Sugar Baby Advice

Yes. Seeking arrangement. Overall I was very disappointed. Time is money to me. SA takes to much time. Between e mailing, phone calls, setting initial meets to only find out that the advertised pictures are out of date, they're old, fat or worse. Fuck if I wanted that I'd have stayed married. I prefer clubs over sa, Eros and backpage. I've done all of them. Sitting in a club you get the physical attraction right away then see if there's chemistry. Spend a little money I her she knows you're serious then make the OTC inquiry. If she's not into it or the bs factor is to high then it's an easy onto the next chick. Of course, though I club in Detroit which to me is the Mecca of stripper extra/OTC world. Good luck

Like Sal, I tried Seeking Arrangements and was disappointed. I live in the vicinity of the University of Michigan and Eastern Michigan University, and so there are about 30,000 coeds who might be interested in an attractive older gentlemen--or even in me. But I got no hits from coeds in my area. The women who did respond were not interesting to me.

I think I made 2 mistakes in my Seeking Arrangements profile: (1) I posted my real age and (2) I posted real pictures of myself.

@VirgoTheVirgin: You're not going to get an objective answer on a stripper site, like this.

In my area there are 55,000 college undergrads within driving distance. If you're an elitist and throw out the community college students, there are still 35,000 left over. Not to mention grad students if you like old ladies. Since sleeping with middle-aged midlife-crisis victims is now socially acceptable, you can bet there's a good percentage of those girls who will be better looking than strippers and be out there looking for tuition money. And these girls are far less likely to have herpes or have a heroin addiction or have the the gumption to pull a pregnancy extortion or just slit your throat.

Yes it's more expensive -- but only because these are supposed to be ongoing arrangements and not one-night stands. I can only see strip clubs if you travel a lot and if you're looking for pump-and-dump sex.

Thanks Sal69. That’s been my experience as well. I tried one seeking arrangement site 3 weeks ago, and if that’s how it is, then it’s way too much work.
I’ve had some great times in the club and otc, but some of these strippers want way too much money. I have an ATF who is wearing on me due to a nasty drug habit.

My short answer is: if you're interested, yes, you should try it. If you do, commit to 3 months -- for me, there was a bit of a learning curve on writing an attractive profile and how the communication works.

My long answer is here: https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5049…

My medium answer is:
I started on SA with a few other guys on another forum; all of the other guys dropped out but me. I'm not questioning anyone's experience -- I believe RM is having an awesome one, and Jack had a terrible one, guys seem to be all over the map based on what they're looking for. Here's a summary of what I think are the plusses and minusses versus mongering and PLing, based on my particular experience:

Seeking Arrangement plusses:
- Thousands of girls who you won't find on eros or in strip clubs
- There are high quality girls, by which I mean, educated, smart, reliable, and would not otherwise be in the sex industry if not for this model
- You know that the girl your with has not just fucked and blown 5 other guys that day
- You can construct your own "arrangement model" ... you want some girl who will text you every day and travel with you? You want some girl who will meet you at a hotel for an hour and then go? You want some girl who is a bit in between -- meet you for a few hours, then hotel, then text you once or twice a week in between? Whatever it is you're looking for, you can find it, there's a very wide range of women looking for a very wide range of outcomes.

Seeking Arrangements negatives:
- While there are specific, high quality women on SA, as a group, they are flakier (I am not exaggerating, it is a good deal worse) than even strippers. Expect women to disappear mid-conversation, or after you've agreed to meet, or the day of the meet, or an hour before you meet. This is the rule, not the exception.
- Just like pictures of escorts on eros, or civilians on Match, as a rule pictures look better (often much better) than the girls themselves
- As a group, SA girls are not as hot as strippers
- I've gotten more "baby my car broken down, can you front me $300" in the last 6 months on SA, than I got in 20 years SCing. Again, not an exaggeration.

Seeking Arrangements interesting observations:
- SA is full of strippers and ex-strippers ... in fact, they are, as a group, the hottest girls on SA
- Lots of fake profiles, but you'll start seeing the patterns
- The SA oldtime SDs have told me that there was a time when most on SA were looking for classic SD/SB arrangements. It is definitely not that way anymore ... in my area, at least, girls looking for something else along the slide scale between "escort style hour model" and "classic arrangement" far outnumber the girls who are only looking for a more classic arrangement.


In all, I joined SA looking for a classic sugarbaby: meet often, for long periods of time, enjoy each others' company, get to know each other, travel together. Have ended up mostly using it for shorter-term hookups.

There is another forum I can't mention by name. It has subforums for many different metro areas across the country. The Richmond forum is considered to be the home page for SA mongers. If you are seriously considering that route, go there and do your homework 1st. They have some best-of lists that I believe are pinned.

Just out of curiosity, why cant' you name it, LM? is there a specific policy here? Or you're exercising your own discretion? I ask because some forums do have rules about discussing any other forum, but I'm unaware of tuscl having such rules

@ Jackslash, we're neighbors! Lol

"I think I made 2 mistakes in my Seeking Arrangements profile: (1) I posted my real age and (2) I posted real pictures of myself."

Never and I mean never do B......I use SA--actually I started with SA and found some of the better looking women and the ones most eager to meet for the least amount of trouble up front were strippers....and then I started going back to clubs after years of not visiting one.

There is no doubt the flavor of SA has changed over the past five years---a lot more work, many more pros, and depending on what part of the country you are looking flakes and fakes.........DC seems to be the best hunting ground .....Northeast Ohio the worst. Philadelphia isn't bad.........NYC has the GPS.

I'm guessing the other forum has a "fight club" rule Subraman --pertaining to LM's comment.

what does GPS stand for?

golden pussy syndrome

Thanks all. It appears the strip club route may continue to be the best option since it seems to be a pain in the ass otherwise. My experiences seem to mirror most of your comments.

Yeah, SeekingArrangements is too-much work, they need to come up with something easier like SeekingANut

I just spent my afternoon with my current SA girl IN a strip club, followed by several hours at a hotel having sex and watching the Raiders win a football game.

I am not as picky as most of the guys here, so I'm willing to date a girl that is not necessarily "stripper hot" as long as she is "porn star nasty" when it comes to the sex. Because of that I have rarely been without an SA girl I've been seeing for more than 2-3 weeks since I started back in January.

warrenboy75, "DC seems to be the best hunting ground"

how much do you pay in DC and in Philadelphia?

Thanks for the insights regarding those sites. I’m in the NYC area - and I’m going to keep going the otc stripper route (and itc stripper route when it works).

I’m a bit old school - as I like to see the girl first - know what she looks like now - see if there’s any connection - and then work out the dirty details.

i'm with you cashman. a 15 minute vip 'interview' usually is what it requires. sometimes i get lucky with just one lap dance.

I’ve been checking out SA for the last 2-3 weeks and I’ve had quite a bit of success and a few flops I was very short in my profile, I posted a single picture and did not mention my age specifically just alluded to it and made a brief mention of the fact I own a business. Some of the girls are awesome as hot or hotter than any stripper some are phonies with 10 years out of dare photos. The vast majority that I messaged were reliable meets one was a flake that was looking for a fight another two asked for a loan I deleted and blocked those so far it’s been interesting I’ll let you guys know at the end of this month , but so far it’s been mostly positive.
One hint to any one thinking about trying SA no endless chat if you don’t get a phone number that works by the 4th or 5th message cut bait and go to the next one. Also if they take more than 24 hours to respond forget them too.