OT: AMPs

What do you need to know?

We need more information. What color outfits do you prefer? Is it purple by chance? How often do you need your car washed? How often do you get to Santa Clara county? I doubt that anyone her has any opinions on AMPs, but we shall see.

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JohnSmith69 - "I doubt that anyone her has any opinions on AMPs, but we shall see."

toooo funny ! Indeed clubber will regret he posted.

Clubber - I didn't see beautiful girls in AMPs so gave up the quest years ago.

Two best sources for information on massage parlors that I know of are eroticmp.com and theerotiicreview.com. Eroticmp has some forums, so you should be able to join in, read along, and chat, but if you want to read the reviews (and read any threads by VIP members), you'll need to join. It's the same thing with TER; they have some forums you can check out, but if you want access to any reviews about massage girls, you have to be a paying member.

roger,

Pretty much what I thought.

Amp is the cut to the chase version of a strip club. No drinks, no looking, just massage and hopefully a happy ending of some sort.

The nice thing is even in a tough extras market like mn you can find a number of accommodating amps.

PhantomGeek-- Thanks for the suggestion on eroticmp.com but it looks like the site is not especially active. There are a few exceptions but in some states, the most recent discussion and review posts are over a year old. TER is somewhat more active. I mention this because the turnover of employees at a massage parlor is pretty high and any review over a couple of months old will probably be out of date.

Rubmaps.com is a good one.

@Clubber: I know nothing about AMPs in other parts of the country, and have never been to one even here, but here in Louisville, the reputation is that the women (few girls) range from "attractive" to "butt ugly". Note the lack of anything resembling "hot" in there.

However, the service (where there is any; some of the local ones are "legit"), seems to range from "good" to "OMFG, take my money!" Full service, even bareback and Greek, seem to be available at many, if not most, and MSOG is apparently a definite possibility in many of them as well.

And the prices seem reasonable.

There are also several "body rub" places that rarely hire Asians; those are mostly "jack shacks," though more is available at some. There is also a smattering of otherwise legitimate actual certified and licensed massage providers that also offer happy endings. Few of those offer anything beyond a hand job.

Local USA sex guide is a decent resource, and it's free, but something else might be better for your area.

Clubber i go alot to AMP s

#1 join rub maps...its a lot like tuscl
#2 bro they bath you, massage you and please you for a hour for $100-$200max
#3 once you start u want stop...it can be very intement.
#4 i visit about as much and at times more than strip clubs
#5 if you combine a strip club visits with a AMP visit u will feel like the Boss

Clubber - Here is my experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdWYXwjJ…

sc,

Old one, but still a good laugh! :)

I go pretty regularly, and second duke69.

Clubber, this link, advanced search on RubMaps, might work for you. It is supposed to be Miami, as opposed to Miami Beach, narrowing down to those where they claim it is Asian and where someone claims to have gotten FS. I get 9 open places. I feel that the quality of the sessions is underrated on RubMaps, because the guys who really get along with the girls don't write reviews. I sense this from the review texts themselves. Without joining Rub Maps, you can still read the old reviews. The longer a place stays open the more FS it becomes.

http://www.rubmaps.com/advanced-search-5…

Shadowcat's video is very accurate as to what it looks like and feels like in AMPs. The average age of the women is older than in a strip club, and the Asians are less Americanized than the ones you will find in SC's.

I never seek HJ, or Happy Ending. I always want FS, and I never openly ask for this, I just make it happen with the girl. With the session I did Thanksgiving Day, there was lots of flirting and courting, but zero talk about what we were going to do. The only talk about money was when she was ready to leave and I handed her some.

You say you like Asians and go to find them in SC's, but you have never tried out an AMP? I find this hard to believe. Have you ever even window shopped one? Do you know where there are some you could get to?

Usually there is an Entertainment News Paper around and that is where you find the ads. Then you might also just see their signage from the roads.

When you go in the first words you will likely hear are, "Do you want a massage?" Or they might say, "Can I help you?" To the second you respond, "Do you do massage?" Sometimes they will say no, they just do "Relaxation", as there are licensing rules about massage. Either way, it amounts to the same thing. But they try to limit front room conversation as talk is what could get them in trouble, and because they don't really like dealing with window shoppers. But you can still learn to play it to your advantage.

Usually you can ask to see the other girls. If you look to be leaving, they will usually offer to let you see. But if you do this, you are rejecting the girl at the front desk, Probably it was her turn. How you handle the selection process is, in my opinion, the biggest single variable in how GFE it is likely to be.

Silkypants is right that they make the selection process happen fast in AMPs. This is their disadvantage over SC's. So one finds ways to learn to play it. If you have money to spend, you can do all of their girls, and doing so you get to see any newcomers. Once they know you are for real, then they will open up even more, and new girls will be flattered when you pick them.

Good Luck,
SJG

Eric Burdon and War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rxNrmE_…

Electronman, yeah, eroticmp can be quiet, real, real quiet. The big problem with it is that there are too many indiscreet morons posting all sorts of details, not thinking that anyone from nosy neighbors and landlords to LE can be reading that stuff, too. Still, it doesn't hurt to take part in some of the forums and get to know some of the guys, like on here; once you get established and get to know some folks, maybe you can get some tidbits back-channeled.

Just a bit more follow up, about how to stage it when you first walk in the front door.

Most of these places give you serial viewing. That is, it would be better if they presented you with a line up. Or what they sometimes have is just all the girls sitting around. In San Francisco it seems more to the this latter way. But in South Bay they go for serial presentation, if any presentation.

So you walk in and right away the girl who's turn it is will ask, "Do you want a massage?"

Your natural inclination is to want to see all the girls, and so then ask her, "Do you have other girls?" But in doing this you are rejecting her and screwing yourself with her.

So from decades of practice what I have learned is that if you want to window shop, the best approach is not to ask to see the others. You don't want to reject any of them. So go in, probably without money. You will see the girl who's turn it is at the counter. Smile at her when she offers.

You might then ask about the price. Or you might have an agenda to promote, like getting more of them into short dresses and high heels. So you can ask her if she likes to wear such things. Or you can tell her how much you like how she does her makeup. This way you have propagated a message, but you have not rejected any girls. Then tell her you will have to come back.

At this point she will often try to show you the other girls. Thank her, but without encouraging this showing. When you do see another, tell her you will have to come back.

If you like her, when you tell her you will come back, tell her your name and ask her for her's.

Because of Internet reviews, some of the girls use lots of names. They don't like being written about on the Internet. But at least you have some sort of a name for her.

Then politely leave. If they try to keep pressing you, then you can just tell them that you were just looking and you will have to get money. This will tick them off. But at least you haven't rejected any girls.

Then when you do come back you can ask for the one you saw and got the name for.

The more you can horse around and otherwise play games with them, the more flattered your girl will be when you do session with her, and this helps increase the chances of good GFE.

Of course in an Asian environment and given that they have to deal with lots of window shoppers and street people, wearing a suit, or something close to it, goes a long way.

I never treat her like a prostitute, I just come on to her and court her and make it happen with her. This is always best. What I want from her is something money can never buy.

Clubber, I am not sure if you were sincere in starting this thread or not. If my suspicions are unfounded then please accept my apologies. Anyway, other people might be reading this and so I want them to have good info.

Of course if at an SC you can fraternize with your girl in an unstructured way and get her making out with you in the front room, then that will far exceed what you can do in a first AMP session. But too many SC's are set up to prevent this, and too many SC customers don't even try, as they treat dancers like prostitutes and ask about 'extras" and all.

SJG

Jeff Beck Group, playlist
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXtR0GUc…

Clubber - you know that I share your affinity for Asian ladies, and although I have been to a few AMP's before, my experience with them was 'meh" - it was good for what it was (impulsive visit with an unknown masseuse), but it left me wanting a more intimate session with an Asian hottie that I at least had an idea what she looked like before I committed my $$$. I'd recommend TER, P411, Eros or any of the other numerous services that will get you a reviewed (with pics) Asian masseuse at her private incall, often for a price comparable to that of an AMP.

;opaw,

On those sites don't you have to resister and be screened? I think they even verify employment. I guess at my age, I could fudge that part. :)

^^^^ lopaw

Yeah, Clubber.....typically you sign up for free and have access to escort profiles and limited reviews. If you pay, or contribute reviews, you can see more intimate review details. Most providers use references from other providers to screen, rather than employment verification. And that's probably the most asked question on all of those sites - how do I get my first reference w/o having to provide alot of personal info? In my case a dancer-turned-escort saw my posts and vouched for me. So you never know - there's always a way in :)

Clubber, P411, Date-Check, and RS2K are some different sites that act as screening services. They'll do one screening with you and then act as a reference. A number of different escorts and agencies use them. Also, when you start meeting the different ladies, be sure ask them if it's okay to review them on TER or some other sites (it's just polite, after all). If you get to know a lady well enough, she might even white-list you on TER, which can act as a reference as well.

Another site to use when you're looking around online is tineye.com. With tineye, you can verify pictures. If a lady's picture starts flagging from sites all over the world, it'll be a pretty safe bet that she won't be the one answering the door.

You don't have to sign up with a screening service in order to successfully see escorts. All you have to do is find one, like on BP, that does a super light screening by either a pre-meet or other none invasive method just to get a foot in the door. Once you got a foot in the door, you use her as a reference for the next one, and so on.

PG,

I've used the tineye service with dancers. Like Asian ones that are shown on a club site. Seemed to work pretty well.

sclvr,

I would guess that these BP ladies communicate that way?

Replying to Lopaw,

Yes, with the store front AMPs you don't usually get the level of intimacy which you would get in an Escort or AAMP session. You can do FS. This is what I do, and I make it as nice for the girl as possible. But the basic offering is not GFE.

This is why I have always found ways to manipulate the selections process to try and improve it. If the girl can see that I really like her, then that improves it. If she just feels that we know each other some, that improves it. Just so long as she doesn't see me as another PL who just wants to shoot his load, that improves it. It makes it easier for her to open up to me if she feels that we are already relating to each other. Early on DFKing is a certain indicator of this. But this is not the norm.

This is why I told the story of how this was hammered home to me, when I spotted one Donna who was wearing a purple dress while she was washing her car, out a side door of the building. So by happen stance I had broken out of the box of their selections process.

I had gone there, not sure if I was going to session or not. I guess I could have approached Donna at her car. But I mistook her for washing her feet. She had a bucket and she had taken her shoes off. I did not recognize the car as being part of the scene. As she was washing her feet I would not have felt right approaching her.

So I went in, and they started showing me girls, and I kept asking about the one outside washing her feet.

Finally someone realized what had happened and went and got her. I can imagine what they must have said to her. Once we got into the room, Donna with her high heels back on, and I just melted into each others arms and began the most intensive DFKing imaginable.

Even though Escorts and AAMPs have a basic level of intimacy which is higher, much higher, you don't get the chance to court your girl and soften her up before you commit. It is all done with photographs, and so this raises the tension level.

Each of these venue types, store front AMPs and the Escort or AAMP approach, have their limitations.

The best should be SC's, because you should be able to fraternize in an unstructured manner, and you should be able to initiate physical friendliness before committing, i.e. in the front room.

But too often this does not happen because of arbitrary rules, because the strip clubs are set up as clip joints, or because the PL customer treats the women like vending machines by talking about things like 'extras'.

How to get the best of all of these venues combined, like it is at the TJ Hong Kong Bar?https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=3…

Asian Date, maybe someone will like this.
http://www.asiadatematch.com/?afid=18514…

SJG

Jeff Beck Group
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5ID15mv…

Smiley Face Massage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8thCqWlH…

SJG

Here's everything you need to know about AMPs: If you find a good one, it will be very, very good. And then some dumbass will slip and let his wife know and she'll sic LE on them. The place will re-open 6 months later with a staff that takes 50 prozac a day.

Care to tell us anything about your own AMP experiences, what you like, what you think might be improved upon, and what is so good about these one's you are describing?

One thing I like about AMPs is that they are conducive to just doing all of their women.

SJG

Just had my first Amps experience. I have been doing the SC scene for about 30 years, member of Tuscl since 2008, and never been to a MP. I had been giving it some consideration for past year. I do frequent SC's quite a bit and once in while I'll contribute to Tuscl. I've seen quite a bit over the years at SC's, drama, fights, dancers so drugged that they passed out in the middle of a dance, taken some home, seen cry about all of their SS, got lots of extras. Then two days ago I had a dancer tell me she loved anal, and 30 seconds later got mad when I massaged her neck, she doesn't allow that. That's when I decided that I needed a change, maybe now would be a good time to check out Amps. Cruised the Web reading all about the subject. Dealing with Mamasan, table showers, the flip, the secret codes for what you want, blah, blah, blah. So this afternoon armed with info and cash I went to the best prospective AMP in the area. I really did not want to deal with all of the newness and differences, but I sucked it up and went. So here are my thoughts on the experience.

Walk of shame across the parking lot abs enter the establishment. Mamasan was nice asked me how long? I wanted to answer 8 inches but replied 45 minutes.

She asked if I had ever been there before, a standard question they all ask. I answered no. There is much advice on the Web that says you should say yes, but I was truthful and you should be also, I found out later that she would have known that I lying if I had. I won't say how because this is one of the ways she protects her business from LE. Very nice lady, she did everything to make me comfortable.

The table shower. Awesome, highly recommended, thought I would hate it, but very nice. In this case given by Mamasan, again her way of checking out a new customer.

Led back to room. Then a knock at the door and my provider came in. Nice. She did everything to make me comfortable and to relax me. Chit chat while she worked out some of the kinks.

The flip. Some suggestive comments followed by hand gestures to find out what remaining kinks needed to be worked out. Job well done. Above and beyond the call of duty. She cleaned me up, helped me get ready leave, went way out of her way.

Returned to front room, Mamasan thanked me, offered me a bottle of water.

No stripper shit, no whining about not making enough money, no stripper dramas, no having to figure out where the mileage is at. A clean, comfortable experience. Did I mention clean? Clean, clean, clean, I still feel clean, and relaxed and good.

Good news and congrats, MixedNuts. Sometimes even just a perfectly legit massage feels great.

Some masseuses, particularly the less-than-legit ones, will have their share of SS, too, though. During one massage, one masseuse went on about her upcoming wedding (which was going to be the next week), tension with her mother and impending in-laws, and her worries about why she felt her husband-to-be didn't trust her. The last part she was going on about while jerking me off. Yeah, instead of relieving me of my stresses, she just added to it.

Another time, I was doing what I could to enjoy a half-assed massage when the masseuse started going on about school and all of the problems she was having with her studies -- and crying. So instead of being able to just lay there and relax, I wound up spending a good chunk of the session comforting her.

PG,

"... I wound up spending a good chunk of the session comforting her." That could be the proverbial double edged sword! :)

Clubber,

Maybe so, but I found it to be just a huge ass waste of time and money. That night, I had a feeling I should've just gone to a movie, but, no, I had to try out another MP. Stupid, stupid, stupid....

@MixedNuts - that was a good experience, and the sign of a great AMP. It can be hit and miss, but once you find a good place, that's your goto.

The good ones have it figured out that guys go to these places to zone out, relax and have some fun, and they discreetly execute on providing exactly that, nothing more and nothing less.

If only stripclubs could consistently do the same thing.