For me lap dancing is not that big of a deal; sure I like to see them dancing on me but it's not the focus of my visit and often times I don't pay much attention to it because im to bizzy working on OTC
I don't have a big need for the girl to be performing that sort of a service upon me. Not interested in dry humping or LDKing.
I like to feel them up, when they are on their feet. But this is best done when the girl is stationary.
So I like titties and pussy in my face. And I like the girl on my lap for a makeout session.
When Lap Dancing started, at MBOT. It meant a girl sitting on your lap, and for around a $1 per minute.
So you could lead it. How far it could go depended on things between you and the girl.
But LE still tried to criminalize it. So that it was done in the front room, audience participation theater, and not for sexual gratification, was the defense. Some girls would kiss and some would allow digital vaginal and even digital anal penetration. But with some it was just titty fondling.
So it was after these legal battles that back rooms were invented. Lap dancing is mostly a way for the girl to keep it in her control. And also for the LDK people.
As I see it, it is a chumps game, and I have said so repeatedly.
Girl on my lap for a makeout session any day over being on her feet and grinding me.
Titties in face is good, as is pussy in face. Some girls are good at this in a lap dance context too.
But on my lap for a makeout session is always best. It has to be started with her slow and easy, and with some talk to relax both people.
I've been explaining this for over a year, ever since I first registered. I think people are finally starting to understand. And you 72_os are the first to post something inviting this sort of discussion.
Preliminary lap sitting and makeout session does not preclude sex in the VIP Room. Actually it just about guarantees that it will be better.
But if you let a girl "sell dances" to you, then probably she won't really open up to you. So even if you get her to agree to FS, it won't be as good as if initiated with a front room makeout session.
The issue is when she comes up and says, "wanna dance", what do you say. I say that you must politely refuse. Best if you pick the girl, instead of she picking you. That still carries a lot of weight. But then get her onto your lap. You can still be feeding her money, and it should be better as there won't be a house cut.
Then when it is needed, like when your pants are to come down, you invite her to the back room. Then after that you just see her OTC.
The chumps game is the 'extras' approach, totally focused on the girl performing a service upon you, instead of just opening up to you and letting you "have your way with her".
On $10 Monday and $10 Tuesday, you warm up with a dance or two and discuss level and price of service. Well, that's how it is at the nicer places in Inkster Michigan.
I think you just talk alot of Shit that you know nothing about in real life
SJG writes: "As I see it, it is a chumps game, and I have said so repeatedly." -- That's for sure!
and he continues: "I've been explaining this for over a year, ever since I first registered." -- Also too true!
It doesn't get more interesting from repetition ad infinitum.
I'd vote for a fucking progressive before i'd do OTC. I go to a casino to play poker, the golf course to play golf, jackson hole to ski and strip clubs for naked women.
72_os, they is very important to me :)
After 20+ years of strip clubbing, I'm still not an OTC guy and I still fucking *love* lap dances. However, unlike skibum, I can't imagine circumstances in which I would vote for a fucking progressive, so if my only choices in life were to vote left or do OTC . . . I would have to do my first OTC! A man has to stick to his principles, you know.
Unlike 72_os, I go to the club for the lap dances, not OTC stalking (although I'm always interested in OTC if I see a girl who strikes my fancy). I like my regulars and my CF's company and them grinding on my hard cock is well worth the money to me.
I find lap dances useless, for the most part. In the alcohol clubs I go to, I haven't done a lapdance in years -- the lapdance areas are open and tightly bouncer-patrolled, so always low mileage even with a (relatively) higher mileage girl. VIPs only.
Occasionally, I do lapdances in the extras clubs, where I'll typically only do a single one -- first half of the dance, finding out how hot she makes me, second half, discussing the extras session to immediately follow
My post on Shadowcat's thread about ejaculation, offered as a reply to Mr. LDK and any others who go to strip clubs to "bust a nut".
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
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I like to feel them up, when they are on their feet. But this is best done when the girl is stationary.
So I like titties and pussy in my face. And I like the girl on my lap for a makeout session.
When Lap Dancing started, at MBOT. It meant a girl sitting on your lap, and for around a $1 per minute.
So you could lead it. How far it could go depended on things between you and the girl.
But LE still tried to criminalize it. So that it was done in the front room, audience participation theater, and not for sexual gratification, was the defense. Some girls would kiss and some would allow digital vaginal and even digital anal penetration. But with some it was just titty fondling.
So it was after these legal battles that back rooms were invented. Lap dancing is mostly a way for the girl to keep it in her control. And also for the LDK people.
As I see it, it is a chumps game, and I have said so repeatedly.
Girl on my lap for a makeout session any day over being on her feet and grinding me.
Titties in face is good, as is pussy in face. Some girls are good at this in a lap dance context too.
But on my lap for a makeout session is always best. It has to be started with her slow and easy, and with some talk to relax both people.
I've been explaining this for over a year, ever since I first registered. I think people are finally starting to understand. And you 72_os are the first to post something inviting this sort of discussion.
Thanks!
SJG
Completely agree and thank you mang
Everything can be had at the table then sex at the motel for ultimate privacy
But if you let a girl "sell dances" to you, then probably she won't really open up to you. So even if you get her to agree to FS, it won't be as good as if initiated with a front room makeout session.
The issue is when she comes up and says, "wanna dance", what do you say. I say that you must politely refuse. Best if you pick the girl, instead of she picking you. That still carries a lot of weight. But then get her onto your lap. You can still be feeding her money, and it should be better as there won't be a house cut.
Then when it is needed, like when your pants are to come down, you invite her to the back room. Then after that you just see her OTC.
The chumps game is the 'extras' approach, totally focused on the girl performing a service upon you, instead of just opening up to you and letting you "have your way with her".
SJG
On $10 Monday and $10 Tuesday, you warm up with a dance or two and discuss level and price of service. Well, that's how it is at the nicer places in Inkster Michigan.
I think you just talk alot of Shit that you know nothing about in real life
and he continues: "I've been explaining this for over a year, ever since I first registered." -- Also too true!
It doesn't get more interesting from repetition ad infinitum.
After 20+ years of strip clubbing, I'm still not an OTC guy and I still fucking *love* lap dances. However, unlike skibum, I can't imagine circumstances in which I would vote for a fucking progressive, so if my only choices in life were to vote left or do OTC . . . I would have to do my first OTC! A man has to stick to his principles, you know.
Occasionally, I do lapdances in the extras clubs, where I'll typically only do a single one -- first half of the dance, finding out how hot she makes me, second half, discussing the extras session to immediately follow
https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…
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