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@skibum609 "Ideal relationship is a happy marriage."

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The title is the response from skibum609 to my question:
What would be your "Ideal Relationship Agreement" as in Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy.
The internet says:
"Historically marriage was not based on mutual love rather was an institution to acquire in-laws property and physical labor. But at the turn of the 20th century in America egalitarian ideals and the emerging Hollywood movie Industry burden marriages with promising romantic love for ever, congrats you get to have sex with the same person for the rest of your life."
It also points out:
"In the ancient ariscrotacies the wealthy men had courtesans for pleasure and concubines for quick sex"
We all know that in present tines rich wealthy powerful men still enjoy courtesans (high end call girls and escorts) and concubines (sugar babies and keep woman)
Like I said before those men know something we don't.
If you had the money wouldn't you enjoy the courtesans and concubines?

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gawker

Yup

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rh48hr

If I was married? No. But I'm not gonna get married again so if I had the money yes.

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Estafador

No. I want to know I'm screwing someone who isn't after me lucky charms. Besides, I get off on romance (just not movies).

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joc13

Yes, and I have been for the entire 30 years I've been married, and credit access to the courtesans and concubines for why the marriage HAS lasted 30 years.

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Jascoi

much cheaper and satisfying to rent the girl than marriage.

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Hugh_G_Rection

I think marriage has changed in recent generations: From a way of passing a woman as property of the Father to property of the husband from a way of giving her a huge percentage of her future hubbies earning power regardless of how it turns out. Face it, many women are gold diggers EOS

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RandomMember

"...a way of giving her a huge percentage of her future hubbies earning power regardless of how it turns out. "

You know, in the Ozzie & Harriet generation, women stayed at home and cleaned your socks. Believe it or not, women now have a role as wage earners. Something like 1/3 of lawyers are women now, for example. Might surprise you that the most powerful leader in Europe happens to be a woman. And we almost had a female president here, who would have been 10x more competent than the clown we elected (although that's not saying much).

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san_jose_guy

"Ideal relationship is a happy marriage."

No, the happy marriage is what is held up as an ideal. But in fact it is a means of social control and more often than not is horrid.

And then when it goes to exploiting children, it is barbaric and outside intervention is needed.

SJG

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Dominic77

I generally agree with the statement from "the legal one": the ideal relationship IS a happy marriage. :-)

The marriage being a happy one and it being a marriage, and not just cohabitation, I did read into and in fact also agree with. Though I never read farther into it from him that he was (exclusively) promoting traditional monogamy nor an ascetic lifestyle. But the central marriage is a cornerstone and the ideal.

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san_jose_guy

Should legal safeguards and escape valves be built in, and is it okay that children are sacrificed on the altar of marriage?

SJG

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