I had this 1 stripper I knew make out with me and it was intense during the lap dance ! She knew me and I was always nice to her and would buy her a teddy bear here and there and that's when the kissing started
Some strippers will increase their level of service as they get you on the hook (or as they trust you more depending on your point of view). This is evidently an activity she feels comfortable with that she thinks is likely to keep you coming back. I doubt the bears have any bearing on the matter. Personally I would avoid the bears, if she thinks you are in love with her, she is really gone tighten the screws.
I avoid gifts. In my view - gifts can make dancers feel as though you might be in love. I find it creepy.
She may have thought it was cute - and kissed you as a sweet reward. I could be wrong - but I would not stock up on stuffed animals - as it was probably a one time thing.
Get her to makeout with you in the front room, before agreeing to the back room. Save the back room until it is really needed, like when your own pants are going to come down.
At 1 SC in my city that targets rich white business men, I get DFK no worse ratio than 1 out of 2 strippers. Its has been as good at 5 out of 6 DFKed in 1 night. DFK is basically minimum service level. I doubled the amount of women I made out with in my life in 1 night. But this SC has no VIP room, so its high DFK rate is pointless.
At my urban ratchet SC, DFK is rare. AA customers don't want or expect intimacy from "hoes" see https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3… . VIP rooms are dirt cheap so I put up with all of the things I hate about my urban SC. Kissing/making out is like finding unicorns. Took 7 months of weekly visits to find the first stripper to make out. I sometimes suspect if the SC manager, who treats me like I am a high roller (Im not, $100 a week, but I wear fine suits), told all the strippers to "treat me good" at some point, which means the rules don't apply for ME, and I can treat the place like a brothel, but the strippers can't do what they do with ME, with random PLs or they will be fired. One week after I first kissed a stripper, the SC manager gave me a VIP entry card to the SC. I wonder if he reviewed the tape and made that decision.
There seems to be a formula for making out at my SC. All strippers say you can't touch their pussy if you ask them. I've stopped asking anymore where I can touch them.
My system now is, I get a semi private LD, then when her position is correct, I slowly move my hand up her thigh to her kitty, or down her stomach to her kitty and *over* her bottoms lightly touch her kitty. I dont surprise her, she has a chance to move my hand or grab it and reposition it or block my hand. If she lets me touch her covered pussy, VIP room is a go.
If kitty touching doesn't work in semi-private, I'll try to bring my face close to theirs. If we touch noses 2 or more times, I'll try a lip kiss. A "no" kissing answer is, either the stripper will immediately lean back, and put her finger on my lips, and shake her head and continue to grind, or she will turn her head and make me stare at her cheek or ear or rest her head on my shoulder so I can only kiss her hair behind her ear. If she "stores" my face on her neck, I'll try a neck kiss in a few seconds, and go upto her ear and back to her lips. If wetness on her neck or ear makes her lean away from me, or switch to air dance, the answer is "no kissing". Sometimes the body language is confusing, she wants your kiss, but is afraid of anyone seeing it in semi-private LD, so she lifts her face away and smiles at you, but doesn't take any steps to really block you from trying to kiss her again (store your face on her neck, goto reverse cowgirl, lean back 2 feet from your face). Going to VIP is the only way to find out. YOU (or I) have to make the first move to get a kiss. In my urban SC, it will surprise the stripper. There is nothing that you can do about it. Dont ever ask a stripper if she will kiss, the answer is always NO. If you need to ask, you are a creep (made this mistake myself once). Women/strippers think "real men" are "so seducted" by the stripper/herself, they can't help but be animals on her. Real men dont ask if they can kiss, they just go for it like in a non-XXX movie.
Not every stripper is a SW stripper. Some strippers did/do backpage, some strippers did paid OTC at one point, some strippers are or did or were escorts or pornstars. They DID make out with random men. If you put a escort or pornstar in a "clean" SC, they will forget the rules of the clean SC and DFK you or let you DATY them, since they do that with other "customers" and random men in their past and they have no moral problems doing it with you.
Dressing very good, shaving, mouthwash/brush teeth is also part of the equation. DO NOT reveal too much about yourself before asking for LDs or VIP, or her getting to the point that she offers you LDs. You do NOT want her to judge you as "poor" before the LD. Some strippers make a "mistake" and make out with me, thinking I am a financial trader, and will offer $100s per hour for OTC afterwards or a sugar baby thing. I never do. Once they VHM made out with me, the physical rules of the ITC relationship is set up. They know if they offer less on a VIP trip than on the 1st ever VIP, I will drop them. After the 1st VHM VIP trip, I can reveal more about myself and ask more about them and see if OTC is possible.
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She may have thought it was cute - and kissed you as a sweet reward. I could be wrong - but I would not stock up on stuffed animals - as it was probably a one time thing.
SJG
At my urban ratchet SC, DFK is rare. AA customers don't want or expect intimacy from "hoes" see https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3… . VIP rooms are dirt cheap so I put up with all of the things I hate about my urban SC. Kissing/making out is like finding unicorns. Took 7 months of weekly visits to find the first stripper to make out. I sometimes suspect if the SC manager, who treats me like I am a high roller (Im not, $100 a week, but I wear fine suits), told all the strippers to "treat me good" at some point, which means the rules don't apply for ME, and I can treat the place like a brothel, but the strippers can't do what they do with ME, with random PLs or they will be fired. One week after I first kissed a stripper, the SC manager gave me a VIP entry card to the SC. I wonder if he reviewed the tape and made that decision.
There seems to be a formula for making out at my SC. All strippers say you can't touch their pussy if you ask them. I've stopped asking anymore where I can touch them.
My system now is, I get a semi private LD, then when her position is correct, I slowly move my hand up her thigh to her kitty, or down her stomach to her kitty and *over* her bottoms lightly touch her kitty. I dont surprise her, she has a chance to move my hand or grab it and reposition it or block my hand. If she lets me touch her covered pussy, VIP room is a go.
If kitty touching doesn't work in semi-private, I'll try to bring my face close to theirs. If we touch noses 2 or more times, I'll try a lip kiss. A "no" kissing answer is, either the stripper will immediately lean back, and put her finger on my lips, and shake her head and continue to grind, or she will turn her head and make me stare at her cheek or ear or rest her head on my shoulder so I can only kiss her hair behind her ear. If she "stores" my face on her neck, I'll try a neck kiss in a few seconds, and go upto her ear and back to her lips. If wetness on her neck or ear makes her lean away from me, or switch to air dance, the answer is "no kissing". Sometimes the body language is confusing, she wants your kiss, but is afraid of anyone seeing it in semi-private LD, so she lifts her face away and smiles at you, but doesn't take any steps to really block you from trying to kiss her again (store your face on her neck, goto reverse cowgirl, lean back 2 feet from your face). Going to VIP is the only way to find out. YOU (or I) have to make the first move to get a kiss. In my urban SC, it will surprise the stripper. There is nothing that you can do about it. Dont ever ask a stripper if she will kiss, the answer is always NO. If you need to ask, you are a creep (made this mistake myself once). Women/strippers think "real men" are "so seducted" by the stripper/herself, they can't help but be animals on her. Real men dont ask if they can kiss, they just go for it like in a non-XXX movie.
Not every stripper is a SW stripper. Some strippers did/do backpage, some strippers did paid OTC at one point, some strippers are or did or were escorts or pornstars. They DID make out with random men. If you put a escort or pornstar in a "clean" SC, they will forget the rules of the clean SC and DFK you or let you DATY them, since they do that with other "customers" and random men in their past and they have no moral problems doing it with you.
Dressing very good, shaving, mouthwash/brush teeth is also part of the equation. DO NOT reveal too much about yourself before asking for LDs or VIP, or her getting to the point that she offers you LDs. You do NOT want her to judge you as "poor" before the LD. Some strippers make a "mistake" and make out with me, thinking I am a financial trader, and will offer $100s per hour for OTC afterwards or a sugar baby thing. I never do. Once they VHM made out with me, the physical rules of the ITC relationship is set up. They know if they offer less on a VIP trip than on the 1st ever VIP, I will drop them. After the 1st VHM VIP trip, I can reveal more about myself and ask more about them and see if OTC is possible.