Hamburgers and Pretty Girls, or why Spoons beats Hooters
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Reflecting on this strange comment brings my mind back the Sunnyvale Spoons.
Spoons is owned by the Spectrum Restaurant Group, which is run by a prominent Palestinian American of Newport Beach CA, named Anwar Soliman.
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They used to have 4 in NorCal, Campbell, Sunnyvale, Fremont, and Fresno. I used to go to the Sunnyvale one all the time. It was filled with pretty girl servers. They weren't dressed especially sexy, but they were still very nice looking and they were very nice too.
The guy who ran the 4 locations was Mike B. He had an eye for the girls. He knew how to pick different types. They were of every color. He must have known how to make the pitch to them, and how to pick ones which really had a good attitude too.
So loved to go their and eat my hamburger. It was TexMex style food, kind of like Chili's. I like Chili's too and I like their food and their girls. But I went to Spoons more often.
I loved to talk with their girls. I would flirt with them, but lightly. What would eventually happen is one of them would start coming on to me. And then, girls being as they are, once one started a whole bunch of them would start doing the same thing, aggressively, and in front of each other. There were a couple of times when I left to go home I found myself surrounded by them.
Oh well, nothing lasts forever. I think people started to want lighter food. Concept restaurants only last so long. Also Soliman had expanded the business by taking on debt. Some slow economic times came. He restructured the debt by mortgaging the buildings. But debt carries interest. Eventually they pulled out of NorCal. It probably still operates in SoCal, and all the way out to their HQ in Dallas.
Not sure if the pretty girls are as good in these other areas though. It might have just been due to the talents of Mike B.
Now people laughed at the guy who paid lots of money to open a Hooters in San Francisco. Lots of interesting stuff to do in San Francisco. I wouldn't think anyone would go there for Hooters. But South Bay, and especially the suburbs, are different.
The Campbell and Fremont Hooters are in the old Spoons buildings!
So when I say that I don't care for Hooters, one of the things I am comparing it to is Spoons, which I loved.
Others have commented on how hard it is to pickup on Hooters Girls. I understand exactly. They have so many girls and you don't get to talk to them much and it is very hard to get the same girl on multiple visits. But then there is also just the fact that because of how Hooters is advertised, the girls are stuckup. They are not nice. They are animated and bubbly, as this is armor plating. As long as they are like that, you can't flirt with them.
Now I also compare this to Viet Coffee, where they will typically have about 3 girls, all dolled up hotties, per shift. If they want to talk to you, which they don't always, you can talk with each of them multiple times. This is because they are always making tea refill rounds. So these are fun too. Light flirting only, don't come on strong with them as that turns them off.
I do compare these sorts of venues, and AMPs and SCs. It is not just that I am concerned about value for the money. More than this, I see these places as laboratories for understanding relations between men and women. How can such relations be altered? Normalcy is a nightmare. We have a special court division just to deal with the messes:
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So how could it be different? Are SC's, AMP's, or Spoons the answer? Not really. But by interacting with women in such places one gains additional perspective and one comes to see that there could be other possibilities. So this is why I do analyze the interactions and the venues.
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Tipping a $20 for one beer? Yeah, I think you could get her or anyone to serve you. They were probably at your table super fast as soon as you arrived.
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The parent company, Spectrum Restaurant Group / American Restaurant Group / Anwar Soliman, has had financial difficulties.
If I wanted to go into Hooters all the time, and especially wearing a suit, and passing out lots of money, it probably would be different. But I'm not interested in doing that and I don't live that close to one. Spoons was better, and Viet Coffee is still better. There actually is one Viet Coffee where they do have food and I have enjoyed it very much.
I think some Hooters are more busy than others. Campbell is very busy. It has been whenever I have been there. Maybe Fremont isn't. I've seen pictures of Fremont and the girls look more ethnic. I probably would like it better. But I'm not going to go that far and I wouldn't want to go there that often.
Both are in former Spoons buildings. I did sometimes go to the Campbell Spoons. But the one I went to all the time was Sunnyvale, and it is not now a Hooters.
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I remember Spoons. These days, my buddies and I love The Firehouse in Sunnyvale. On a good night, the waitresses are as hot as a high end strip club, and there's beer, a microbrewery-type menu, and sports playing on the TV. Awesome place to enjoy some gorgeous girls prancing around, while enjoying some time with your non-SCing buddies.
Some of the Santana Row restaurants have some pretty hot waitress lineups also, but those places are more upscale (in terms of prices, if not in terms of food), you're fighting the Santana Row crowds, etc
hey dumbass. come out of your mother’s basement once in a while and try commenting on something you actually experience first hand. the fremont Hooters has been closed for more than two years. you are the most uneducated, inexperienced “intellectual” posting on TUSCL.
tell you what. i’ll buy you a bus ticket to Juarez so you can organize the whores to rise up and just say no to the drug cartels. let us know how that works out for you
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Yes, I've seen the Firehouse in Sunnyvale. Never been inside though. But I've seen pictures of their waitresses and I agree with your appraisal. I'm sure that place would be more fun than Hooters.
About Santana Row, that is a place I do my best to stay away from, stuff priced at 3x what it should be, just because some people get sexually excited by spending money.
Here is the old Spoons Sunnyvale location, Fair Oaks and the El Camino. Looks now to be an Indian restaurant.
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@DoctorPhil, I said that I'd been to the Campbell Hooters and that I'd seen pictures of the waitresses at the Fremont one. Never said I'd been to Fremont Hooters. Fremont is too far in my book, just to go to a Hooters. And besides, San Jose has over 20 Vietnamese Coffee shops, which I like much better.
And as far as hookers rising up, politics are changing in Mexico. People don't think much of Philippe Calderon's militarized approach to fighting drugs and what it has done to Juarez and the rest of the country. Because of community activism Juarez is settling down. More than any other place I know of, it sounds like Mexico is where hookers are making a stand. They want to be treated like ordinary people, not as some kind of an underclass. I think this is the meaning of the school uniforms on the TJ day time hookers. It means that they live ordinary and responsible lives. They just want to be able to make enough money to be financially secure, and so that is how they do it. But they are as reliable and responsible as the Latina's here who manage the supermarkets, and who work in the County offices and the Post Office. I would like to see the same thing happen in Juarez, and having the second highest border crossing rate, I believe it will.
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