Dancers ordering expensive drinks ?

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Papi_Chulo
Miami, FL (or the nearest big-booty club)
I'm not one to spend much one-on-one time w/ dancers chit-chatting (I'm usually getting dances or scouting the floor or looking at the stage) - thus I rarely buy drinks for dancers and usually turn them down when they ask me b/c I rather spend my $$$ on dances rather than over-priced SC drinks - at times I may buy a drink for a dancer that gave me really good dances and put in some work, or once in a blue-moon but a dancer a drink b/c she asks and I know her and she's given me good-dances.

There are dancers that seem to really like their alcohol and wanna get their drink-on on the custy's dime - and some of them seem to need to drink in order to perform as a stripper and may also want the custy to pony-up for their drinks.

Once in a while I feel more benevolent and will buy a dancer a drink if she asks - but there are dancers that will take advantage of one's politeness/generosity and will ask for a drink and then treat themselves to expensive drinks - two occasions that I remember:

1) at Follies a while back on an early Su afternoon where the club was kinda still slow (may have been around 2 pm) - a slender ebony w/ big natural boobs approaches me and asks for a drink - she had great tits so I all of a sudden felt more benevolent - so she asks if she could have a drink maybe 10 seconds after she approaches me and I say ok - waitress comes back and tells me it was $15 (w/o tip) - I had been in ATL since Wed or Th and been clubbing hard and by Su was not in a mood to be spending big - I got pissed for her ordering such an expensive drink w/o asking me first if it was ok and being in a pissed mood I declined to pay for it - she had been the one to order from the waitress instead of me so she ended up paying for it and naturally we parted ways after that

2) @ Baby Dolls Dallas early-on in my PL-career and way b/f being a TUSCL scholar - visited BDs on a slow weekday afternoon - was approached by a MILF that looked like she had been around the SC-block - she asks for q drink and being a chivalrous newb I said "sure" - waitress comes back and tells me it's $25 for her drink on damn dayshift (she had ordered a mini-bottle of champagne) - being a newb "I didn't wanna make a scene" as many ball-less newbs often say and just paid up; but probably would not do so today - I don't mind spending $$$ in a SC but I don't like being taken advantage of which I consider the case when a dancer orders an expensive drink w/o asking if it's ok first


Have you ever felt uncomfortable/pissed b/c a dancer ordered what you thought was an overly expensive drink? If I'm the one to offer then I feel that's kinda on me; but if she's the one that asks and then gets an expensive drink (or at least much more expensive than the avg drink), then I feel she's taking advantage - what say the PL-gallery?

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Subraman
7 years ago
Papi,

For many years I used to panic over what she was going to say when she ordered her drink. Over the past 10 years, I've made this a non-issue by taking complete control over the drink order. She doesn't get to say shit to the waitress, unless it's to answer the question of what she wants as her back. What I do:

1. Ask her what she wants, before the waitress gets there (if we'll be ordering from the waitress). Often, I'll start constraining her choices right there: We're doing shots, what do you like, vodka or tequila? I'll give her a little wiggle room, but not much. She asks for Kettle1, I tell her "I can buy $20 shots and only do 1 VIP with you today, or buy cheap shots and do 2 or 3 VIPs", and that conversation is now over.

2. Go to the bar and order her drink for her, if I'm ordering at the bar. Same if it's a waitress: I order both of our drinks, very specifically mentioning "well shots" or "Svedka and soda" or some other less-expensive alcohol.


If the waitress gets to us before I've had a chance to have "the talk" with her, I'll tell the waitress to come back in a few minutes, or in my home club where I"m most comfortable, I'll have that discussion with the waitress right there (the waitresses all know I'm a cheap fuck when it comes to drinks anyway).

In short, caveat emptor, if you didn't take control of the order, there's an extent to which I think you're reaping what you've sewn.
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MackTruck
7 years ago
I will dump a load on her head for you papi
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Warrior15
7 years ago
I'm 22 in Houston. Dancer orders Dom. I was too naive to know that was champagne so I nodded yes to the waittress. Then the bill comes and I realize i had bought a $300 bottle. Ouch, that was a really hard lesson because I didn't make much back then.
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twentyfive
7 years ago
^^^Buying champagne in the club is a chumps game. ;)
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Not being much of a drinker I usually don't know how much a drink costs just by the name - but having been burned b/f with dancers treating themselves to expensive drinks on my dime, in the few occasions these days that I buy a dancer a drink I now usually ask them how much it is.

It may come across a petty but I don't like over-paying for stuff and don't like a dancer IDK from a hole in the wall taking advantage of my generosity; it's not like I'm dating the chick or trying to - if I enjoyed sitting and drinking w/ dancers then I may not mind as much, but in my case it's usually the dancer just asking to buy her a drink and if I do it's not necessarily to kick it w/ her but more to do her a favor.
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shadowcat
7 years ago
I think I have gotten burned twice but my favorite story was the time I was sitting with my ATF in the club. She didn't do drugs and rarely drank. So her ex BF comes into the club and tries to talk her into dumping me and coming over to him. She told him NO! A while later the waitress came over and said that her ex wanted to buy her a drink. So my ex asked her what the most expensive drink was and then she ordered it. She left the $23 drink sitting on the table untouched.
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Salty.Nutz
7 years ago
i dont buy them drinks, but i will get them bottled water if they ask. the only time i get them a drink is when i get a bottle.
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GoVikings
7 years ago
its understandable why you'd be upset by the drinks they ordered. 15 bucks and 25 bucks is pretty expensive for one drink. as a customer, its nice enough just to buy them a drink, so you would think that they'd order something that is more reasonably priced

i can't recall encountering this. i've bought dancers drinks before, but what they ordered wasn't terribly expensive. i like sitting and drinking with dancers.
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Subraman
7 years ago
->"It may come across a petty but I don't like over-paying for stuff and don't like a dancer IDK from a hole in the wall taking advantage of my generosity; it's not like I'm dating the chick or trying to - if I enjoyed sitting and drinking w/ dancers then I may not mind as much, but in my case it's usually the dancer just asking to buy her a drink and if I do it's not necessarily to kick it w/ her but more to do her a favor."

I DO enjoy sitting and drinking with the dancers, but it still doesn't come across to me as petty that you'd not want to pay for a super expensive drink. Your fucking money, if you want to spend it on dances instead of drinks, that's your call ... and, in fact, even as a "sit all afternoon and buy the dancers drinks" guy, I make sure I'm not buying expensive drinks.

Given how everyone in the club is trying to fleece you, I think the ONLY sane thing is to take control of the drink order somehow -- whether it's constraining her choices to cheap drinks from the get-go (like I do) or asking her "how much does that drink cost" like you do, the only bad choice is just letting her order whatever she wants and hoping for the best
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grand1511
7 years ago
I've never been burned by an overly expensive drink order, but what really burns me about dancer drinks is when they don't sit and drink it with you. Last night I had a hottie gulping down her drink on several occasions while she was dancing for me. But what I really hate is when they say thanks, pick up the full drink and take off from the table. Buying a dancer a drink, to me implies spending some social time together.
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Subraman
7 years ago
^^^ Agree. At the clubs I go to, it's an unwritten rule that if you buy a dancer a drink, she stays with you AT LEAST until it's gone. That's one reason why buying dancers drinks is, IMO, the 2nd best deal in the club ... lots of groping time at the table, for little $.
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Warrior15
7 years ago
" ^^^Buying champagne in the club is a chumps game. ;) "

Yep. I was young and stupid. I knew what Dom was after that.
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jester214
7 years ago
I used to be a lot looser about buying drinks then I noticed their tendency to order something expensive. Then twice I had them order a beer in addition to their liquor drink which I later realized they were spitting the liquor into.
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TheDude954
7 years ago
What gets under my skin are the clubs where a drink for the dancer is 40-50% higher than the exact same drink would be if I ordered it for myself. I would buy drinks for ladies more often if it didn't feel like the club was trying to extract every last cent from me in the process.

Solution: find the 19-20 year old dancers in the club, some have to wear bracelets, and then it's a non-issue!
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gammanu95
7 years ago
At the Scarlett's in Ft Myers, the dancers only sit with guys who are buying them drinks. Unless you are a known regular who always buys drinks, you are unlikely to get any attention, even after sitting at the stage tipping a dancer. This is a club with a lot of "make it rain" idiots, which only makes it even sillier. Even though the best looking girls are there, I rarely go there.

The only way it could be worse is if it had shot girls, with their neon test tubes of $5-$12 watered down corn syrup. Babe's has a couple of those. Buying tube shots is truly the chump's game.
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
Yeah - that shit of charging 2x if one buys a drink for a dancer is a total lack of consideration if not a total lack of respect for a custy - almost like saying "we think you're such a loser that we'll charge you 2x for her drink and you'll still buy it" - no reason to do that shit other than looking at your custies as dopes
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Dolfan
7 years ago
I buy dancers drinks all the time. I usually offer. Sometimes they order expensive shit. I'm buying them drinks because I want to get to know them, what they order and how says a lot to me so its just a cost of getting what I want. I'm also a bit particular about my liquor, so I can relate to a dancer wanting Patron and not well Tequila. I've learned that girls who order expensive drinks without a double check or apology or something aren't the girls I want to hang out with. It's not about the extra $5-10 bucks a drink, its indicative of an attitude of superiority and entitlement that I don't enjoy. I'd rather spend that $10 and waste 10 minutes on a drink than spend $60 and 45 minutes chatting and getting a couple dances to find out about those traits. I rarely say yes when a girl asks if I'll buy her a drink, if she's been sitting with me enough for me to be willing to do it, I'll have offered.

So, I can't say that I've ever been uncomfortable/pissed about it, but it very much is a way for me to lose interest in a stripper. When they do order shit that I feel is over the top, I'm usually quick to urge them to move on. Often well before they finish their drink. I can recall one instance a few years back at the Rhino in Palm Beach. A dancer I found hot as fuck was sitting with me and I offered her a drink. She was a very slim girl, comparable to Sabrina Banks the porn star but a bit thinner with a less pretty face as well as more tatoo's and piercings. So, hot, but not for everyone. She ordered some $25 bullshit drink, while my Johnnie's were going for $5. Our drinks came and it was $30, I gave her a little cheers and said "you can take that with you" pointing to her glass. She was pretty pissed, snatched up the drink and stormed off.

I didn't really intend to watch her, but she was hot so I kept noticing her. She must have stopped at every table in there and was rejected. She went on stage and guys sitting in the front row literally got up and left and the ones that stayed didn't tip. I think she was the only girl who didn't get a single tip during her set. She wound up sitting alone at a table a few away from me. I would see her as I would go back and forth to tip girls on stage or get dances. Eventually, she came back over and asked me what she did, why I got dances from a bunch of other girls but not her. I told her I thought that shit was rude and didn't want to waste my time talking to her and have her overcount dances, or tell me she charges $35 instead of $25 or any of the other bullshit entitled little princesses do. She again stormed off pissed.



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vincemichaels
7 years ago
I don't buy drinks for the dancers.
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Warrenboy75
7 years ago
With the exception of the NYC debacle I've mentioned on here before most dancers have been pretty good about not taking advantage.

Normally I sit at the bar and I get to know the bartender(s) and I've given this advice before but overall making nice to the bartender seems to work for me on multiple fronts, introductions, pointing out the girls who are fun, introducing me to the upper management, giving me free passes......and making sure no dancer is too much of an ass. ( pertinent to this topic)

About a 1/3 of them order coffee oddly enough when they are sitting with me and they are young before anyone makes the comment I am hitting on the grannies :--)
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JackScott
7 years ago
From what I can see, the drink is more of a hustle than a treat. I don't know if getting drinks on the custy's tab saves the dancer on her tipouts or if she gets special perks for getting us to buy drinks in general but the last (and only) time I bought a dancer a drink, she didn't even drink it. It was $10 and I think that it was just a big glass of Dr. Pepper.

I can't see someone drinking more than once or twice on their shift (if at all). It seems to me that by the 3rd drink, she'll be too wasted to make any money.
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Papi_Chulo
7 years ago
^ if a waitress asks if you'd like to buy the lady a drink, the dancer cannot say no and always has to accept the drink if u ask her if she wants something in front of the waitress
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Bj99
7 years ago
As a dancer, I take note of whether the customer is drinking. If he is having liquor, I don’t think twice ab ordering what I want (same price as his; not double). If he is not drinking, or is having beer, I’ll ask if he minds and tell him how much my preferred drink costs. I think subraman once said that he gives the girl 10, and lets her decide what she’d like to do w it. That seems fair also.
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Subraman
7 years ago
BJ: that wasn't me. If the girl doesn't want to drink with me, I ask her to move on, she doesn't get a choice into how I spend my money, just whether or not she'd prefer to move on. I'm pretty focused on the experience I'm looking for: we'll be hanging out for a few hours, I'll be buying us both lunch, we'll be doing a LOT of drinks, and some VIPs. With occasional exceptions, if there's any deviation I politely send her on her way.

Like I said, I feel like buying a stripper drinks is the 2nd best deal in the club. Best deal is buying her food.
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Bj99
7 years ago
Oh okay, I must have confused you with someone else. I thought it was a good idea tho, since it let her choose if she wanted the tip, or a drink.
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