In non extras club whats the balance on ITC for OTC sex

I also suggest that you spread the cash around so no single girl truly makes bank..but they can see you spending all around...plus this gives you a chance to talk with multiple girls in hopes it increases the odds one will take the otc bait

I also suggest never going at open but a few hours right before closing

I also suggest waiting to Club the last weekend of the month

This for clean clubs only otc strategy

Let me guess everyone just saves up and goes to follies and mother fuck these clean Club strategies or systems

$800 per month is a very responsible budget juice. ;)

All joking aside, in a backwoods NC or small city SC club you should be able to pull it off if you go twice per month and save at least $200 for each OTC adventure. You just don't spend more than $100 on her ITC. The other hundred goes to the cover and drinks for you and the girl.

The rest of what you said doesn't really sync up with my experiences, but to each his own I suppose.

You probably don't have enough scratch for the spread around method to succeed in getting any one girl's panties wet. IMHO you will need to focus a decent chunk of your ITC spending on the best potential candidate you can find and take your chances. If you come up snake eyes, then at least you go home only down a couple of hundred with extra ammo for another ITC night.

If the weekend works for you then great, but my chances for OTC always seem to go down dramatically on a weekend. Sunday or Monday nights are much better because the odds are good that girls who are hungry at the start of the night are still going to be hungry by the end of the night.

One nice thing that I have been finding in one of my local clubs is that my reputation is preceding me. Girls who would never do OTC simply avoid me and ones who might be open for it already have confirmation that I am a known quantity. In many cases they have already seen me leaving with other girls and spending on them ITC beforehand, so I don't have to lay the same amount of groundwork. Something you might want to think about to stretch your limited budget a little further.

Good luck Sir Juice. ;)

About damn time Rick...six years and you finally give me some solid advice for my Falling around in the dark and experiment 's lol

The first six years I've been doing a mix between trying to figure out if I'm a follies kinda ITC client or am I a clean Club OTC guy...

I've had several amazing trips to follies but between hating with a passion that traffic and the instant gratification that follies gives...I find it very unfortunate and unfullfilling....the moments I seem to remember most is the low mileage, high end, clean girls I've chased

Thus bringing me back with a hard focus to make this work for me...I'm extremely close to cracking this for myself...hell a few years back I accomplished just this and even went to far and dated the girl lol...I often felt lucky instead of skilled about it....I'm working hard on my skill level now....I'm not in a three piece suit but I have increased my clothing, smells and my physical health to help pull these 8s and up

I give you and John Smith a hard time more out of locker room fun...but I truly look up to you guys and have been trying to model what I do after you guys with my own personal style.

Thanks man for the information

All I'm trying to do is make sure I'm not offer spending ITC so I can maximize my OTC fun when the opportunity comes

I'm actually trying to reestablish myself as a regular at my local club...I'm on a campaign to own this club.

I can get champagne rooms for $100/4/10min that gives me an amazing two way contact audition to see if we enjoy each other.

Was thinking about $200-$300 every other week to strongly establish my reputation.

I'm doing Friday's and Saturday's right now to look at the full menu of girls the club has

I do agree that a weekday is best near the end of the month to pull one for the mortgage payment

I've actually got a OTC bankroll I plan to keep at minimum at $5,000 so I always got it ...these girls will hit you only when they truly need it

I could do one champagne with two or three girls each visit....that way they know I got it...they see me spending on several champagne room's...put no one is getting fat from me

That should set me up well for OTC with my current hoe roll and saving on top of that money.

I work at a club like that, except my club allows for decent mileage for lap dances. I agree with night shift, but not necessarily late. Since it's otc, girls see I as a plus to make enough to leave and be done for the night. I've seen girl who just arrived for night shift, throwing on their civic shoes to head out fast (could be for coke, I suppose tho). Also, the end of the month is not when strippers get desperate, it's beginning to the 5th, which is right before a lot of late fines lol. At my club, many girls just plain won't do it. I've never been offered less than 500 as an opening, and I don't do it. It makes me think that 500 at that sort of club, where the girls really don't do itc extras, but where there is decent enough mileage that girls can make good money, is a decent ammout to get one of the hotter girls who does do otc. I'd think that at a club where it's more strict, you could pay less, bc girls just don't make so much working normally.

That way ITc I'm spending, look like fun, able to get highly sexual in champagne room's thus making front room activities with catering meals from outside food joints...local club allows this because they lack a kitchen...ordering drinks and shots with the girl's

I should be solid in a few months with my reputation

Bj very good information thank you...it's nice to get a dancers view on this

A guy desperate to get laid makes an offer to a girl and offers her 2000. dollars for sex, easily she agrees to have sex with the guy. Now he offers the same girl 200. dollars for sex, and her response is "what kind of a girl do you think I am", now the reply is simple, "We know what kind of a girl you are how, much it costs is the only question." This is an old joke but it's still true.

LMFAO that joke reminds me of a counter offer I got three years ago at a clean Club

Offered $500 an this damn near 10 counter with I'm a hoe but a high end hoe so $3,000

@bj99 thanks for great info.

The non-extras clubs around here stay open to 2am or 4am, and don't let girls leave early, so you gotta be a real night owl to try for same-day OTC take out.

Juice, if you get friendly with the girls, and exchange phone numbers (need to have $30-$40 per month in your budget for your playah phone), you'll eventually get one of the "it's a slow tonight, please come see me" texts, or one of them will complain about their low $$$ on a slow night. You need to find the price point, in your local clubs, where doing a sure thing OTC date is more financially attractive than the risk of a slow night at work.

Either one is an opening for something like "I can't tonight, but if Tuesdays are usually slow, why don't you let me take you out next Tuesday and I'll give you what I'd normally spend on you at work, but you get to keep it all, and you won't have to work a full shift".

If you want to go to the club, say "I think I can stop by for a little bit", and just do a drink or two, and cheap floor dances (not a whole $100 CR). And then you can say above during conversation.

Don't say it all in one text, or conversation, but work it in naturally.

The ones who already do OTC will play along if they like you, or want your money, and every now and then a girl that has never done OTC will see the logic of the proposal.

That was back when I would make an offer and if they accepted I was flare broke lol...all I had to my name was that $500 LMFAO

@juice "Offered $500 an this damn near 10 counter with I'm a hoe but a high end hoe so $3,000"

I over heard a group of 6-7s at Oasis one night talking about escorting and throwing out numbers they would do it for like $1000, $1500, $2000 for a date, which based on the $40 or $50 they had in their garters at 2am is like me at 50+ yrs old hoping to get a 10-day contract from the Warriors (white men CAN jump, but only as high as our dicks are long).

Joc thanks mate..yeah I'm in one of those clubs wear they can't check out early or it's a very steep penalties of fees...so going at 12 or 1 am to snag one around closing 2am would work.

Most girls don't do floor dances but the one's that do offer $15 air...VIP is $25 one way touching.

I have thought since loving is decent stage side maybe I could just become a big tipper and never do dances period...I would probably really need to employee the buying of food and drinks St the table for extra time spent...believe it or not the club don't give to shits about snuggling on the main floor as long as your not touching the goods.

I have been curious if I could get away with that and still pull otc

I mean itc all I'm really trying to do is come off as fun, safe and got plenty of excessive cash to spend

What y'all think ?

Would be cheaper itc and allow more for otc

I'm sure I will need to experiment with these ideas

Joc LMFAO that was funny

The girls I know, who do otc, are good w drinks, and generous tipping (but nothing like dancing for that amt of time) itc. Actually, I think that's why some of them do otc. Bc they don't really excel at the lap dances and itc customer relationships.

I suggest you head over to Charlottesville Juice.

All hell's breaking loose over some confederate statutes.

Bj you do make a very interesting point to ponder...thanks love

War LMFAO brilliant

What would you consider generous tipping ?

Maybe once I see the girls I like tip a $10 ?

Then once back at the table buy drinks and snuggle to build repor to later bring up OTC fun after a few visits like this ?

Maybe make sure each girl I target gets $100 from me on stage with $10 at a time throughout the night

At my club, a 20 Ab every half hour- hour, and of course, letting them get their dances of a regular comes in, but they shouldn't bounce and go sit w him.

I've also consider being a seasonal regular based on a few Point's

One I could pick the season most strip clubs and strippers make the least and make that my inseason

During my off-season I could just save save save so I could make my image more wealthy when I spend in season

I actually like this idea a lot

It would help me keep my OTC hoe roll full and ready aka locked and loaded lol

It would also allow me to either Club once a week at $300 a trip in season or basically $600 every other week

I would definitely come off as loaded and could afford the high end price of otc fun with a 8 or better.

Bj not a bad idea since usually with rotation it takes the girls an hour to get in stage..I could tip a good $20 in singles and make her feel like a going hard in the paint...I like it...I also really enjoy the champagne room....I'm sure I might find a balance..we will see