasy than delivery.
FS might not be totally unattainable, but the pricing is so high and the time limit so tight, that in practice is is more of a fantasy.
So what can a guy do?
I have found that what works is DATYing dancers. That always goes over well, they are very responsive and clearly deeply effected by it. It also shows them that I am not focused on my own ejaculation, I am focused on getting under her skin. My load, it is being saved.
But also know that even in DV SF, girls have recited to me the 'I don't kiss' speech, only to be demonstrably reversing themselves not too much further along.
Basically it comes down to not treating them like prostitutes, or like vending machines, or ever acting like money motivates them, or like they sell sex or sex acts. I never treat them that way.
But no, those kinds of clubs will never be the type I really like. Those would be of our Latina underground, girls who do not look to the house rules for protection, the only rules they wish to follow are their own. And they want to be lining up all the OTC they can, as well as doing any FS-ITC or in their mini-van in the parking lot which they can. And makeout sessions are just a part of their nature. No reason they would ever want to decline this.
SJG
Symbolic Dimensions of the Gnostic Mass, very good! youtube.com
So in the above types of no FS clip joint, DFKing made very difficult, types of clubs, if a guy is ready to select a girl and approach her and wants to be waking up with her in the mornings and continuing to see her regularly, he should have all the options figured out. Places to take her, safe date, standard date, motel or home, everything.
But also, DATYing her is a great way to play the ITC portion of the meeting. It leaves them very well primed for the fuckings which await.
SJG
SJG - So we already knew you have never DFKed with a stripper. Otherwise you would have said so ages ago. But your admission from the last post is interesting. You have seen dancers who have stated they won't kiss you but then have seen them kiss other guys. This means they are super creeped out by you buddy...
^^^^^^ Buddy, and I say this very loosely, you are the creep. You are still trying to use baiting with bull shit to get into the privacy of my f2f life.
Enjoy yourself asshole: img1.etsystatic.com
SJG
SJG - I have no interest in your personal life other than the fact that I feel truly genuinely sorry for you. Something is seriously wrong with you. Would you even deny it? A normal person doesn't keep coming back somewhere that they are belittled and the constant butt of jokes. There is also something wrong with the way that you view women. You comments about the underground mexican clubs show that you have a "free use" sexual fetish. Which is totally fine and cool. Be into that all you want. But the fact that you are into "free use" as a fetish but then claim to want to treat civilians the same way is pretty messed up.
Past that I do think you have a real firewall, privacy wall, or whatever you want to call it. But it isn't stopping us from seeing who you really are. You type enough diatribe that we can see you for you who are. In actuality your firewall is what separates you from seeing how the rest of the world views you.
PaulDrake unfortunately I think TUSCL is san_jose_creep's escape from his own pathetic life and he comes here because it is all he has to live in a fantasy and get away from things for a while. He is destitute and I'm pretty sure he's homeless. He ruined his whole life, ironically by being a strip club and AMP monger. So now his only escape is but a few hours on public internet every day and during those precious hours, through TUSCL, he gets to live in his fantasy land of getting front room DFK with strippers until it is time for his pants to come down in the back room or wearing out a matress with her OTC. He really needs this and TUSCL. So he's never going to go away.
I see him as the village idiot of TUSCL. He's off his rocker batshit crazy and he'll forever be blathering in the middle of the town square because it's all he's got. There's nowhere for him to go.
Also no amount of logic will sway his mind.
PaulDrake, stop trolling me you fucking asshole.
SJG
Lately I've been fantasizing about DnM or Deep nicespice Massaging.