Why are people embarrassed to go to a strip club?
Electronman
Too much of a good thing is never enough
In a recent discussion about the prospects of placing strip clubs in airports, some people mentioned that potential customers might be too embarrassed to be seen entering an airport-based strip club.
In general, why are so many people embarrassed to be seen entering a strip club or enjoying a strip club?
The somewhat obvious answer to the above question is that your private behavior (enjoying a strip club) is incompatible with your role expectations (e.g., as a parent, as a spouse, in your job) or it is incompatible with a public image that you portray (as a promoter of certain moral virtues).
Am I missing an obvious source of embarrassment? Said another way, how do we get people to be less embarrassed about their strip club activities?
In general, why are so many people embarrassed to be seen entering a strip club or enjoying a strip club?
The somewhat obvious answer to the above question is that your private behavior (enjoying a strip club) is incompatible with your role expectations (e.g., as a parent, as a spouse, in your job) or it is incompatible with a public image that you portray (as a promoter of certain moral virtues).
Am I missing an obvious source of embarrassment? Said another way, how do we get people to be less embarrassed about their strip club activities?
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A rather general statement. Do you truly believe that liberals have no "moral high ground" that they defend? I would venture a guess that most ALL Catholic voters believe they are "moral" and will defend that standing, yet the majority voted for the VERY liberal obama.
A lot of people can't accept the fact that it's just recreation; they can't accept that it's entertainment and insist it's something far more sinister. I think there is a big majority of people who believe that a man who goes to a strip club must be some kind of hypersexual, unfaithful man whose sex drive is too high. These are the same people who believe that any woman who dances in a strip club must be one with loose morals, low self-esteem and no future. They don't consider her an entertainer.
Sadly there are cases where those stereotypes hold true but I don't think there's really that big a population that fits those perceived stereotypes.
As most of us know B is often accurate.
In general people don't like to be judged. Especially the hypocrites.
I once went to a club in Cleveland and a church gropup was picketing and writing down license plates. The club was in an industrial area well away from houses, churches and schools. They were doing it to get on the news.
'cus that's where the naked women at.
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Many people I know believe we are all screwed now. Higher payroll taxes come Jan 1st. Higher health care premiums come Jan 1st 2014 when Obama care health taxes kick in. Plus some democrats talking about raising taxes on 401k plans and even possible new taxes on the portion of health insurance premiums our employers pay. I can only hope I don't have to pay a whole lot more. The democrats are really working on raising taxes. I'm wondering how much I'm going to need to cut back on my spending. My last pay raise was pitiful. I could move but I feel screwed no matter what. If I were to listen to politicians, I would probably be labeled the lower middle class who is not going to see any tax increase. Yeah right. Who do they think pays higher electric bills or higher gas costs if they add carbon taxes to utility companies? We have a lot of elected idiots. my rant
If I was traveling and had time between flights, I would visit a club at the airport.
I just do not discuss strip clubs with any of my female relatives. It would likely only ask for trouble.
In the source I checked, it was 52-48 obama.
1. Are you less embarrassed when seen by people you do NOT know versus people that you do know?
2. Assuming that you are more embarrassed to be seen by people that you DO know, does it matter who sees you at a SC? Where is the bigger source of embarrassed: co-workers, friends, family members. Would you be less embarrassed to be seen by male friends who already know about and maybe share your interests in naked women? Why?
I suspect that one source of embarrassment is encountering people who know you in a role that may be incompatible with the values that you seem to be endorsing by going to a strip club. Of course another source of concern (maybe more anxiety than embarrassment) would be repercussions that your SC enthusiasm could have for your other role (word of your SC visiting habits get back to spouse, family members, employers, church group, etc.).
For me, I tend to limit the risk of encountering someone who knows me in a different role by visiting clubs that are some distance from my home.
Of course it also helps to have a reasonable explanation if you encounter someone that you know in a SC-- for me I have noted that "I have a weakness for food, liquid, warmth and naked women. It is not really my personal fault or weakness. It is a human "design" flaw so blame it on God or evolution."
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As for the puritan beliefs the second poster brought up, that reinforces it, but there is more in play then that as someone suggested that it may point towards being a cheater.
What it comes down to is the social norm. Sure, religions and political beliefs have played a role in it's development, but it is primarily rooted between how women perceive men that go to stripclubs. if you are single and go, then you must be a disgusting male that has been rejected by every female out there and that they should avoid you for good reason. They also start to think you have a loving relationship with prostitutes. If you are in a relationship then they start to think you are going because you want to be with someone else, or that you are. You also don't really love the one you are with because you want someone else and are willing to pay to see it.
It is how the idea of going online to check some porn can be seen as a reason to get a divorce for some. It is one thing if the guy just wants to check out some chicks, its another if he is online 12 hours a day looking at porn. One is actually normal, the other is a sign of a problem and most likely with the relationship, not the porn viewing individual's mind.
The reason I point out that this has nothing to do with puritan views is that not all cultures are influenced by them. Sure, you could attempt to say so here in America, but how many other nations can you name where people tend to have relationships consisting of 1 man and 1 woman, verus 1 male and many women, or 1 woman and many men in a relationship. I am not talking about cheaters, but living together in a relationship that the others of the same gender know and acknowledge each other. It is based upon this system of pairing of one of each gender together, no more.
The biggest problem is that people talk about getting a BJ from a stripper. Rumors of sleeping with the strippers and so on. This all adds up to a bad reputation, which leads women to see strip clubs as being nothing more then a brothel, therefore if you go you are a loser and a cheat.
Now if people know you can go in, have a drink, have a bit of a conversation, get a lapdance that is not you trying to bang the stripper, people might start to change their minds. In a sense if we can get the non-strippy women to stop feeling that their monopoly on men having sex is being threatened by women that will be upfront and honest by asking for the cash, then stripclubs would be easier for them to accept. They want to use sex as a means of controlling a man. If that control is threatened then they will react negatively because what is going to make a guy keep her around if he can go spend his money to get some? Her strength in a relationship is balanced out if the male can use one of his to gain what he wants.
While the religious nuts seem to be a little more concerned about the nudity aspect (pasties and pantie requirements) (AL,AR,VA), the nuts on the left do everything to ensure that a customer cannot touch a dancer in a club (MA, DC, isolated cities in various states). And the extremists on both sides fight vigorously to prevent the opening of any new clubs in all of the aforementioned areas.
Well the thing is that's all true!
SCLVR, you can bristle, but both sides have those on a crusade against the 'evils of stripclubs'! I'm a conservative, more in the sense of the government being properly run, not run into massive debt. As for religion, its there, but not hardcore. Nor do I care for the government getting overly involved in our lives.