ATF

There was a time when I thought my ATF was such because of the sexual stuff alone. I now realize there was always more, from the very beginning, and that “more” gradually became the reason that she’s my ATF, and so much more, to this day.

I don't have an ATF anything, and don't 'get it' with this ATF and CF thing.

I'm with londonguy.....I just don't get the ATF/CF thing.

My time with my ATF on this site is legendary. Before I met her I travelled a lot and used escort services in every city I visited. Most were attractive, many were very accommodating, and the sex was frequent and varied. I had a few repeat escorts but most were one shot wonders. Then I met my all time favorite dancer at a club about 30 miles from my home. I hadn't realized how impersonal sex with escorts had become. Once this dancer and I hooked up it was like a whole new wonderland. She physically is and has been a 9+ in my book. But we also have fun. She understands my wants and wishes (which are sometimes a little bit unusual). I understand her motivations and I usually can anticipate her needs. One night about 5 years ago we snuggled in bed after sex and she said, "Damn. I wish you were 30 years younger". Alas I am exactly 40 years her senior. To answer the question: Initially there was great sexual chemistry, however the personal relationship which developed only made it better. She now lives with me and we've had a relationship for almost nine years. But she needs to have a fresh start in life from several perspectives so we're planning her move out of state and discussing whether it makes sense to maintain contact.

She doesnt have to b hot.as fuck to.be atf.if she is all time favorite she could be merely be so be being just pretty as opposed to.hot as fuck and have mad chemistry with him. Lol

ALL....time favorite........I'm not done yet.....so as of now it is still up for debate.

@SirLapdancealot: While I would rate my ATF AT least 9+ in all of those areas, most of you here would probably rate her about a 7 or 8 physically, and some would rate her even lower.

Her looks no longer make any difference at all. It’s all about the personality and chemistry now.

@Nicole Will you give me a BBBJCIM?

^ douchebag

I agree @sirdance

@Sirlapdancealot: For me, sexual chemistry is less about her looks, and more about how she thinks about sex. She’s not afraid or ashamed to enjoy sex, and she’s willing to do damned near anything that either of us want, at least once.

I’ve met a few girls who are physically hotter than her, but none yet match her sheer exuberant joy in sex.

LOL

SirLapdancealot --- there are dancers I like as people, some I find sexy, some not worth thinking about. Some I will chat with when it's slow and while I enjoy the conversation they know they are not my type physically and I will not get dances but I'm good for a drink and pleasant conversation. Others I get dances from because I enjoy the body, face or physical contact in the moment and at time might even enjoy their personalities..

Since most of the dancers that know me more than just in passing, know I worked in the bar/disco/strip club scene years ago their approach to me is different than the average PL. I don't go to a SC to get laid or pay for sex, it's a diversion and at times a cheap form of therapy. The average woman in her sexual prime is more fun in bed than a 20 yo stripper IMO. No matter how crappy a day or week I've had a work, there is always a sob story at a SC to reinforce the fact that I have had a pretty damn good life.

" If you ever look back on a stripper that rocked your world better than any other to date and was hot as fuck she could be considered an ATF." a true PL statement. I have no emotional involvement and neither do they so the CF/ATF seems like unicorns and rainbows to me. I don't believe in mixing fantasy and reality. If all it takes is a pussy like Sunshine's (name that movie) to rock ones world, ones world is a small place to live.

I hope you find this reply as condescending as I found yours

^ Damn, you wrote a lot to say nothing.

Fucking loser.

Coming for you flagooner, I consider that a compliment.

I don't look down on it, I just don't see the point of it personally,

To each their own.

There's an Asian dancer in a Phoenix club who drives me wild. Always fun, always happy, beautiful slim body, big enhanced tits, perfect ass, no kids, slim waist, rubs me just the right way every time. Amazing pull for me.

Yep, I'm hooked!

I’ve been atf free for over 14 years. It has its benefits and detriments. Overall, I’m happy to be free of any stripper obligations.

An ATF has more than sexual chemistry. She must be beautiful and sexy but also fun to be with and an interesting person. An ATF is allowed to be bat-shit crazy.

An ATF only has to hold the distinction of being your favorite of all the strippers you have ever experienced.

Everyone has one though many don't refer to her as such and many might not even remember her. This is likely among the variety seekers of which I am pretty sure Papi is one.

Absolutely on my end, however, it was the size of my wallet to them...

I have had a few dancers I would consider as ATFs. I agree with SirLapdancealot that a true ATF must be the total package: 9+ sexual chemistry, 9+ looks, 9+ personality, 9+ service, but for me also 9 intelligence or at least intelligent and rational communication is also a must. Now, don’t get me wrong if there is a 9-10 who is to my taste, intelligence and personality are not high on my list. As long as looks and 9+ service are good, I’m in, but this one will not become an ATF. I can see eyeofodin’s point of view, but I have found in my experience that with the right approach and attitude during an ATF relationship, it can be a very enjoyable and a continuously satisfying experience. But as eyeofodin clearly states it’s not for everyone. I do not believe there is a right or wrong approach to having or not having an ATF, but just what is each PLs preference. And what works best for each individual. For a dancer at one of my go to clubs to be an ATF all five of the above must align. I know from experience that finding a true ATF does not occur that often, at least for me. As I have said, I have had two or three over the past several years. However, when I do find one that becomes an ATF, my enjoyment and satisfaction are maximized, and the cost is often reduced over the long-run. I currently have an ATF a club I frequent in FL. It has been a very nice relationship. It has been almost a year since we got acquainted. However, I do find that it seems like I do not like to have these last for a long as time as some have referenced on here, but who knows. I have found that is takes time for me to find a regular dancer who may become an ATF. However, I am willing to invest the time to find that one dancer who may become an ATF. It may take several visits over many weeks to find one, but perseverance pays off. All this, of course, is IMHO, as I clearly respect others views on this subject.

Listen up and think about this like a business person, I don’t see why you can’t have multiple ATFs, just like I have multiple vendors for different aspects of my business, I also have a few ATFs that are my favorites for different reasons. I might go into one club because I like a certain girl, but there are other clubs that I go to, because I like another. Just like many strippers have certain guys that they prefer and hang out with, I have several that I do the same. Before you tell me I’m confusing ATFs with CFs, I am not I also have a few CFs as well.

Just think about what ATF stands for. By definition you can't have more than one. There is no minimum rating for looks, personality, etc...

Imagine a guy goes to a SC for the first time and that club is a dive. One of those dancers would be his favorite. It is likely she is no better than a 7. The next time he goes to a club, his favorite from that night will either take over the title or the original will keep it.

It's like a sport in which there is a defending champion until getting dethroned.

^your last statement about the champion being dethroned makes sense, but remember there is a MVP and not always on the championship team, plus there are top dogs in multiple categories.

^ That's why I didn't say boxing, LOL

IBF, WBA, WBC...

Stop patronizing me with circular arguments @flagooner ;)