So last night i got a Dancers number at spearmint rhino. Spent about 250 on her and before i spent a single dollar we must have chatted for an hour and a half easily without her bringing up a lapdance or VIP session. After i bought a vip with her, she came back and joined me and after heading to the dancers room for a bit. Same deal not bringing up dances and just being able to hold conversation well.We been texting each other all night and are meeting up later today. Is this the norm in vegas or am i about to be suckered outta like 2 grand? Help a first timer in vegas out
It's a surprising story, especially for Rhino, especially just after CES week. But hey, she hasn't asked you for anything for the meet yet, you might as well play it out. Note that unlike in many other places, when a Vegas stripper says "I'll hang out with you tomorrow for $500", it usually does NOT imply sex, so if that's important to you, maybe negotiate that explicitly.
Are you sure about the $250? Could be wrong, but by very hazy memory, VIP was $200 plus mandatory drinks (at least another $50-$100), plus the girls and bouncer expect tips. Plus drinks on the floor are costly, you didn't buy her anything?
Getting carryout in Las Vegas strip clubs is not that unusual and I am not suprised about her asking price as 2 grand. Personally I would not pay that rate. I have taken dancers back to my room for much much less. You are taking a big risk that she is going to deliver what you could get from a rated high quality escort for that price (with an overnight stay in many cases). As a side note ROB's exist in vegas in higher percentages IMO since they are not establishing regulars unless you go there often or are a local. Its one and done hustle for most.
Its a gamble but hey its Las Vegas. Good luck buddy!
Upright: agree with everything you said (Vegas strippers are very comfortable hangout out with PLs outside the club, for a high price, often without sex), with the correction (at least to my reading) that the stripper did not quote 2k -- OP is asking if he should be on the lookout to being suckered for 2k. The answer, according to both of us, I think, is: yes, he should be on the lookout.
brownguy: I think you should set your expectations low -- expect to be asked for 1k-2k, and that does not include sex. And then hopefully she'll exceed expectations. But don't get over-excited about this opportunity until you've worked it out.
I know a Vegas stripper who does this very often -- in fact, it's a more important part of her income than stripping. She asks for $1k minimum to see the PL outside the club (she'll tell him, "I was scheduled to work, so it's fair for you to buy out my shift", even though she had no intention of working). PLs usually do not specifically ask whether sex is included, and if they don't ask, she thinks it's fair to let them assume whatever they want; but most assuredly, there is no sex without an uplift, and for many customers she won't offer more than HJ. I think overall that's a pretty common model
Being from Vegas and a Rhino dancer. I’d agree with $1000 particularly on a weekend. You might get away with $400-$500 for a dayshift dancer during the week. I’ve been offered OTC here many times. All dayshift. The going rate was $300 but it was not at the Rhino.
I’m no stranger to Vegas, in fact it’s the only place I’d say I know well. Roughly 30 trips in the last two years... and I live out of state.
$1,000 is by and large the median that I encounter for OTC... and there is no shortage. I have pulled from Palomino, Rhino and Saphire.
I’ve never been quoted $2,000, and if I did I’d ask how she managed to gold-plate her pussy.
I get quoted $1,500 probably 25% of the time, but after showing complete disinterest but NEVER being rude or condescending, and having probably 15 go-to options in my phone, they usually say, “I could do $1,000 for you because [insert some fake compliment here].”
I know one incredible girl that does $700, and one that used to do $400 but she moved away.
The other thing, I have my tastes and feel like I truly only seem to have interest in the so-called premier girls it seems at times. The ones that clearly get all the attention, and often times are found on the club’s marketing materials. — If you have different tastes or settle for (less?) the rates might be different.
If you are near her age (10 yrs difference or less), and usually hook-up w/ good-looking civies (non strippers), then you "may" have a chance she may be interested in just chilling w/ you outside the club for free - o/w assume she's angling for payment but that doesn't mean you have to pay her for anything that was not agreed to beforehand (unless you decide you wanna pay up).
I am not in the age-range to date strippers "genuinely" nor do I score w/ hot young civvies - in my case I would have ironed out the details at the club - I would have been straight-forward and asked her if "the meet" was business or pleasure.
James: In the case of both the stripper I was talking about, and her friends, they all have the same M.O... at some point during teh night, they ask for the money. Sometimes, they get so drunk partying that they forget to ask before the very end. Problems with the guys are rare enough (remember, if the guys asks for sex, the girls will shame them a bit and say that was never part of the deal and never discussed) that they just don't sweat it. I'm sure different strippers have different policies, but these girls just generally don't find it to be a problem, though of course they're happier if they get the money partway through, just in case
You should probably think ahead of time how to handle the situation of $$$ when/if it comes up that way you're not caught off-guard like a PL in the headlights
Oh sorry, I see now I completely misread James's scenario. Yeah, you're right, in the end he says yes or no , and if he says no, it's not like there's a bouncer around. That said, if she's smart, she herself will raise this early on
Het a girl friend dude. Strippers are like normal girls outside. They won't do anything outside the strip club. It's a fantasy land.Keep the fantasy inside the club.
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Are you sure about the $250? Could be wrong, but by very hazy memory, VIP was $200 plus mandatory drinks (at least another $50-$100), plus the girls and bouncer expect tips. Plus drinks on the floor are costly, you didn't buy her anything?
Its a gamble but hey its Las Vegas. Good luck buddy!
brownguy: I think you should set your expectations low -- expect to be asked for 1k-2k, and that does not include sex. And then hopefully she'll exceed expectations. But don't get over-excited about this opportunity until you've worked it out.
I know a Vegas stripper who does this very often -- in fact, it's a more important part of her income than stripping. She asks for $1k minimum to see the PL outside the club (she'll tell him, "I was scheduled to work, so it's fair for you to buy out my shift", even though she had no intention of working). PLs usually do not specifically ask whether sex is included, and if they don't ask, she thinks it's fair to let them assume whatever they want; but most assuredly, there is no sex without an uplift, and for many customers she won't offer more than HJ. I think overall that's a pretty common model
Trust me.
$1,000 is by and large the median that I encounter for OTC... and there is no shortage. I have pulled from Palomino, Rhino and Saphire.
I’ve never been quoted $2,000, and if I did I’d ask how she managed to gold-plate her pussy.
I get quoted $1,500 probably 25% of the time, but after showing complete disinterest but NEVER being rude or condescending, and having probably 15 go-to options in my phone, they usually say, “I could do $1,000 for you because [insert some fake compliment here].”
I know one incredible girl that does $700, and one that used to do $400 but she moved away.
The other thing, I have my tastes and feel like I truly only seem to have interest in the so-called premier girls it seems at times. The ones that clearly get all the attention, and often times are found on the club’s marketing materials. — If you have different tastes or settle for (less?) the rates might be different.
I am not in the age-range to date strippers "genuinely" nor do I score w/ hot young civvies - in my case I would have ironed out the details at the club - I would have been straight-forward and asked her if "the meet" was business or pleasure.
You may or may not be about to be suckered out of 2 grand.
They meet, have a drink or something, no sex. At some point she ass for $1000. What happens if he says no, aside from never seeing her again?
After that...
Maybe she leaves quietly, probably she gets a little ugly and demands some cash and maybe makes some kind of threat, small chance she goes postal.