For those of you who have done OTC......once u do OTC with a certain woman do you still continue to go see her and get dances from her at the club or does OTC kill any more interaction with her inside the club?
Many of the girls get possessive very rapidly.
I had a fav and we met a couple of times for drinks etc. and the next time I showed up at the club she wanted exclusive attention from me. I changed clubs and did not call her again.
I continue to see girls ITC even if we play outside. I think it's hot to see other PLs lusting after the woman I'm fucking. Plus I love the club atmosphere, and I get to play with her friends too.
One OTC gal just wanted to meet up in a hotel room and I never saw her in the club after the first OTC encounter. With the other regular I had, the OTC was the exception as we continued to do our thing ITC.
The inside/outside experiences enhance each other. So it makes me enjoy seeing her the club more, not less. By the same token, when a girl quits stripping, I lose interest in seeing her OTC.
Depends. If it's strictly a fuck for money scenario, I'll probably not see her again ITC, except maybe to say hi, or to see who else might be willing.
My ATF and the MILF are exceptions. I used to come into the ATF's club *just* to see her. I'd buy a drink for her and she'd waste time with me avoiding the day time straggler cheap asses and before the night time spenders came in.
As for the MILF, she still hasn't taken any money from me outside, but she doesn't seem to mind when I come into the club and spend on her, even though it's a fraction of what I've had ready for her every time since the first time.
I only OTC with a regular girl who I've seen a while, and I absolutely continue seeing her ITC and bouncing back and forth between the two. I love being in the club with her (which is why we went OTC in the first place), I find our ITC gets hotter in the afterglow of OTC experiences, etc.
It can be especially fun if you can get her to have a date with you otc after she gets off her shift. Then you play with her ITC and otc on the same day.
Yep, I love that. She gets me all crazy horny in the club, and we fuck it off OTC. The anticipation makes the ITC part excruciating, and the excitement makes the OTC part incredible.
My experience with OTC has been I only see them a few times (less than maybe 5 times, I'd say on average) and I get tired of them and I want to try something new.
So then I'm back in the club's seeing if I can get another one to agree to see me OTC.
When you explain it to them that the money is all theirs (no house fees, no tip out, etc, etc) and the relaxed athmosphere of a nice hotel room with whatever they want to drink, (provided for them..ie no cost to them) it becomes easier and easier it seems to get SC girls to agree to it.
But, it does take a little while to gain their trust sometimes, which is understandable... But if you are a regular at a oarticular club, and many people know you, it lets their guard down a lot, I've found.
And once I'm done OTC with them, I don't ever see them ITC again.
On to fresh new ones... lol.
@warhawks: You mention the drinks. Most of the girls I've taken out, when they want anything at all, want Patron or Muscato or some shit like that. One of my favorites just wanted a six pack of MGD. :)
It's not as easy for me, a traveling man, as girls may not remember me on my repeat visits making building a rapport (aka trust) difficult.
Strangely most of the girls I have done OTC with in the last 2 years I typically don't see again in the club. Most still work there they just don't typically work that coveted friday or Saturday night shift. I often purposely lose their numbers so it forces me to go out to the clubs to have some fun versus just taking the easy out and calling them to my hotel room.
In the rare occasion where I meet someone I really like and develop a relationship, when I am in town I will go to the club, maybe have a drink with her and give her a small tip, then head out and meet up for OTC later. I no longer take up her time in the club which sometimes helped me get a free or reduced OTC rate. I can often tell the girls that want a relationship don't want to charge, the girls that just want money charge.
Had one a few years back that would give it up at the club for $50 for FS. Got her to do some OTC (which by the way was not all that great) for a few Benjamins for a couple of hours. Problem was after that she always wanted at least a c-note for just a bj in the club and wouldn't do FS in the club anymore, trying to get me to come over after her shift for more money that before, guess she got money drunk. Too bad, she was a lot of fun in the club.
Anouther dancer I knew was also an escort and used the SC club to build her client list, and once you saw her OTC she would get real possessive and tried to prevent other dancers from even talking to you (didn't want the competition I guess).
Once I see them OTC I continue to see them on that basis because they're worth it. I also see them ITC and usually get "special" attention from them. I had a 10+ year relationship with one dancer ("relationship" might not be the correct word...I saw her for sex only) that only ended because I moved to a different city. That progressed from seeing her in hotels to seeing her at her apartment. I never got tired of her because she stayed beautiful, tanned and toned.
I see two dancers OTC and I continue to see them ITC because they hook me up with free stuff and they tend to attract other dancers and even civilian girls my way. They do get possessive in weird ways, though.
I've only done OTC with my ATF. I had been seeing her ITC for a couple months before I got FS from her. The next week she quit stripping and I started seeing her regularly OTC.
On a related note, once you guys start regularly seeing a stripper in a VIP/champagne room, do you still get regular lap dances from her before going to the VIP room?
I almost always got 2-3 dances from my ATF before we would go to the VIP room. Even if I'm going to the VIP room for FS with a dancer that I have already gotten FS from in the VIP room on previous visits, I still get a few lap dances from her. It's a nice tease before the main event.
If i was seeing a dancer OTC I would still go see her ITC, although I would save my FS for only OTC. But it would be a nice to see her dancing on stage knowing I would get to fuck her OTC.
To me one of the best experiences is watching one of your favorites dance on stage while she gives you much more attention to you then the other PL's. One time one of my favorites was doing a three song set and after tipped her during the first couple songs I started getting up, she crawled over to me and said "as soon as I'm done I'm all yours". Obviously she gives FS to other guys and she only wants my money, but it never gets old hearing that.
"On a related note, once you guys start regularly seeing a stripper in a VIP/champagne room, do you still get regular lap dances from her before going to the VIP room?"
As long as the lap dances are worth it. I love lappers to get me all hot and bothered before the VIP. In one of the clubs I go to, the laps are super high contact, and I definitely will get one or two before the VIP. In another, the laps are a waste, and I just do VIPs there
I was dating this stripper once, and I came into her club on a slow Sunday night, no one was making any money that night. I got some dancers from my girl, and I have to say it was the hottest lap dances I've ever received. I think that was the only time I visited a dancer ITC after I had her OTC.
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I had a fav and we met a couple of times for drinks etc. and the next time I showed up at the club she wanted exclusive attention from me. I changed clubs and did not call her again.
My ATF and the MILF are exceptions. I used to come into the ATF's club *just* to see her. I'd buy a drink for her and she'd waste time with me avoiding the day time straggler cheap asses and before the night time spenders came in.
As for the MILF, she still hasn't taken any money from me outside, but she doesn't seem to mind when I come into the club and spend on her, even though it's a fraction of what I've had ready for her every time since the first time.
I do agree with tiredtraveler on the possession issue.
My experience with OTC has been I only see them a few times (less than maybe 5 times, I'd say on average) and I get tired of them and I want to try something new.
So then I'm back in the club's seeing if I can get another one to agree to see me OTC.
When you explain it to them that the money is all theirs (no house fees, no tip out, etc, etc) and the relaxed athmosphere of a nice hotel room with whatever they want to drink, (provided for them..ie no cost to them) it becomes easier and easier it seems to get SC girls to agree to it.
But, it does take a little while to gain their trust sometimes, which is understandable... But if you are a regular at a oarticular club, and many people know you, it lets their guard down a lot, I've found.
And once I'm done OTC with them, I don't ever see them ITC again.
On to fresh new ones... lol.
Strangely most of the girls I have done OTC with in the last 2 years I typically don't see again in the club. Most still work there they just don't typically work that coveted friday or Saturday night shift. I often purposely lose their numbers so it forces me to go out to the clubs to have some fun versus just taking the easy out and calling them to my hotel room.
In the rare occasion where I meet someone I really like and develop a relationship, when I am in town I will go to the club, maybe have a drink with her and give her a small tip, then head out and meet up for OTC later. I no longer take up her time in the club which sometimes helped me get a free or reduced OTC rate. I can often tell the girls that want a relationship don't want to charge, the girls that just want money charge.
Anouther dancer I knew was also an escort and used the SC club to build her client list, and once you saw her OTC she would get real possessive and tried to prevent other dancers from even talking to you (didn't want the competition I guess).
On a related note, once you guys start regularly seeing a stripper in a VIP/champagne room, do you still get regular lap dances from her before going to the VIP room?
I almost always got 2-3 dances from my ATF before we would go to the VIP room. Even if I'm going to the VIP room for FS with a dancer that I have already gotten FS from in the VIP room on previous visits, I still get a few lap dances from her. It's a nice tease before the main event.
If i was seeing a dancer OTC I would still go see her ITC, although I would save my FS for only OTC. But it would be a nice to see her dancing on stage knowing I would get to fuck her OTC.
To me one of the best experiences is watching one of your favorites dance on stage while she gives you much more attention to you then the other PL's. One time one of my favorites was doing a three song set and after tipped her during the first couple songs I started getting up, she crawled over to me and said "as soon as I'm done I'm all yours". Obviously she gives FS to other guys and she only wants my money, but it never gets old hearing that.
As long as the lap dances are worth it. I love lappers to get me all hot and bothered before the VIP. In one of the clubs I go to, the laps are super high contact, and I definitely will get one or two before the VIP. In another, the laps are a waste, and I just do VIPs there