First good lap dance
DrakeReinz
I'm 22 decent looking, on the shorter side at 5'8", have an athletic build and I'm clean. I've gone to strip clubs on about 10 different occasions. I've never gotten a lap dance before yesterday. My buddy payed a girl upfront and told me to go with her, so I wasn't about to turn him down. The dance was fine, I enjoyed it. I didn't want to get dances before because I felt like it was a waste of cash as a college student, and that I'd only feel empty and ridden with blue balls after. Well I wasn't wrong.
This was a night out for one of my friends. One guy tossed me a 20 to send him up on stage with the hottest girl there. So she thought I ditched out for him. As she walks by to come talk to us, my friend who was on stage got me a private dance with her. So this was my second lap dance, and she fucked me right up.
She started with a little small talk that lasted about 30 seconds, but she was workin it as she was talking. Once a fresh song came up she really went to work. She started by breathing on my neck and then kissing it. She unbuttoned the top buttons of my shirt and started kissing my chest and stroking my back underneath my shirt. She came back up to my neck, and licked me. She also nibbled a little. I guess I tasted good because she went back down to my chest to get another lick. Then she pulled up my shirt and started kissing, licking and nibbling right above my belt line. I ended up with a hickey on my neck that's still there.
The most intense part was when she was about an inch away from my lips with hers and she was breathing into my mouth. If that was any other girl I would have kissed her instantly, I would have known she wanted it. She was looking at me straight in the eyes with a "just do it already look". She repeated that scene 3 times and each event lasted about 10 seconds. They felt so long. She got completely naked, sat on top of me perpendicularly, and started masterbating on top of me as she was grinding. She did this for about 30 seconds. She later stroked my junk over my pants, talk about multitalented. She got me to slap her ass a couple times too.
When the dance was over she was straddling me. She looked at me with a smile and slapped me across the face, not hard, saying "that's it". I desperately wanted to go for another round, but I figured that I wanted to save my money to try more girls. She ended up being the only one that I wanted after that for the rest of the night. And I couldn't find her until 5 minutes before closing. I didn't know the club was closing and the dancers started rotating, so I thought she was going back on stage. Well I fucked up because she walked right passed me. I got a third dance that night with another girl, same as the first one, nothing too special.
This made me think that the second girl was into me, she was at least enjoying herself. I wasn't grabbing her hard. I was being very sensual and reciprocative to the way she was treating me. I was running my nail beds down her back, and squeezing her body when she would grind.
Now I need advice. Am I allowed to kiss a stripper if she acts that way with me? Looking back at it now I would have because the worst that would happen is that I have to explain that I misunderstood. And is it ok if I place my hand on top of hers while she's masturbating? I'm not touching her cooch, so? And if she's licking me, can I lick her back? I wanted to lick her nips so bad.
I definitely feel like I fucked up an opportunity. She gave me the most erotic experience I've ever had in my life. I've only been with 2 girls before and I've never felt that way about either of them. Obviously I'm just lustful, but I definitely want to see her again.
Should I go back and find this girl? Do you think she would even remember me? Is this normal behaviour for these girls? I know she's in it to make money, but I have a hard time thinking that she treats all her customers like that. It really felt like we had a connection. Or maybe she's just REALLY good at her job. And how do I go about getting her number, Snapchat or whatever she uses? I think I found my favourite girl and I don't want to go unless she's performing. If I do go see her should I buy another dance and see if it compares? Or should I not pay for her if I've got any chance of seeing this girl outside of the club.
I appreciate the feedback, thanks.
This was a night out for one of my friends. One guy tossed me a 20 to send him up on stage with the hottest girl there. So she thought I ditched out for him. As she walks by to come talk to us, my friend who was on stage got me a private dance with her. So this was my second lap dance, and she fucked me right up.
She started with a little small talk that lasted about 30 seconds, but she was workin it as she was talking. Once a fresh song came up she really went to work. She started by breathing on my neck and then kissing it. She unbuttoned the top buttons of my shirt and started kissing my chest and stroking my back underneath my shirt. She came back up to my neck, and licked me. She also nibbled a little. I guess I tasted good because she went back down to my chest to get another lick. Then she pulled up my shirt and started kissing, licking and nibbling right above my belt line. I ended up with a hickey on my neck that's still there.
The most intense part was when she was about an inch away from my lips with hers and she was breathing into my mouth. If that was any other girl I would have kissed her instantly, I would have known she wanted it. She was looking at me straight in the eyes with a "just do it already look". She repeated that scene 3 times and each event lasted about 10 seconds. They felt so long. She got completely naked, sat on top of me perpendicularly, and started masterbating on top of me as she was grinding. She did this for about 30 seconds. She later stroked my junk over my pants, talk about multitalented. She got me to slap her ass a couple times too.
When the dance was over she was straddling me. She looked at me with a smile and slapped me across the face, not hard, saying "that's it". I desperately wanted to go for another round, but I figured that I wanted to save my money to try more girls. She ended up being the only one that I wanted after that for the rest of the night. And I couldn't find her until 5 minutes before closing. I didn't know the club was closing and the dancers started rotating, so I thought she was going back on stage. Well I fucked up because she walked right passed me. I got a third dance that night with another girl, same as the first one, nothing too special.
This made me think that the second girl was into me, she was at least enjoying herself. I wasn't grabbing her hard. I was being very sensual and reciprocative to the way she was treating me. I was running my nail beds down her back, and squeezing her body when she would grind.
Now I need advice. Am I allowed to kiss a stripper if she acts that way with me? Looking back at it now I would have because the worst that would happen is that I have to explain that I misunderstood. And is it ok if I place my hand on top of hers while she's masturbating? I'm not touching her cooch, so? And if she's licking me, can I lick her back? I wanted to lick her nips so bad.
I definitely feel like I fucked up an opportunity. She gave me the most erotic experience I've ever had in my life. I've only been with 2 girls before and I've never felt that way about either of them. Obviously I'm just lustful, but I definitely want to see her again.
Should I go back and find this girl? Do you think she would even remember me? Is this normal behaviour for these girls? I know she's in it to make money, but I have a hard time thinking that she treats all her customers like that. It really felt like we had a connection. Or maybe she's just REALLY good at her job. And how do I go about getting her number, Snapchat or whatever she uses? I think I found my favourite girl and I don't want to go unless she's performing. If I do go see her should I buy another dance and see if it compares? Or should I not pay for her if I've got any chance of seeing this girl outside of the club.
I appreciate the feedback, thanks.
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@Shailynn what's wrong with being young and a virgin?
Wait until you're older or married to blow money on strippers.
SJG
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=4…
If you think you couldn't "get her" out of the club as a civilian, you're not going to "get her" in the club. You are a cash register to be rung. She is selling a fantasy, which you are free to purchase for short periods of time.
My advice -- club when you are bored with internet porn. Do not obsess over this or any other stripper. Focus on connecting with females wherever you happen to be and treat them all like queens -- the one that treats you like a king in return is your keeper.
If you think you can hold it together, go back by yourself the same time of week. She is likely to be there, most girls work a regular schedule. Although many do love to give themselves the day off. She's likely to at least give you the same experience.
As for the kissing, if her mouth is close like that you can lean forward and put your mouth on hers. Either she will kiss you or pull away. Question answered.
Some strippers do fuck customers, but it's rare. I would not go in expecting it.
I agree fully with that statement. But I am not sure that I am taking it the same way its author is.
I say, always always always treat all women as civilians. Never talk to them like you think they sell sex or sex acts, or can be persuaded to do things by money.
Money is just a show of respect, like saying to her, "Until you are my wife I want to make sure that your rent is getting paid."
So if you and she click, that will be obvious in the front room. Best is a full on makeout session. Save booths and back rooms until needed. Usually this is when your pants are to come down.
You can be feeding her money, but again that is just a show of respects for that fact that this is how she pays her bills. It really is not a P4P situation.
And then once you have engaged with her like that, expect that you will soon be waking up with her in the mornings, like maybe starting the next morning.
On the other hand, if the girls does not like you, thinks she is better than you, you want to surface that as soon as possible and disengage with her.
SJG
Debussy, Taiwan Symphony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftpqlHH7…
in the context of it being free - many strippers fuck custies for $$$ all the time though (trying not to confuse the newbie)
If you gotta ask what to do w/ a stripper; then you are not ready to be w/ one
It is also the times. I think what it comes down to is cell phones and caller id. Women used to be much more careful with phone numbers. So mostly strip clubs were just an ITC experience.
But now, women being very loose with phone numbers, once you have hers she is potentially what ever you want her to be. So at least in some quarters, like out underground Mexican Bar circuit, OTC is just about universal.
If it is what you want, it is not for me, but if you are straight with her and willing to get involved with her, she can be gotten off of the clock.
But then how free is free, and remember that you are speaking to someone who went through a long and very difficult marriage.
I will just add that in the organization I am working to build, things will be very different, separating from the Marriage - Prostitution System, though the women are very well taken care of long term.
SJG
They just make a guy feel like a king. And they are able to do this because they are open and non-judgmental.
They do this for so many guys too.
So there really shouldn't by anything especially broken about strippers. There is not anything wrong about giving guys what they want, or about earning a living that way.
That they session with guys who look down upon them, that obviously is going to take an emotional toll.
But as I have seen, in the Mexican culture, prostitution is more gentile.
So though it may or may not be like this in other venues, I think that when we partake, we should bring our best selves to it.
I always treat all women completely like civilians, and in all situations.
SJG
In my opinion most of the people here have no idea what they are doing, letting girls wrap them around their fingers and ring them like a cash register.
Listen to Jestrite50, he is the master womanizer. This girl you have meet, she could end up being your regular bed partner, if that is what you want.
But you have to learn to see that letting girls sell you dances is the chumps way.
SJG
Hey, you're supposed to be at least 18yo before they let you into a strip club.
Did your mom write you a special permission note?
SJG
But people still use it other ways, like with women they see regularly, what in other countries would be called "mistresses".
Drake, if you want to civilianize this girl, or make her into a kind of a mistress, go for it. Totally up to you. But most women who are bought and paid for from strip clubs will always be using you like an ATM machine.
Really it is between you and she, and most of all whether or not you are treating her as anything less than other women.
Good Luck,
SJG
I don't have any links to send you to but if you go to my profile page and click on my comments and read them in context with GFE discussions you will see what i mean. Talk to this girl. See if she's up to going out to dinner before work or breakfast after work. YOU PAY THE CHECK. Spend some time with her tell her how you feel about her. See if she's up to dating.
You just need to treat this girl right. She is there for a reason. She is broken. She really doesn't want to be there. She needs some love and care and understanding. Just treat her with respect, complement her on her good looks. Put your arm around her. Hold her tight like you really care about her and want her. That's how I start with them. You have to be serious though no bullshit just to get in their pants. I truly care about my girls and help them when they need help according to the need. You may not be able to afford much now explain that to her but showing her you care and can be someone to talk to may be what she needs most.
PM me with questions please. This is not the place for that really.
Don't listen to her. She does not speak for heterosexual women.
But know though, most of the guys who walk into strip clubs are idiots.
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The true reality is that 99% of the time she's doing whatever she feels she needs to do (physically) to get more money out of you. The only thing that she's into is your wallet. It really is that simple.
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Inside the club she is doing her job. But outside, if you are not treating her like a prostitute, then probably not.
Second, Jestrite is an experienced womanizer who keeps women in various places to suit his travel needs. He pays them, not for sex, but mistress maintenance. He talks about this as GFE, but this is not the original meaning of GFE. It is intended for talking about straight P4P. He isn't doing this. People adapt the meanings of words to suit their own needs.
Third, most of the time it is not very hard to get the dancers from strip clubs off of the clock, just so long as you never treat them like prostitutes. Most of them love it if a guy treats them just like any other woman, and wants an ordinary relationship. Getting the girl into your own bed, totally off the clock, usually will not be that hard.
Now someone like Jestrite is not really going to do this because he is seeing lots of women.
But if you want an ordinary and monogamous relationship with this one, it could well come to be. But ask yourself about the work hours and lifestyle differences issues.
And, this does not mean that making the relationship with her work will be easy. Most of the time women are afraid of getting their feelings hurt. So often times to avoid this, they bare their claws and strike first. So you've got to be ready.
As yourself, "Why would I want a relationship with a stripper."
I feel that there are lots of legitimate answers, but I don't know yet where you are coming from.
Good Luck
SJG
Erik Satie: Things Seen to the Right and the Left
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LYRufaW…
I don't pretend to speak for straight women. But I do know a HELLUVA lot more about women in general and strippers in particular than you do, and that's a fact. And for you to post here with your incoherent gibberish about experiences that you've never had and give really REALLY bad and wrong advice to a rookie is very irresponsible. You are not doing anyone a favor here with your long winded diatribes about circumstances that you have created in your mind.
Do us a favor and just stop.
They only become other than that when guys treat them as something other than ordinary girls.
Since I don't do that, I see a side of them that many others don't.
SJG
Assume the worst and hope for the best.
That's the goal, except for the hope part. I'm going in blind. The only way to get hurt in this world is to have hope. I'm going in without any commitment. I'm simply examining an option and I've got a plan. I'm not saying it's a good plan, but it's a plan that will keep me safe. Happiness is the correlation between expectation and reality. As long as your expectations never overcome your reality, you're happy. So I'm going in without any expectations. The worst that happens is I lose gas money, a little bit of booze money and money for a dance. I've been talking to people to know what to expect from her if she's not interested. I'm putting up walls so I don't get hurt. I do really appreciate the concern, and thanks for helping me realize that this will likely flop.
So many hopefuls go in balls-to-the-wall with no foot in reality and get stomped on both financially and emotionally.
Good luck to you. Hope everything works out.
Also - if she can be so into you after just meeting you *once* in a damn strip-club; then you should be able to have the same luck outside of the strip-club w/ civvies since you potentially have the "it factor" (being facetious actually) - I mean that as another simple rule-of-thumb; if one can't get w/ hot babes like that just as easily outside the club w/ civvies then it does not pass mustard that one will be able to bag a babe like that after having met her one time in a strip-club.
Just giving you the stats but stats are not perfect - at least you seem to know that it can all be BS (or SS = Stripper Shit as we call-it around-here) and seems you have not bought in fully hook-line-and-sinker into the SS.
Yeah - some newbs find out they have bitten off more than they can chew (often times drama and dysfunctionality on steroids) - but carry-on and fight the good fight
oh, and the rapper drake, who i'm 95 percent sure you made your username after.........is not that good. but he's canadian and so are you...........so i guess that's why you like him. :-)
You have the right attitude to have. Keep your expectations low and just have fun with the whole ordeal. Good luck!
She got married to another guy who was a friend of a guy I knew about 3 months later. I got an occasional bootie call after that. 3 years later she divorced him and I never saw her again. Even though that was the agreement, I heard he was heartbroken when she left.