How Many Find Women To Be Too Emotionally Explosive To Be Too Involved With, And
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I certainly have found women to be too emotionally explosive, so that you do need to be careful in the kinds of situations you get into with them. And I do feel that a large portion of those who dance in strip clubs are even worse.
Some of it is just recklessness and irresponsibility. Some of it though is over legitimate issues. But some of it I would classify as emotional terrorism, trying to use situations, or that venerable institution known as marriage, as a weapon.
Like once at the Sunnyvale Brass Rail, a woman was in the parking lot, holding a hollow plastic baseball bat, and standing near a compact pickup truck, where she swung the bat and hit the vehicle's rear window. It did not break.
I was not going to let her do that. Though I did not know her, and considered that it could be her vehicle and that she could be one of their dancers, I knew that if you stand idly by and let things like that go on, it degrades the safety of the environment. Soon more stuff will be happening.
So I insisted that their doorman stop it. And then finally, I had to tell him that if he didn't, then I, or the cops, would.
It was the woman's own vehicle and she was mad because it wouldn't start. But still, you can't let people do stuff like that.
In the organization I am building, the women who are more than just party favors to pass around, they will have proven themselves to be even tempered and responsible in their conduct.
Overall, if you are fucking her, then that does seem to stir up primitive emotions and make blow ups or sustained campaigns of emotional terrorism more likely.
And I am not insensitive to the fact that women do need ways to exercise power, in order to look out for themselves and their interests. But I just think that there need to be social containers put into place, to keep the level of tumult bounded.
Women will often act in ways which a man could never get away with. If a man acted like that, then he would suffer consequences, and some of these could be extreme and immediate. Women rage and rage because they know there will be no consequences.
And though I did not originate this idea, I do seriously consider that the main axis of violence in our society could well be mother to son.
And then with the dancers from strip clubs, they are already being subjected to huge emotional stresses on a regular basis. One dancer here refereed to what the other girls do as, "psychological warfare", trying to incapacitate the competition as soon as they first enter the dressing room. And I have found that when it comes to relationships, strip club dancers seem to lack in emotional maturity. Once they are out of their on the job persona, they can revert to about a jr. high school level. Again, I'm not really condemning them, I just feel that one has to invent a kind of social container to make situations more workable. I certainly don't plan to spend my life dealing with female emotional terrorism. Been there, done that.
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You pay them to cuddle and act as a therapist.
No way!
SJG
But are you careful about the situations you get into with women, or with some women?
Ever had one who was just to erratic and explosive?
SJG
This does make sense. I think though it means that you are not getting into the same situations with strippers that most people get into with civvies.
BurlingtonHoFactory wrote, "Some people will no doubt take exception, but I have long been of the opinion that men and women simply have very little in common."
I go along with this, but the ramification is that you need to be more deliberate and careful about what kinds of situations you set up to put men and women together.
skibum609, your insight is interesting. I've seen evidence to suggest this myself, but I've also seen it the other way. And I have been in a much more conflicted marriage than yours.
JamesSD, I am fighting on, my organization is to be founded on some key political and legal victories. It is to be a scalp taking group, not a live and let live type of group. So I am active in conflicts on the ground on a daily basis. It is from this that I will get to move beyond the present small handful of people.
SJG
But I think it is more by social convention than that it has to be this way. But then it may be that most societies have always been something like this, many more so than ours.
The way I look at it, you have gender symmetrical situations, and you have gender complementary situations.
Most of our legal system is set up to be gender symmetrical, treating mean and women the same, as much as possible. And it is like this in most work places. And this is consistent with the self-actualization, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness values of the enlightenment.
But then consider that although things started to go uni-sex in the 1970's, most people do reject unisex dress or hair styles.
And then, were it is intended to promote heterosexual acts, you usually see even more differentiated manners of dress, and of conduct. Thinking of night clubs and parties.
And then the most gender differentiated places in the world are strip clubs. Everything is complementary, never symmetrical.
And so then with car keys and wallet dating, it is mostly complementary. It works because there are outside defined codes of conduct. If it ever falls outside such, that is when dates have been know to blow up.
And then for example with my marriage, for it to have worked there would have needed to have been outside social supports. And this would have made it more gender complementary. But this was not there, so it had to be a private partnership, and this did not really ever come to exist.
And then in the organization I am building, there are basic protections on dignity and personhood, and then there are types of training. These are mostly gender symmetric.
But for the sexual parties, that is all gender complementary. No money, but in every other way it is like the idealized strip club / swinger's club.
Some agreed to gender complimentary seems to be the key to sex.
But to protect basic rights you need it to be gender symmetric.
And so this is why it is okay to come on to women in some situations, but not others.
About men and women not having much in common, well they have very different types of social position and life courses.
I was always impressed that San Jose's Rosicrucian Order AMORC seemed to attract about equal numbers of men and women, and not being dominated by married couples either. Most stuff is always slanted either one way or the other.
My ex wife always said that women don't know about this or know about that. Once it was about using a hand push reel lawn mower. Other times about automobile repair.
She insisted that women did not have the requisite knowledge or bodily strength.
I tried to show her how one learns to compensate for this, and how tools are designed to compensate this. I told her of body builders who had arms so thick they they could do brake work, but not engine work. I told her of learning to use a lawn mower when I was much smaller than an adult woman.
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I suggested that long hair was an issue, as was the cultural taboo against getting dirty.
But what I emphasized is that what women cannot do or do not know about is mostly because they have never tried. For some reason they think that they should not try, that they would lose more than they would gain.
And so again, this is a gender complementarity issue.
Some say that many women are willing to learn to maintain bicycles. But motor vehicles, no way.
I do note that the recent decades have brought more women into school team sports. And I don't necessarily see this is a good thing, rather it promotes social conformity, and capitalism.
And I see more men in the kitchen, and more spending more time taking care of small children.
And if I wanted to be in extremely negative and anti-sexual gender defined environments, then I would go find a church like ATACdawg's
SJG
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"Whenever I get a little bored, I sometimes try dating and I soon regret it; and I often regret my visits to strip clubs, too."
And what I draw from this is that in situations where men and women can get along, its because there are outside scripts being drawn upon and followed, roles being played.
And then in long term relationships, which often are very difficult and especially marriages, more often than not failing, its because our society validates some people's life experiences and not others.
And so again about colleges:
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5066…
And About Elliot Rodger and the PUA - MGTOW people:
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And about college educated women out in the 'real world'
https://www.tuscl.net/?page=post&id=5141…
Our society has always been based on lied, denial, and deception. And so when it comes to heterosexual relationships, given that the men and women don't have much in common, some will be favored in playing these externally defined roles and some will not. It is not that the people are bad, it is just that our society has not favored them as it runs on lies and denial.
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