I signed up 4 times, once only once did I get my full month. 3 times I got suspended for no reason. 89 .99 x 3 is just about 300 bucks for nothing. I did meet 3 girls, 2 were fun, one robbed me. Live and learn.
He's in a part of the country where SA is not as easy to navigate--not saying it can't be done but I know from first hand experience it doesn't seem to work as well from NYC -north. Too much GPS going on.
On the other hand I think you need to approach SA the way women do about dancing at the club.....yes you can hit a bd night or nights but it only takes one guy who is willing to spend ( or in this case a SB willing to meet up and be what you are looking for) to make it worth your time and money.
From what I’ve heard, most serious sugar babies prefer to meet someone in person than online. Seeking arrangement attracts more amateurs who (on the plus side for you) may undercharge compared to how much time they provide or (on the negative) may think that asking for a 10k/month allowance without sex is a reasonable demand.
Massachusetts is very different culturally than almost anywhere else in the country. Similar to VA in some respects, it is a place where lingering puritanical influences and an active femi-nazi element have found common ground with respect to sex services, which are much maligned and often persecuted in that state.
Don't get me wrong, you'll find few places easier than Boston to hit the bars and find a piece of ass for the night, but in their minds they are only whores if they are paid for it. I have no doubt that these inconsistencies in thought processes make SA in MA a confusing place to operate. Knowing the culture the way I do, you likely need to bend over backwards to show the girls that you don't think of them as whores, even though they ultimately take money and fuck.
My membership ended today and I did not renew. Was a member since January. First few meets were great, but the law of averages caught up with me. Met about 10 girls in that timespan, many of them were one time deals during business travel, and we both knew that. As they say on SA, there are many types of arrangements, and truth is most guys and many girls on there are looking for short-term (ie. one night) arrangements. But the bad: had a crazy one try to befriend me on facebook. Had a falling out with a hot blonde in LA that turned ugly via text. And worst of all, got rinsed for 2 grand, which actually was a long term (4 months) arrangement, but we never got to mutually beneficial. I know, my mistake! The few that were longer term (more than one time) were all constantly asking for more money. My car is broke ... my rent is due ... need some help paying off debt .... it just never ends. So I'm done. Back to stripclubs and hopefully the occasional OTC action if I can find it. I do have a SA arranged date setup with a super hot blonde stripper in Vegas in 2 weeks. We've been facetiming almost every day, and she's amazing. I'm just worried we haven't talked about the cost yet .... could be WAY out of my league, oh well!
I should add one thing that bit me time after time again. No matter how pretty the face ... if they don't have any full body shots, or are hiding the waist area in shots, they are going to be (significantly) overweight versus your expectation. In my last 6 months, that was 100% true. At least with strippers OTC, you kind of know what you're gonna get ;-)
I'm curious what you were accused of to get suspended. I basically never discuss sex or money via the SA messaging system, always take it to text after a little get-acquainted chatting.
I've been doing it for 2 months, I've interviewed 6 girls, "auditioned" 4, 2 of whom I've continued to see. The sex in each instance has been far better than any other commercial sexual experience I've had. The most obvious reason for this is that the girls I've met all have another source of income, so they can afford to be lower-volume than all but the most expensive pros. As a result, they still respond to getting fucked like normal women, not in the detached, shell-shocked manner of an equivalently priced ($300-500) escort.
Also, in the best cases SA allows a more natural male-female dynamic than is usually possible in other parts of the sex industry, by facilitating a narrative that women find sexy rather than disgusting. "I have an arrangement with a successful, generous man," is a much sexier story line for a woman than, "I'm a prostitute/escort/stripper who allows losers who have to pay for sex to use my body," even if, in reality, both are describing the same thing (man & woman meet, he fucks her in a hotel room, she goes home with a few hundred more dollars than she had before). Because "successful" for them is like "hot" for us. When it works (which is admittedly infrequent, I sent initial messages to ~200 girls to get 2 regulars I really like) SA relationships can break the cycle of mutual contempt epitomized by the worst of SW v. TUSCL.
-->"I'm curious what you were accused of to get suspended. I basically never discuss sex or money via the SA messaging system, always take it to text after a little get-acquainted chatting."
SA won't tell you why you were suspended. Somebody reported him for some reason or other, and/or whatever fraud protection software they're using keeps getting triggered.
I *do* discuss sex and money via the SA messaging system -- although since FOSTA have admittedly gotten more subtle about it and like you have increasingly been moving it to text instead -- and I've been suspended 0 times. If I'd been suspended multiple times, I'd be really closely looking at my behavior.
-->"And worst of all, got rinsed for 2 grand, which actually was a long term (4 months) arrangement, but we never got to mutually beneficial. I know, my mistake!"
Ouch! Sorry about that! I have to admit I'm surprised a tuscler could get rinsed like that. I understand a regular shmo getting taken for a ride, but most tusclers are battle-hardened through stripper skirmishes -- hell, most of the guys here refuse to pay $20 in advance for a lapdance, much less thousands in advance...
I've actually shied away from conversations when the girl brought up money or sex first. For one thing it is the sign of a pro or a SA Troll and I tend to stay away from both if I can.
Second I am looking to set a meeting, nothing more, nothing less from an initial site contact. You'll see a lot of women complain about guys wanting to waste time going back and forth.....from my own experience it is the other way around.
I've never been suspended in the five plus years I have been on ( off and on)
As for getting fleeced. I've been dinged once but it was an odd set of circumstances and the amount was in the hundreds, not the thousands.
Haha, yeah I was skeptical, too, but then I tried it and I'm really glad that I did. Hat tip to RandomMember for finally convincing me.
Read justaguy79's comments above, they are exactly accurate. Once you try it a few times you'll see what he means. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I have about as much luck getting a stripper wet and turned on as I would building a rocket to go to the fucking moon. But SA girls actually *enjoy* this stuff. They cum buckets. Some of them even squirt. And several of them are already offering to fuck me for free, basically on demand. It's been a while since my membership expired and I'm *still* getting texts from girls I've all but forgotten about. Seriously, just try it once. All you have to lose is $90. Better than a stripper AND better than a girlfriend. (But don't be too explicit in your messages or else your account will be banned, like the OP. I know a few girls who've been banned for explicit language, too.)
SA will accept reports on users for things said over non-SA messaging apps (people will send in screen shots), so moving to text or Kik isn't a sure fire cure if you're being creepy or rude.
Took me 9 months and 4 tries to find right SR, but it's been worth it. Going strong almost a year. I'm more open to different body types than most of the guys here, so I found someone who is happy with me and my body type, so she's not just having sex with me for the money. She likes women, too, so I still get the occasional variety when we go to SCs, invite a 3rd to join us, or go to a swingers club.
So, set your expectations appropriately, and you might be surprised with what you are able to "arrange".
BHF--I can't imagine anyone being more skeptical than I was since I am a cynic at heart about most things in life, but the first girl I met one week after joining the site was a Eurasian spinner type that I saw every other week for six months.
The only reason she was on the site had to do with student loans. She moved otherwise it would have gone on longer.
Second girl was a young red head from a nearby college. Also her last semester in school. ( it took her an extra half year to finish school so she needed money) Agan I couldn't ask for a better match. Her sex drive was incredible. Not once with either of these two did they ever ask for extra money or have a timer/clock. It was a flat rate for as long as I wanted to stay.
After the first two I was sold on the concept and have been using the site ever since.
'Knowing the culture the way I do, you likely need to bend over backwards to show the girls that you don't think of them as whores, even though they ultimately take money and fuck.'
This is the case with any girl working at a strip club you will always get better service if you treat them like what they are, regular women willing to have sex to have money to make ends meet or regular women who are greedy/matierialistic because theyve never had anything before.
I once had a girl have sex for a jacket from Macy's, her WHOLE 24 life she had only ever shopped at Foreman mills and other stores like that. It was only $90, If you can start attaching the money to items women get emotional because no one has EVER bought them anything like that before *some women, not all*
There are do-gooders, scorned wives, thumpers and LE on SA just like there is / was on all related sites. They bait you then report you and it works both ways . Also , big mouth " I know a secret so I am important " clowns help ruin it too by posted crap on sites like USASG - Oh, that's ****** , she worked for such and such agency for years . SA reads and hears that stuff too. They have to protect themselves so pay attention and ban users on both sides.
Check out one of the shakedown sites like Home wreckers or whatever that BS site calls itself . Half the women they have listed on there are ones they found on SA.
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OP... where are you located?
On the other hand I think you need to approach SA the way women do about dancing at the club.....yes you can hit a bd night or nights but it only takes one guy who is willing to spend ( or in this case a SB willing to meet up and be what you are looking for) to make it worth your time and money.
Don't get me wrong, you'll find few places easier than Boston to hit the bars and find a piece of ass for the night, but in their minds they are only whores if they are paid for it. I have no doubt that these inconsistencies in thought processes make SA in MA a confusing place to operate. Knowing the culture the way I do, you likely need to bend over backwards to show the girls that you don't think of them as whores, even though they ultimately take money and fuck.
I've been doing it for 2 months, I've interviewed 6 girls, "auditioned" 4, 2 of whom I've continued to see. The sex in each instance has been far better than any other commercial sexual experience I've had. The most obvious reason for this is that the girls I've met all have another source of income, so they can afford to be lower-volume than all but the most expensive pros. As a result, they still respond to getting fucked like normal women, not in the detached, shell-shocked manner of an equivalently priced ($300-500) escort.
Also, in the best cases SA allows a more natural male-female dynamic than is usually possible in other parts of the sex industry, by facilitating a narrative that women find sexy rather than disgusting. "I have an arrangement with a successful, generous man," is a much sexier story line for a woman than, "I'm a prostitute/escort/stripper who allows losers who have to pay for sex to use my body," even if, in reality, both are describing the same thing (man & woman meet, he fucks her in a hotel room, she goes home with a few hundred more dollars than she had before). Because "successful" for them is like "hot" for us. When it works (which is admittedly infrequent, I sent initial messages to ~200 girls to get 2 regulars I really like) SA relationships can break the cycle of mutual contempt epitomized by the worst of SW v. TUSCL.
SA won't tell you why you were suspended. Somebody reported him for some reason or other, and/or whatever fraud protection software they're using keeps getting triggered.
I *do* discuss sex and money via the SA messaging system -- although since FOSTA have admittedly gotten more subtle about it and like you have increasingly been moving it to text instead -- and I've been suspended 0 times. If I'd been suspended multiple times, I'd be really closely looking at my behavior.
Ouch! Sorry about that! I have to admit I'm surprised a tuscler could get rinsed like that. I understand a regular shmo getting taken for a ride, but most tusclers are battle-hardened through stripper skirmishes -- hell, most of the guys here refuse to pay $20 in advance for a lapdance, much less thousands in advance...
Second I am looking to set a meeting, nothing more, nothing less from an initial site contact. You'll see a lot of women complain about guys wanting to waste time going back and forth.....from my own experience it is the other way around.
I've never been suspended in the five plus years I have been on ( off and on)
As for getting fleeced. I've been dinged once but it was an odd set of circumstances and the amount was in the hundreds, not the thousands.
Haha, yeah I was skeptical, too, but then I tried it and I'm really glad that I did. Hat tip to RandomMember for finally convincing me.
Read justaguy79's comments above, they are exactly accurate. Once you try it a few times you'll see what he means. I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I have about as much luck getting a stripper wet and turned on as I would building a rocket to go to the fucking moon. But SA girls actually *enjoy* this stuff. They cum buckets. Some of them even squirt. And several of them are already offering to fuck me for free, basically on demand. It's been a while since my membership expired and I'm *still* getting texts from girls I've all but forgotten about. Seriously, just try it once. All you have to lose is $90. Better than a stripper AND better than a girlfriend. (But don't be too explicit in your messages or else your account will be banned, like the OP. I know a few girls who've been banned for explicit language, too.)
Took me 9 months and 4 tries to find right SR, but it's been worth it. Going strong almost a year. I'm more open to different body types than most of the guys here, so I found someone who is happy with me and my body type, so she's not just having sex with me for the money. She likes women, too, so I still get the occasional variety when we go to SCs, invite a 3rd to join us, or go to a swingers club.
So, set your expectations appropriately, and you might be surprised with what you are able to "arrange".
The only reason she was on the site had to do with student loans. She moved otherwise it would have gone on longer.
Second girl was a young red head from a nearby college. Also her last semester in school. ( it took her an extra half year to finish school so she needed money) Agan I couldn't ask for a better match. Her sex drive was incredible. Not once with either of these two did they ever ask for extra money or have a timer/clock. It was a flat rate for as long as I wanted to stay.
After the first two I was sold on the concept and have been using the site ever since.
This is the case with any girl working at a strip club you will always get better service if you treat them like what they are, regular women willing to have sex to have money to make ends meet or regular women who are greedy/matierialistic because theyve never had anything before.
I once had a girl have sex for a jacket from Macy's, her WHOLE 24 life she had only ever shopped at Foreman mills and other stores like that. It was only $90, If you can start attaching the money to items women get emotional because no one has EVER bought them anything like that before *some women, not all*
Check out one of the shakedown sites like Home wreckers or whatever that BS site calls itself . Half the women they have listed on there are ones they found on SA.