FBI can still block websites, no matter where the servers are. Gov't controls hub routers and domain name servers. Always has been just like sending all your doings to the FBI.
"Too bad they didn’t have the foresight to move the servers to someplace that actually respects human rights."
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I have no idea how much trafficking occurs on Backpage? Is it 1 out of 10 or 1 out or 10,000,000? Would the public get the "real" stats in either case? Does reality even matter?
Oh, the allegations LE makes, that totally comes from them. They hit people with so many charges that they usually are terrified and so the plead guilty.
All it does is send the "escorts" back to walking the streets and trolling bars looking for clients again. Hopefully it will send a few back to the strip clubs.
Founder, it's not really about under age trafficking, that's how they sell their actions for violating free speech to the general public. When it comes down to it, if the government was able to collect taxes from the services offered on BP they would have no issue with it. This was just another example of the government systematically tearing down any type of business that is cash based. They pushed credit cards and debit on us to control what we can buy. I'm seeing more and more businesses that actually don't take cash anymore. The banking system (that remember is backed by the Federal Reserve) prefers "digital" money, and sooner than later all money will be "digital" and therefore won't need any real backing. It's all a part of the new world order, but cannot be accomplished as long as people still use cash. We use cards to buy gas, groceries, clothes, etc.; pay our mortgage, electric bill, and cable on line, but use cash for "less than socially acceptable things. So they can eventually justify the elimination of cash to cartel such actions, and to the general public they just go along with it. Just think about it everyone
And I believe you that you do, government was for now just going after the low hanging fruit. It's just a systematic elimination of our rights, one by one.
Social Media and sites like backpage will migrate to decentralized versions. For example one social media that has been created is called Switter - sign up at https://switter.at - Switter stands for sweeter twitter. We need a new backpage that has no central servers and runs on every user node....like bitcoin that the government can't control.
If Backpage remains shut down, I wonder what effects this will have (if any) on strip clubs. Will escorts try dancing in order to gain otc customers? In some instances, escorts were dancers first. We may have an inverse of this. Also, will escort customers try strip clubs to get their needs met (assuming they are in an area that is extras friendly)? Time will tell.
They just need to stop eating-shit and not criminalize P4P b/w consenting-adults - that way you're not affecting the 99%+ of consenting P4Pers in order to "supposedly save" the 1%- of traffic-victims - def stop trafficking, but don't throw out the baby and everything else w/ the bath-water.
You know, even if TUSCL blinks out of existence tonight, I wouldn't join SJG's crazy-pants forum.
I will suggest that now is a good time to acquaint yourself with a good VPN service and/or the TOR Project (https://www.torproject.org/). While these tools are good security/privacy measures for guys with our particular hobbies, you can also set yourself up to appear as if you're surfing from outside the U.S. So, any site blocking U.S. traffic opens up wide.
Someone with the skills with Tor and the blockchain tech could make a killing opening up a new Backpage like site and crypto for payment. Dammit why a don't have the knowledge to do that and b loose morals
^^^ good theory but Backpage hookers that are using their $45 pre-paid Android phone to post ads probably aren't savvy enough to go running through TOR. It's kinda shocking how many people out there don't even own a computer anymore.
Low-end, high-volume Backpage escorts will struggle the most. They aren't tech savvy or particularly smart (on average...). It's possible that most of them will wind up at dive strip clubs or as streetwalkers.
The mid- to high-end escorts will be fine. Especially the independents. They're relatively clever and entrepreneurial. They'll figure out where their customers are hanging out outside of FOSTA's reach and just go there.
It's not a bad idea... but... this message board represents a small fraction of TUSCL users. There's a ton of users who only read and post reviews. For such a restriction to mean anything, it's needs to come from founder.
Technically, both Tinder and SA are dating sites. I could see SA going down before Tinder, because there's more of a money factor.
But I see your point. These are the problems that arise when you take a legal act between consenting adults and make it arbitrarily illegal under certain circumstances (payment).
I was wondering what was happening. Starting to see a few on Adult Friend Finder. They just kind of hint hint with the profiles. Unemployment is going up the next quarter. by the way TOR has been owned for years now.
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FBI can still block websites, no matter where the servers are. Gov't controls hub routers and domain name servers. Always has been just like sending all your doings to the FBI.
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I have no idea how much trafficking occurs on Backpage? Is it 1 out of 10 or 1 out or 10,000,000? Would the public get the "real" stats in either case? Does reality even matter?
Same with RedBook!
SJG
If there is under age trafficking going on here I will help the FBI.
We review strip clubs. They're legal.
After reading that article, sounds like the guy that ran Backpage facilitated child sex trafficking. Throw the book at him.
Not good!!!
I will suggest that now is a good time to acquaint yourself with a good VPN service and/or the TOR Project (https://www.torproject.org/). While these tools are good security/privacy measures for guys with our particular hobbies, you can also set yourself up to appear as if you're surfing from outside the U.S. So, any site blocking U.S. traffic opens up wide.
I can see TER just fine.
you ain't shit for doing shutting down backpage on a goddamn payday friday.
oh, and your momma ain't shit.
sincerely, gothamyte
Will any sane person? Not likely. Lol
stop legislating morality that doesn’t really work...
The mid- to high-end escorts will be fine. Especially the independents. They're relatively clever and entrepreneurial. They'll figure out where their customers are hanging out outside of FOSTA's reach and just go there.
But I see your point. These are the problems that arise when you take a legal act between consenting adults and make it arbitrarily illegal under certain circumstances (payment).