Any SC's around Phoenix that offer Detroit Style extras?

Check out the HiLiter and txtittyfan's daughter.

Try Mexico

yeah, I've been to TJ many times but it's a 4-5 hour drive from Phoenix so looking for something nearby... Nogales is only 3 hours away but doubt that would be worth it.

Not exactly up to Detroit standards, but try Hi Liter. What you want is available there. The problem is the VIP area is cramped, dirty, and not nearly as private as it should be. So extras tend to be rushed.

Ok thanks for the replies, looks like it's an easy call, Hi Liter and nowhere else. That's great, I don't like going to multiple strip clubs anyhow, sometimes only having one slam dunk option is better haha. I may catch some nfl football there on a sunday since from reading the reports the talent level is almost as good as saturdays.

Actually after reading more reviews it seems like extra's can be had at Bourbon Street Circus, anyone want to comment in terms of comparing BSC with the Hi Liter? Im assuming BSC is more upscale in terms of pricing for any extra fun.

Extras at Bourbon are not common, and not tolerated by management or most of the girls. It is the best eye candy and there are tons of gorgeous ladies to choose from. HiLiter's VIP area is a pretty easy HJ, and BBBJ with some girls, and FS from a few. Blue Moon is also almost a certain HJ, but not enough privacy for BJs, and talent level is a notch lower than elsewhere. Similar story for Bandaids, although it has a slightly more private VIP area.

I've never been to Detroit, but from what I've read the closest thing to Phoenix that is that wide open is either Nogales or Tijuana, Mexico. Happy Hunting!

Yes

All dancers at BSC have fake tits. Not my thing so I don't go.

Blue Moon is a real shitty little club. Again I avoid it for that reason.

I've had extras at Christies a couple of times. It's much more upscale than hi liter and the girls may be prettier. But it will cost you twice as much and there are fewer girls to choose from.

Don't do the extra thing, but I know the girls that offer it. Signs have been posted on dressing room walls at the Hiliter to make the girls know that due to the Super Bowl in town this year, law enforcement is cracking down on pay for play activity. Like the girls have been warned so have you, run at your own risk. I know, a little preachy and I don't give a shit to those of you in search of extras, have all the fun you want, but be smart about it. I've seen And heard PLs come out bragging about the kind of action they got in VIP. Thank god for sluts. Enjoy!

Xecutive Show Club
https://www.tuscl.net/club.php?ID=1174

Anyone go to this? On some listings it is black. So I might suspect that things go real nice there.

SJG

There was essentially a "whore house" called "southwest attractions" that was fun but pricey (around $300) for full service. The 2 times I was there I was offered 2 stunning "models" to choose from, looks like others weren't so lucky.

It's showing it's closed now but maybe it's under a different name? I found it because a cab driver took me there.

Sounds like Lingerie Modeling / Adult Entertainment?

Not an SC.

I say that the SC style has the most potential because you have the possibility of free form fraternizing with the girls at modest cost, before you finalize your selection.

With Lingerie Modeling / Adult Entertainment / Massage Parlors, they always want you to commit right away. Not impossible to work it like an SC, by manipulating selection process with multiple visits for window shopping, but more difficult.

SJG

Hiliters and blue moon are the two most reliable, I've had action at christies in PHX and Tempe, but it's a lot more expensive and harder to come by

Phoenix used to have a ton of jackshacks or lingerie modeling studios, but with stricter zoning rules and better SC mileage, they seem pretty rare now. There are a lot of AMPs, especially out in the east valley. There are tons of ads every day on Phoenix Backpage, but beware of fake ads, ripoffs, and even LE sting ads.

Someone mentiond higher enforcement due to Super Bowl coming up. I suspect most of that effort will be to sweep out streetwalkers, probably not much pressure on SCs. Plus there's a huge local anti-trafficking initiative led by John McCain's wife, which also focuses on SWs and AMPs. Be careful out there!

@azdd,

You say, "jackshacks or lingerie modeling studios". As I know, a lingerie modeling studio is going to be similar to an AMP, meaning that if you want, it is FS. True?

AMPs in the east valley? Are these places really Asian out where you are?

I am not aware that LE actually posts sting ads anywhere. People say that, but I have never seen or heard of a specific account of it. Now, to catch pedophiles, yes they do do this.

As far a trafficking concerns, that is the new focus. It used to be porn. But with the internet making porn so mainstream, they have given up.

So what about a guy like I know who lives in India much of the year, but comes here for some months to work as a stock broker? Is he being trafficked?

John McCain's wife is part of that Hennessey liquor family which connects to mob boss Kemper Marley, who was the focus of investigative journalist Don Bolles. Bolles endured a gruesome death because of a radio control car bomb.

http://www.nytimes.com/1990/06/28/obitua…

So do people not go to this place, said to be black and I would suspect "high mileage"?
Xecutive Show Club

SJG

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Cities that offer Detroit-style clubbing are few and far between. From the recon I've gathered here, sounds to me like Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, East St. Louis and COI in L.A. are the only cities where you can find such options consistently (along with Detroit, obviously).

Of course, there are diamonds in the rough everywhere, including the backwoodsy places. But for consistent, Detroit-style clubbing ... probably gotta go to Detroit.

@SJG - I'm not a big fan of AMPs, but from what I've read in reviews, and seen in their ads, there are a bunch of them in Phoenix, and the appear to be quite authentic. There is a long term Thai escort service that advertises on BP, and gets great reviews.

I'm sure a lot of the studios that used to be around were FS for the right price, but back when I frequented them I was young, naive, and poor, and didn't know to ask for more.

I believe that LE has indeed used fake BP ads in both Phoenix and Tucson, and if the ad even slightly suggests or implies that the girl is under age, then you get slammed with the full weight of trafficking express. Good luck staying employed if that happens....

I remember the Don Bolles bombing very well. Definitely lots of suspicion swirled around Kemper Marley at the time.

“… Cities that offer Detroit-style clubbing are few and far between. From the recon I've gathered here, sounds to me like Dallas, Atlanta, Miami, East St. Louis and COI in L.A. are the only cities where you can find such options consistently …”

I lived in Dallas for 10 years and SCed there during that time and although the SCs are pretty good and mileage is good; I don’t think they excel in the ITC extras department (caveat: I did not know about TUSCL back then so maybe I was doing it wrong while SCing in Dallas; but I still think ITC extras are not Dallas’ forte).

People always talk about LE placing their own fake ads for doing stings.

As far as AMPs, AAMPs. and Escorts I have never seen this happen, and I was highly involved in SF RB and the community of people who used it. If it was happening, I am sure that I would have known about it.

Now as far as some swingers mags which have ads designed to trap pedophiles, yes, LE does do that.

AMPs are a culture of their own and they are an acquired taste. I've window shopped some more of the local ones. There have been some stylistic changes. I also did one session Thanksgiving and one the day after. Hope to write more about this. I've also got some RA's possibly giddied up in anticipation of my returning.

Hope to write more about this.

SJG

Is Atlanta really a place where the mileage is that good? Shadowcat posted that it is "home of air dance", meaning that they have local ordinances, no touching rules. These local ordinances are always the worst, and they are also completely unconstitutional.

I know though that he gets everything he wants.

About COI and Los Angeles. I was recently disappointed to find out that a local library just does not have enough paper street maps to cover the entire LA basin. Consider it as running from Ventura to San Bernardino, and then down beyond Newport Beach. I estimate that to cover it with the folding gas station maps it would take about 60 of them.

I was wanting to look up COI and all those San Gabriel Valley places beyond it. Not enough maps available to cover it all.

Baldwin Park and City of Industry used to have the Hostess Dancing Clubs too. But these are gone now, leaving just the 4 in central LA.

SJG

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