As it is with gays, and with polyamorists, should the regular users of strip clubs be considered as an alternative lifestyle sexual minority? And exactly who is to be included, and how far does it go?
Responding to DirkDiggler's thread tuscl.net
And Lopaw, as one of our very few female regular patrons of strip clubs, has there ever been a time when you have considered being a dancer, even part time, like on weekends?
SJG
Those differences: Seeking multiple partners on a regular basis, preferring those women who offer sex and sex acts regularly and for money, and possibly seeking to have regular outside relationships with them. Often showing a preference for women wearing exaggerated makeup and high heels, and little or nothing else.
Showing little interest in or ability to maintain marital monogamy.
Possibly being 'out' about the above, but maybe not.
Doesn't that describe a sexual minority which has, practices which differ from the majority of the surrounding society?
SJG
you are going to keep hammering away trying to get people to agree with you but it is not going to happen so get pissed off now and start threatening people with violence you can't back up. Or maybe talk about your non-existent firewall, you ass clown.
For whatever its worth, if I went to a club where I discovered that there were both male and female strippers, I'd probably leave and never go to that club again.
SJG is the only sexual minority around here...the only one who can't get laid makes him the minority.
JackScott, if I found a club to have both male and female strippers, I would definitely leave and never return.
Now aware of any such place, and no I don't want to know where there are any.
Wildbourbon, why don't you go back to chewing on redwood bark, or whatever it is you do.
SJG
People who go to strip clubs really like sex.
That's not a minority, you nitwit.
^^^^^^ Dougster again, funny in a way, but it still encourages trolling.
Refusing monogamy, preference for P4P, learned to especially like women in high heels and makeup, and learned how to engage with some often rather mercenary and down trodden girls, this doesn't constitute deviance from established social norms to such an extent that it amounts to the establishment of a sexual minority? I am talking about the frequent patrons of strip clubs.
too inclusive, including swingers, polyamorists, BDSM people and other perceived "sexual strangers".
"Others referred to as "sexual minorities" include fetishists and practitioners in of BDSM (bondage, dominance, and submission), and sadism and masochism"
For the regular user of strip clubs, and especially for those seeking FS-ITC and OTC, and with more than just two or three women, and for those who have developed a special taste for women in stripper attire?
SJG
Yes San Jose Guy you are a sexual minority because most people do not like or want gerbils put up their anal cavity.
Is sexual minority what you named your tiny penis?
No SJG. I never considered dancing. Ever. Maybe if it was at a lesbian club with all women customers, I might have considered it. But never for guys. No way, Jose.
That's "No Way San Jose" lopaw!!!! lol
I smell failure...oh yea its you SJG. Stop reeking up this place!
This is SJG wanting to to be an oppressed, misunderstood minority. As opposed to simply being some version of a pervert, deviant, or just plain horny (like everyone else here).
It's intellectually dishonest to those who are actual minorities and have a verifiable beef.
Fucking weirdo
I don’t even know if stuff like poly is a sexual minority, or a lifestyle minority. I’m actully intrigued by the idea of a stable relationship w two men who get along very well (no gay sex tho). I like the idea of them having another man in the relationship to help them out, and to make decisions with. Plus, I prefer men as friends. I also realize they’d have to have some freedoms that most men in relationship don’t get. I’d struggle with jealousy, but they’d have to share too. I wouldn’t go outside of the relationship myself.
Bj99 - that’s a very interesting idea. I’m a bit curious about this - as it seems there are cultures where men can take multiple wives - but the idea of a woman with multiple male partners (maybe husbands?) is rare.
So we would be listed on an application under gender - Male - Female - PL? No thanks! Unless I get one of those handicapped placards - so I can park in the front row at the store!
Yes, it’s rare. If I remember correctly, it’s only really common in Tibet, where an entire family of brother shares one wife, to keep the land in the family, and to work it together. I do think it could work though. I’ve have a few very close friendships with multiple men. It would take the right dynamic.
In my view - and my view is all based on generalization - it could work well (with two men who are intelligent and don’t have jealousy issues). The sharing of a partner wouldn’t concern me. It intrigues me as a theoretical arrangement.
Since the sexual (male on male) relationship wouldn’t exist, the female should be secure in her role, as she would be the center of the family.
I’m guessing it would also allow for one person to stay at home and raise the children - as there would be two incomes brought home. The question that would be interesting is - would another man stay home to be Mr. Mom to another man’s child?
Actully, I think it would work best w an educated type alpha male, and a more nurturing chill type guy. I would let the men decide nearly everything. They get a lot more decision power together than most men get in the home.
I see your point regarding the alpha and beta personality types. That makes sense. Would you envision the relationship to be an alpha (bull) and then the other male being the cuck? It’s not my thing at all - but it would eliminate any male competition - as the roles would be well defined.
Bisons of good head soaking? You are now employing wild beasts in your threats now?
BJ if you could pull that off getting alpha male and beta chill to get along together then you you got it nailed. Thats really the dynamic thats gotta be overcome since alpha males usually dont have much patience for beta males, especially if betas are not pulling their weight.
It sounds like the ideal mate mix giving you the best of both worlds. You probably would never get bored with your guys assuming you could keep conflict and jealousy out of the picture.
Actully, the alpha would have to be more of a bro, and the beta would have to appreciate his support against outside men.
Thanks for that info Lopaw. I had wondered if that would be the case.
Locally we have had all women's shows at a lesbian bar. The girls who dance at it though are the same girls who dance at our other local clubs. They are the ones who tell me about it.
Bj69, consider that if you go back far enough, most male homosexuals were either married to women, or probably Catholic Priests. They were not 'out', not really even to themselves. Many of them suffered horribly, thinking they had some sort of a serious moral defect, and submitting themselves to psychiatrists and psychotherapists to be 'cured'.
And today, Swingers, many such, do see themselves as a sexual minority. Although swinging generally appeals to those on the Right.
Stan Dale was a long term proponent and practitioner of polyamory.
Some people are able to make polyamory work long term, without it having to be P4P, and without it having to resemble the far right ownership systems of the LDS inspired Utah polygamists.
For a guy who just occasionally goes to a strip club and does what is done, that is one thing. But for a guy who is committed to only having strippers and other pros as sex partners, I believe that that is an alternative sexual lifestyle. And likewise for dancers who want nothing else but that. I have known such, one I mentioned before, knowing her locally, but she mostly dancing at the SF Market St. Cinema. All she wanted was as much sex as possible, and money was really only a secondary objective. She wanted to be with people who were like her, radicals. That was what was most important to her. And the same goes for those I've called, "The Beloved Latina Escorts".
SJG
Trump and the Republicans are getting me so pissed that its hard to watch today's news.
My Ignore List: DrPhil, DrPhil., IME, Meat72, san_jose_gay, tixtittyfag, JimGassagain, Call.Me.Ishmael, SirLapdancealot
Portal, please save this some place safe in case there are ever any temporary TUSCL outages sites.google.com
King Crimson, live in Japan youtube.com
Yardbirds youtube.com
Sounds like you need twins, one alpha, one beta. Although you probably dont want Danny Devito even if it comes with Arnold Schwarzenegger.
SJG... Before you start waxing philosophic about being a sexual minority, you may want to start having sex.
Well, guys here often pay a woman for sex, who is sleeping w other men. How would you feel ab being in a stable relationship w a woman and a guy you are okay with? It can be up to you. Not an ex boyfriend type. I think men really need a best friend.
Care to elaborate?
SJG