mikeya02 wrote, "So every establishment you walk into, you compare it to Amps, Thai Tea, etc.? Can't enjoy a hamburger and a beer with pretty girls around, and enjoy it for what it is?"
Reflecting on this strange comment brings my mind back the Sunnyvale Spoons.
Spoons is owned by the Spectrum Restaurant Group, which is run by a prominent Palestinian American of Newport Beach CA, named Anwar Soliman.
They used to have 4 in NorCal, Campbell, Sunnyvale, Fremont, and Fresno. I used to go to the Sunnyvale one all the time. It was filled with pretty girl servers. They weren't dressed especially sexy, but they were still very nice looking and they were very nice too.
The guy who ran the 4 locations was Mike B. He had an eye for the girls. He knew how to pick different types. They were of every color. He must have known how to make the pitch to them, and how to pick ones which really had a good attitude too.
So loved to go their and eat my hamburger. It was TexMex style food, kind of like Chili's. I like Chili's too and I like their food and their girls. But I went to Spoons more often.
I loved to talk with their girls. I would flirt with them, but lightly. What would eventually happen is one of them would start coming on to me. And then, girls being as they are, once one started a whole bunch of them would start doing the same thing, aggressively, and in front of each other. There were a couple of times when I left to go home I found myself surrounded by them.
Oh well, nothing lasts forever. I think people started to want lighter food. Concept restaurants only last so long. Also Soliman had expanded the business by taking on debt. Some slow economic times came. He restructured the debt by mortgaging the buildings. But debt carries interest. Eventually they pulled out of NorCal. It probably still operates in SoCal, and all the way out to their HQ in Dallas.
Not sure if the pretty girls are as good in these other areas though. It might have just been due to the talents of Mike B.
Now people laughed at the guy who paid lots of money to open a Hooters in San Francisco. Lots of interesting stuff to do in San Francisco. I wouldn't think anyone would go there for Hooters. But South Bay, and especially the suburbs, are different.
The Campbell and Fremont Hooters are in the old Spoons buildings!
So when I say that I don't care for Hooters, one of the things I am comparing it to is Spoons, which I loved.
Others have commented on how hard it is to pickup on Hooters Girls. I understand exactly. They have so many girls and you don't get to talk to them much and it is very hard to get the same girl on multiple visits. But then there is also just the fact that because of how Hooters is advertised, the girls are stuckup. They are not nice. They are animated and bubbly, as this is armor plating. As long as they are like that, you can't flirt with them.
Now I also compare this to Viet Coffee, where they will typically have about 3 girls, all dolled up hotties, per shift. If they want to talk to you, which they don't always, you can talk with each of them multiple times. This is because they are always making tea refill rounds. So these are fun too. Light flirting only, don't come on strong with them as that turns them off.
I do compare these sorts of venues, and AMPs and SCs. It is not just that I am concerned about value for the money. More than this, I see these places as laboratories for understanding relations between men and women. How can such relations be altered? Normalcy is a nightmare. We have a special court division just to deal with the messes:
So how could it be different? Are SC's, AMP's, or Spoons the answer? Not really. But by interacting with women in such places one gains additional perspective and one comes to see that there could be other possibilities. So this is why I do analyze the interactions and the venues.
SJG
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Thanks for not answering and merely repeat your food establishments vs Amps and Thai Tea premise, which is why I asked questions in the first place. You're being a Dick Cabeza