Just got back from the club, had some dancer try to sell me on otc laps for a bargain rate. I only know otc to mean one thing. Is she just trying to be subtle? Seems very PL. Will be looking into it anyway.
If you want OTC LDs then fine - if you want extras/sex then you are better off nailing down the details b/f you commit to anything, whether it's ITC or OTC
I once had a dancer offer dances outside the club. That was all. The second or third time she did get all nude but didn't want to do anything else even though we were at her place. If you want more and won't be happy with less, better discuss it before.
Didn't see your post. FYI, the girl I visited wasn't rushed or anything and she wanted to play around with me apparently but not go all the way until her boyfriend left.
She had to be the first stripper I met up with outside the club. I didn't know jack.
I've been doing OTC for 15 years on a regular basis (I travel a lot) and I have never had a stripper be vague or say "OTC lapdances" trying to be discreet when discussing any type of OTC arrangements.
You probably want to make the arrangements clear before you set up a date with this one.
A few years back I was in a club where lap dances were out in the open within a couple feet of everyone else in the bar. A very hot black dancer was sitting with me and I ended up getting 2 dances from her and we negotiated a deal $80, to go to her place for more privacy so she gets dressed and I follow her to a bad neighborhood on Cleveland's east side and I park behind her in her driveway.
It's around midnight and she makes a comment that it's a good thing that nobody was out to see us as we walk up the stairs to her apartment. Her sister was there but was sleeping and she closed the bedroom door and said we would have to be quiet as she turned the stereo on low and striped naked and I stripped to my boxers.
She starts dancing and grinding while i'm groping her and expecting that i'm going to get laid but she won't kiss other than a little peck and she barely lets me touch her pussy just a little light rubbing and she won't touch my grown boner. This continues until after around 20-30 minutes of trying to get things to progress I mention that I was expecting more than what we were doing and she said that she expected that all she was going to do was dance and she wasn't going to fuck even for more money.
We had an obvious miscommunication and I told her I was disappointed and didn't see any use in going on and she said OK. She gave me credit for the $20 I spent on dances in the bar and asked if another $40 was fair for her the time in her apartment and I was happy to pay her because even though I didn't get what I wanted $40 for half an hour of high contact nude dances with a hot body was a deal.
In hindsight I really pushed my luck that night as I followed a strange women to a strange apartment in the ghetto and had a disagreement with her at night and came out of it with no problem other than blue balls but then again it wasn't the first or last time that I've pushed my luck.
Lesson learned though, make sure you clarify what your expecting.
The first time a stripper ever offered me OTC was about 15 years ago at a club in my town. She offered to do dances for me in a hotel room. Even though I was clueless about OTC at the time, I knew she meant sex and I politely declined -- I was, at that point in my PL existence, not at all ready for sex with a stripper in a hotel room.
The financial benefit of otc private dances is that she gets to keep all of the money, and can see you when she doesn't want to work a full shift, and still make some money. the stage fee, tipping, and any fines, can take the majority of some girls' income. You can't expect more than dances if that's all she's saying, especially for the bargain rate.
If she talks to you like that, she is not doing anything wrong. But that is not a good way to go with her. If you want to see her outside, you take the lead and invite her. But make sure you have good intimate rapport with her before trying to set anything like that up.
I've had dancers be discreet over *text* where somebody might see, using "play" or "do a show" instead of "fuck," but in person, anybody who's *really* up for it will say it out loud at least once during discussion.
If the price is right, and you'd be happy enough with just dances, go for it, no expectations.
There's a chance that she's thinking about a little more than just dances, but that chance is probably low.
Personally, for the same price, I'd much rather go to her place, or a hotel, and take my chances on being able to at least get my pants off for the dances (it's always a little risky / awkward to be sitting in these open rooms most clubs around here have with your cock out)....
Some of my OTC experiences have started out as just lap dances before either after the dance or the next time just offer her more money for something extra so usually take the deal when she's comfortable with you and realizes you're not a cop or a rapist
I love OTC lap dances. I don't need to fuck to enjoy her. Plus it's far cheaper and more garunteed to happen than extra OTC. I got a VIP experience for an hour for $80.
Heck I don't know about the rest of you, but I always make it a mission to get OTC lappers. More likely to get a better dance and her number and do so whenever you're both in the mood Even late at night.
Estafador, usually if a guy is going to set up an outside meeting, he will make it into a standard escort session, you know, GFE-FS, MSOG, etc.
Lap dances are really a gimick invented in strip clubs, when they went to booths. The booth lets the house take a deeper cut.
Lap dancing used to mean lap sitting, in the front room, and that was nice, and cost effective. You just engaged with the girl like you'd just met her at a party. How things would go would vary widely.
Lap dancing in booths was a way for the house to get a deeper cut, while the girls always stay in the driver's seat.
And then to consider this, OTC? Why not just an ordinary escort session, treating your girl like a civilian all the way?
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She had to be the first stripper I met up with outside the club. I didn't know jack.
You probably want to make the arrangements clear before you set up a date with this one.
As mentioned in a previous thread, I try to not tell people that they're having fun wrong.
It's around midnight and she makes a comment that it's a good thing that nobody was out to see us as we walk up the stairs to her apartment. Her sister was there but was sleeping and she closed the bedroom door and said we would have to be quiet as she turned the stereo on low and striped naked and I stripped to my boxers.
She starts dancing and grinding while i'm groping her and expecting that i'm going to get laid but she won't kiss other than a little peck and she barely lets me touch her pussy just a little light rubbing and she won't touch my grown boner. This continues until after around 20-30 minutes of trying to get things to progress I mention that I was expecting more than what we were doing and she said that she expected that all she was going to do was dance and she wasn't going to fuck even for more money.
We had an obvious miscommunication and I told her I was disappointed and didn't see any use in going on and she said OK. She gave me credit for the $20 I spent on dances in the bar and asked if another $40 was fair for her the time in her apartment and I was happy to pay her because even though I didn't get what I wanted $40 for half an hour of high contact nude dances with a hot body was a deal.
In hindsight I really pushed my luck that night as I followed a strange women to a strange apartment in the ghetto and had a disagreement with her at night and came out of it with no problem other than blue balls but then again it wasn't the first or last time that I've pushed my luck.
Lesson learned though, make sure you clarify what your expecting.
SJG
There's a chance that she's thinking about a little more than just dances, but that chance is probably low.
Personally, for the same price, I'd much rather go to her place, or a hotel, and take my chances on being able to at least get my pants off for the dances (it's always a little risky / awkward to be sitting in these open rooms most clubs around here have with your cock out)....
Lap dances are really a gimick invented in strip clubs, when they went to booths. The booth lets the house take a deeper cut.
Lap dancing used to mean lap sitting, in the front room, and that was nice, and cost effective. You just engaged with the girl like you'd just met her at a party. How things would go would vary widely.
Lap dancing in booths was a way for the house to get a deeper cut, while the girls always stay in the driver's seat.
And then to consider this, OTC? Why not just an ordinary escort session, treating your girl like a civilian all the way?
Pick the girl you would like to do that with.
SJG