expectations

phoenixxxblaque
this is a post on expectations..what people expect when they walk into a club...and how those expectations figure into what is rated good over bad.

i,ve read alot of club/dancer reviews..and one word always seems to pop up in high frequency..mileage...clubs and dancers are rated by mileage,,a word used to describe how far you can go before a red light surfaces.some people go into clubs with VERY high expectations and then get frustrated or post so so or bad reviews when thier high expectations arent met...but what exactly is a reasonable expectation from one that is a bit high..here are my thoughts.

as a client,a reasonable expectation is the following...to be treated with respect and courtesy..that dancers be friendly and entertaining...not to be ripped off or lied to...for the dancers to look and act their best and be pictures of different fantasies you as a client could have..a UNREASONABLE expectation would be the following...expecting dancers to hand out thier real names,phone numbers or so forth to you...expecting to find a "girlfriend" figure in the club.....expecting to put your fingers or lips on orfices or skin that isnt yours..or recieving risky sexual extras...expecting a girl to meet you outside the club.these,i feel,arent reasonable club expectations..these are things that involve personal sexual involvement or contact that is best outside the club..i,m not booing or hissing at you men for wanting these things...but,think about it....are you basing your club/dancer ratings on taboo things or reasonable things that come with respect and courtesy?i would expect a bad rating to a dancer who treated you badly,ripped you off,or acted like you werent there during a dance....but not for the girl who did her best to entertain within the club rules and really made an effort to make you happy.is a great rating based on the amount of poking,prodding,licking or so forth that can occur...or is it based on true effort and abilty to be a entertainer?i know its a blurry line,i know....depending on who you talk to and what they feel is their kind of entertainment..there is a fine line between entertaining and cheap sexual thrills....i feel that if you go into a club and you get things there,good for you..but you should really base your ratings on the behavior and entertainemnt value of the girls as a whole...i,m a dancer,and i,m not trying to be bossy here,just expressing my point of view about club/dancer ratings...i,m interested to hear what you gentlemen have to say...thanks

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  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago
    Hi Fondl,

    I had a dancer do that and she was very sweet offering me a full refund AND she was willing to advise me which girls would go with the clubs limits and beyond. I didn't take advantage of the refund and had a nice time, although I wouldn't buy dances from her in the future. She was very honest and only wanted satisfied customers.

  • FONDL
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    20 years ago
    As for as my expectations re contact goes, I expect a dancer to allow as much contact as the club allows, or to tell me she has different limits up front, before I agree to buy a dance. I think a customer has a right to be pissed if a girl sets stricter limits than the club's and doesn't tell the customer before they get to the LD room. I've had that happen to me and I think it's very dishonest. It's like buying something at a store and when you get it home a piece is missing and they won't take it back.
  • StripShopper
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    20 years ago
    Gentlemen:

    Please Read phoenixxxblaque postings and notice how she continually talks about her "feelings".

    Pure "Chick Logic"... "If it doesn't feel right to "me"...well it must be wrong!"

    Look Phoenix, I have no Idea what would convince you to come to this Board...but like ShadowCat...I have my doubts about your motives.

    As a woman, you should get a grip on the fact that men want sex.

    Whether it range from titilating conversation to hardcore fucking....our motives are hardwired. Women who cater to this base knowledge and understanding...."Capitalize".

    Those that don't.....bitch about their feelings.
  • StripShopper
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    20 years ago
    This is a quote from her Website:

    "some of the posts i read talked about dance"mileage"..wtf?are dancers cars now?what the whole mileage thing means is how far you,ll let them go in a dance..how risque things can get..some guys say that unless you allow lots of things that doesnt make for a good dance...ditto that if you dont show alot of skin or let them lick all over you or kiss you..my view..a good dance is just that...good...its how the lady entertains you...if she is portraying the fantasy and is at least acting like shes enjoying it(or actually is)..being risque or whatever MAY play into it or not,but i think any man who goes into a strip club looking for mileage or extras and thats how he bases his satisfaction on a dance or not ought to save himself and dancers the hassle by calling up an escort,because,really,hes looking for private fun,not just a dance for entertainment.


    Definition: Air Dancer!


    She's pretty twisted go to her website and read some of her BS...She's your average dancer on the TAKE.

    http://www.cumgetsum.com/pages/fs_holder…
  • komey1970
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    20 years ago
    A lot of general expectations of a specific strip club comes from reviews and comments here and other site. If I go go a club for the first time, or even one that I haven't visited in a long time, then I will sit back and watch how things "work" in the club before forming any expectations.

    As for a specific dancers, I like dancers that at least phyisically look like they enjoy what they are doing (i.e. not overly drunk or on something). I expect that the girl be relatively clean. As for a private dance, I like girls that go reasonably close to the limit of the rules. They don't have to go over. For example, if the rules allow one way contact (as my favorite club does), I expect some one way contact during the dance. An air dance won't do it for me there and I will not likely get another dance from her.
  • FONDL
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    20 years ago
    I've had great times where I met a girl who was really enjoyable to talk to, I've had equally great times where I met a girl who was really hot in the LD room, and I've had great times where I met several girls who I didn't especially care for but they were friendly toward me and made me feel welcome. There are all kinds of ways to enjoy a club visit as long as you stay loose and aren't looking for anything in particular.
  • phoenixxxblaque
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    20 years ago
    fondl-you bring up alot of true facts..there are alot of girls who think just because they dance totally nude that they will make more money then say ladies who go topless or wear bikinis..which may or may not be true,depending on the girl and atmosphere presented..and her attitude...i know ladies who think just because they get implants that they,ll make more then the ladies who are natural..or ladies who are really pretty-they assume that men will just fall at their feet and hand over their wallets..two examples of other unreasonable expectations..i also agree that if you go into a club without strict self rules and criteria about what it will take to be good over bad,you might have more fun that way..cheers!
  • FONDL
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    20 years ago
    I think there are a lot of unrealistic expectations on both sides. Some dancers expect to make big bucks just because they take their clothes off. Some customers expect to practically get laid for a $20 tip. The people with the realistic expectations have more fun and make more money. Personally, unless I'm going to see a regular and know what to expect, I usually go into a club with no expectations at all. Whatever happens happens. Sometimes I find a fun time and spend a lot, other times I don't do either. Not knowing what's going to happen in advance can be interesting.
  • phoenixxxblaque
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    20 years ago
    davids...everything within a club is by choice my friend...and you have plenty of choices as a client on how you want things to go...if you dont want to hear about a dancers life,you could always tell her to either not talk or talk about something else..you direct how you wish things to be....some guys dont like dancers just walking up and asking for a dance without a few minutes of conversation..you may or may not find what shes saying interesting or may be of interest to you,but at LEAST shes trying to let you get to know her first before you spend money on her(or not)
  • davids
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    20 years ago
    Speaking of unrealistic expectations, I think that some strippers expect too much for the little they offer in return. I mean $400/hr to hang out in the champagne room and talk about your stupid basket weaving degree from Mickey Mouse University, come on!
  • FONDL
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    20 years ago
    Actually I think Phoenix makes a very valid point. When I go clubbing I'm not looking for especially high mileage so my ratings of a club may be very different from someone who is looking for that. Seems to me that's all she was saying and I'd have to agree with that. Anyway, Phoenix, welcome to our discussion board and don't be discouraged if people disagree with you, sometimes in a disagreeable way. It happens to me all the time. I hope you stick around, we need more divergent opinions. And we need more dancers.
  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago

    I believe Shadowcat assumes you work in Tampa because you reviewed clubs in Tampa. You say you work in a bikini bar. How many bikini bars could there be in that area? Ergo you're promoting the Foxy's.

    Shadowcat recently nabbed Dragman so his inductive reasoning is probably on high alert! :)


  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago
    Shadowcat said: "I don't drink alchol when I am in a strip club. I am there for the ladies."

    I feel the same way. Also, one of my best experiences was when a dancer did some cocaine before the dance. The drug seemed to magnify what she was already feeling. The downside is she sounded like she was addicted. I wish I had the money to afford her.



  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago
    Hi Phoenixxxblaque,

    The male posters get treated like that as well. I think it some form of bonding exercise. :) Or it could just be some difficulty reading/thinking.

    My club reviews seem to be very unpopular so if you're very bored, then you could read a couple to see what gets some people's blood boiling. It doesn't take much. :)

    I did previously READ your club reviews (one of those clubs deserved a 10 ;) ) and I didn't see any problems.

  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago
    Hi Phoenixxxblaque,

    The male posters get treated like that as well. I think it is some form of bonding exercise. :) Or it could just be some difficulty reading/thinking.

    My club reviews seem to be very unpopular so if you're very bored, then you could read a couple to see what gets some people's blood boiling. It doesn't take much. :)

    I did previously READ your club reviews (one of those clubs deserved a 10 ;) ) and I didn't see any problems.
  • phoenixxxblaque
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    20 years ago
    for shadowcat..yes,i work at bikini bar so i guess you could put that in the low mileage category since there isnt any extras or heavy sexual touching going on in the vip room..to address you comment about being around awhile,yeah,i,ve been in the business a long time,but to say i dont know much about men,well,i,m afraid i,m going to have to correct you on that.i simply stated an opinion and a thought,then asked others to post their thoughts on the matter,which some of you did...the only difference is,i didnt insult anyone in doing so....yes,i,ve posted reviews and topics for discussion..so what...i thought thats what you were supposed to do on a board like this....if this board is for MEN ONLY or you men would prefer that all woman stay off the board and not contribute anything for discussion,then perhaps you should put up a post saying so..maybe thats why ladies who might try to post here dont last long..their greeting is less then warm and made to feel that what they have to say doesnt matter..

    and i havent posted here about where i work,hours or so forth,so anyone who says i,m doing public relations for my club needs to take a good look again....theres nothing mentioning anything of that nature here...i didnt come here to spam the board....just state what i feel.if it isnt welcome,my apologies for barging into the he-man woman haters club and not knowing it.have a good night
  • casualguy
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    20 years ago
    Welcome to the discussion board phoenixxxblaque. It's nice to have some females on here. I don't expect to get any mileage out of you while you chat on this discussion board so my expectations are already low, lol. :)

  • Kyle1111
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    20 years ago

    I think the expectations depend a lot on the club. If I can't feel a dancer out, then I would just as soon buy videos.

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