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Sanctuary Cities

Tiredtraveler
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Has anyone notices the hypocrisy of the sanctuary cities? These are the same cities that have passed outrageous minimum wage laws but have thousands of illegals the will work off the books for cash at below the national minimum wage.
If it is illegal to hire a illegal how do they earn a living and are "hard working and tax paying" like the media says?? It is a fact that illegals work under the table and only the wealthy or 'connected' can afford to risk hiring them. I have many friends who run businesses and ALL require documentation, Only the politically connected risk hiring illegals.
The ultra wealthy do-gooder hypocrite liberals just want their low wage 'off the books' slaves to clean their houses, pools, yards, paint their house and nanny their kids.

The rest of us wage payers can't get by with that because we live where the rule of law means something. To the left he rule of law means only applies to everybody else!

The left want the illegals there to eventually give them votes even though they do not have the rights to vote to increase their power base to allow further subjugation of the citizenry of the USA. The power brokers like Cuomo, HIllary, Lugar, Blassio, Bush, Obama, McConnell, Reid and Pelosi desire absolute control, and want subjects not citizens!

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twentyfive
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8 years ago
As opposed to what, letting the Russians come in and try to rig our elections, and destroy our judicial system. Buddy there is enough wrong on both sides try to follow the conversation and use a little common sense.
san_jose_guy
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8 years ago
Dianne Feinstein is too conservative to be taken that seriously. But I also feel that she is too old to be trying for another term.

https://outreach.senate.gov/iqextranet/v…

SJG

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san_jose_guy
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8 years ago
A fully modernized house, to me, means:

1. Minimize front set back, try to reduce front yard as much as possible. Try to put garage as close to street as possible, minimize driveway. So most of lot is for house and back yard.

2. Try to merge indoors with out doors, using that backyard and awnings.

3. As far as insulation and windows and energy efficiency, maybe some old versions were not that great, but new versions could be really nice. But it is for moderate climate and low humidity and low insect densities. I prefer no crawl space and patios over decks.

SJG
K
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8 years ago
A proper discussion of sanctuary cities is out of scope for this board but I'll point out that you are very wrong in why cities become sanctuary cities. There are other sites that provide good background information and discussion on both sides. I will mention two of the key reasons some cities become sanctuary cities is the federal government is trying to set local law enforcement priorities without providing training or funding.
gammanu95
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8 years ago
K, that is factually false. Sanctuary cities are those which refuse to adhere to long standing immigration laws regarding cooperation with ICE and similar federal entities. They do so to pander to their base (and thereby keep their hold on municipal offices), which is the second generation of illegal immigrant parents. That's why we need to ratify a constitutional amendment to strike that right to citizenship.
Illegal immigration is a crime. Each and every illegal immigrant is a criminal. The left has always been soft on crime. With regards to illegal immigration, they are not only being soft, they began to coddle and protect those criminals. Now they are actively encouraging, promoting, and rewarding criminals.
Yes, it is hypocrisy - a hallmark of the left.
K
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8 years ago
If it is factually false you can provide some evidence. Or is this just an opportunity to rant about liberals by assigning a Straw man ?
I k ow police officers that tell me they don't want to be in that business because they don't have the resources to do it. They don't want an illegal or stopping because they fear being arrested. They don't want illegals not reporting more serious crimes out of fear of being arrested.
As for my original claim, I am not going to type a full supporting discussion on my phone but Wikipedia has some links to various supporting sources in their article on sanctuary cities.
If you really wish to discuss it I'm willing but not if the discussion is attacks and straw man arguements.
twentyfive
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8 years ago
@k you are segueing with an idiot who is also an ideologue, there is no way to rationalize with him he is the same as SJG in so far as his mind is made up there is a real cognitive defect in these guys.
twentyfive
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8 years ago
^^^Segueing should have been arguing
gammanu95
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8 years ago
If illegals are cooperating in reporting crimes, then why are sanctuary cities the most violent and gang-plagued? Because that is a false argument, which is disproven with even a cursory examination.
Your defense of sanctuary cities remains factually false. Saying that the evidence is out there... somewhere...maybe Wikipedia... is tantamount to admitting the indefensibility of your claim.
Your description of sanctuary cities was erroneous. Your description of the objections such cities have was unintelligible. The argument your presented was pitiful. Yet you persist on these lies. Another liberal tactic: when the facts and the law are both against you, call the other guy names.
skibum609
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8 years ago
America has a moral right to be angry that anyone would interefere in our elections. The gall of these assholes. I mean it isn't Like Obama interfered in Israel's election because he was mad at Netanyahu. It isn't like he was in France last week interfering in their election Presidential election. It isn't like he went to Britain to interfere in the Brexit vote. Wikipedia as a source lol. The arguments regarding sanctuary cities are inane. If States don't follow Federal Laws, they shouldn't get Federal funds and if States can set their own illegals policy then Arizona's restrictive STATE law should never have been overturned by the Fed. Courts. It was of course nice to see that in Massachusetts, a judge gave leniency to someone eligible for deportation, specifically so that the illegal could stay and this pos was obviously worthy as all he did was murder two doctors last week. Sad. Anyone notice that America had a budget surplus last month? Anyone notice that illegals detained at the border dropped 15% last month? Thought not.
twentyfive
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8 years ago
"America has a moral right to be angry that anyone would interefere in our elections. The gall of these assholes. I mean it isn't Like Obama interfered in Israel's election because he was mad at Netanyahu. It isn't like he was in France last week interfering in their election Presidential election. It isn't like he went to Britain to interfere in the Brexit vote"

@Skidum if you would have stopped there I can't imagine reasonable people would be giving you any grief unfortunately you decided to go off on a right wing diatribe damn man can't you stay on your meds.
flagooner
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8 years ago
SJG actually had the most interesting post in this thread. I'm just surprised he didn't advocate optimizing the front room for make out sessions.
K
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8 years ago
twentyfive,
I will take your advice. From his comments it appears he has no idea what a sanctuary city is or how it differs from what some call a welcoming city. I learned much on some other sites and in discussions with some friends in law enforcement about this topic and it is no where near as simple as I once thought.
ime
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8 years ago
I am not really going to comment on Sanctuary cities because I don't know a lot of the specifics. But since it does relate to immigration the video I posted below is pretty interesting and some of you may have seen it. Pretty good way to actually visualize the world, poverty, and how it relates to the USA, he doesn't go into other countries really.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGCh…
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