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I know the answers will vary, but i was just curious if any of u had an ATF just based on sexual chemistry alone? Lol.
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Then I met my all time favorite dancer at a club about 30 miles from my home.
I hadn't realized how impersonal sex with escorts had become. Once this dancer and I hooked up it was like a whole new wonderland. She physically is and has been a 9+ in my book. But we also have fun. She understands my wants and wishes (which are sometimes a little bit unusual). I understand her motivations and I usually can anticipate her needs. One night about 5 years ago we snuggled in bed after sex and she said, "Damn. I wish you were 30 years younger". Alas I am exactly 40 years her senior.
To answer the question: Initially there was great sexual chemistry, however the personal relationship which developed only made it better. She now lives with me and we've had a relationship for almost nine years.
But she needs to have a fresh start in life from several perspectives so we're planning her move out of state and discussing whether it makes sense to maintain contact.
Her looks no longer make any difference at all. It’s *all* about the personality and chemistry now.
Will you give me a BBBJCIM?
For example several years ago I had a CF that was a true 10 if I ever saw one. Hottest as fuck stripper ever and I have seen many. But she suffered from GPS so much her service to value was about an 8 max. Also her personality was a 7 max. Our sexual chemistry was 9+ mainly because she was so damn hot. But because she didn't check 9+ on all categories I never called her an ATF.
Also right now I have a backup CF (to my ATF DS) that gives me 10 service and is a 10 personality but she is an 8+ in looks which again keeps her just out of ATF status.
To me I can't decouple looks/body and sexual chemistry. And LMAO I should hope all other PLs in the club consider my ATF at best a 7 and other strippers 8+. LOL more for me!
I’ve met a few girls who are physically hotter than her, but none yet match her sheer exuberant joy in sex.
Since most of the dancers that know me more than just in passing, know I worked in the bar/disco/strip club scene years ago their approach to me is different than the average PL. I don't go to a SC to get laid or pay for sex, it's a diversion and at times a cheap form of therapy. The average woman in her sexual prime is more fun in bed than a 20 yo stripper IMO. No matter how crappy a day or week I've had a work, there is always a sob story at a SC to reinforce the fact that I have had a pretty damn good life.
" If you ever look back on a stripper that rocked your world better than any other to date and was hot as fuck she could be considered an ATF." a true PL statement. I have no emotional involvement and neither do they so the CF/ATF seems like unicorns and rainbows to me. I don't believe in mixing fantasy and reality. If all it takes is a pussy like Sunshine's (name that movie) to rock ones world, ones world is a small place to live.
I hope you find this reply as condescending as I found yours
Fucking loser.
To me from your response it seems you look down on having an ATF because you assume there has to be some emotional involvement and it seems you thought that is what I meant by 'rocked your world'. To clarify, I didn't mean that at all. It simply meant a stripper provided you with whatever service or therapy or entertainment that you desire better than any other stripper in the past. And if you went back to her in concept it is really no different than a guy with a fave going back to his because her service (whatever the PL defines it to be) to both of you is/was better than any other recent strippers. It was so good you went back for more. That's all a fave really is to me. A stripper that a PL sees more often than others. The reasons why are individually defined.
Also I never mix fantasy and reality either. Going to a strip club is an enjoying escape from reality to me.
Again if any of this was condescending I apologize. Simple discussion with a PL that may have a different perspective than mine is my only intent.
To each their own.
- she's an all natural 8+
- before we get dances she is a total slut and tease as we sit at a table or the bar enough to give me a constant boner from her teasing and stroking it anywhere from 30 min to an hour
- when we go get dances she is a continuation of the ultimate slut and offers high mileage and intentionally wants me to LDK in 2-4 songs
- as I LDK she senses it and does things like rub my nuts in the process or stick shifts me OTP in order to make the LDK as enjoyable as possible
- after I am done LDKing and the song is not over she continues to stimulate my LDKed dick and balls and the whole time still acting like the ultimate slut
This is my definition of being provided a 9+ service fantasy for a couple not hours. Emotions need not be involved. But that's just me.
Yep, I'm hooked!
Everyone has one though many don't refer to her as such and many might not even remember her. This is likely among the variety seekers of which I am pretty sure Papi is one.
I do not believe there is a right or wrong approach to having or not having an ATF, but just what is each PLs preference. And what works best for each individual.
For a dancer at one of my go to clubs to be an ATF all five of the above must align. I know from experience that finding a true ATF does not occur that often, at least for me. As I have said, I have had two or three over the past several years. However, when I do find one that becomes an ATF, my enjoyment and satisfaction are maximized, and the cost is often reduced over the long-run.
I currently have an ATF a club I frequent in FL. It has been a very nice relationship. It has been almost a year since we got acquainted. However, I do find that it seems like I do not like to have these last for a long as time as some have referenced on here, but who knows.
I have found that is takes time for me to find a regular dancer who may become an ATF. However, I am willing to invest the time to find that one dancer who may become an ATF. It may take several visits over many weeks to find one, but perseverance pays off. All this, of course, is IMHO, as I clearly respect others views on this subject.
Before you tell me I’m confusing ATFs with CFs, I am not I also have a few CFs as well.
Imagine a guy goes to a SC for the first time and that club is a dive. One of those dancers would be his favorite. It is likely she is no better than a 7. The next time he goes to a club, his favorite from that night will either take over the title or the original will keep it.
It's like a sport in which there is a defending champion until getting dethroned.
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