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shadowcat
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In Defense of Topless Bars... and Women

Published Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:02 am

by Dennis Maley

Let me start out by saying that I'm not a fan of strip clubs, topless bars or gentlemen clubs, whatever you'd like to call them. No, that's not some kind of self-righteous and condescending line delivered to curry favor with female readers. I'm a red-blooded male, and I have no shame in admitting that I'm quite fond of topless women. Anyone who knows me will also tell you that I'm not adverse to a cold beer either. I just don't like topless women pestering me for money while I'm drinking my beer. I find that it spoils both pleasures.


Once upon a time, the guys could meet up after work for a cold one at such an establishment to enjoy an artful dance interpretation of a White Snake's Here I Go Again, while recounting the highlights of their day, pausing from time to time to deposit a folded buck or two on the edge of the stage, especially when something particularly acrobatic was achieved. But in the age of the big score, such patrons instead find themselves fending off by-the-minute invitations to buy the entertainers $20 glasses of fruit juice, or drop half the day's pay on the same dance performed five feet closer, while they recline on a “V.I.P couch.” Those same people who know me will also tell you that I'm far too frugal for either.



But while such establishments aren't my thing, I have nothing against those who still enjoy such entertainment in its modern incarnation. That's why I have to take exception to Manatee County's new Land Use Code aimed at crippling such businesses by not allowing them to serve alcohol. This isn't a response to a massive rash of crimes taking place at such businesses, but rather another attempt by a handful of people to legislate morality for an entire community.



It would seem that the fact that several such establishments have long been in business and thrived in the community indicates that a relatively sizable contingent of residents not only have no problem with such venues, but even enjoy utilizing their services. We're not talking pill mills or some other problem-inducing industry. These are walled-off, windowless establishments that only adults can enter. Nonetheless, the intent of the rule is to put local businessmen, taxpayers who have invested their money in developing a legal enterprise, belly up, while each of their two-dozen or so employees lands in the unemployment line – all so that this can be the kind of community a handful of unaffected people envision.



It reminds me very much of the attitude of many such people toward downtown Bradenton, particularly Old Main Street. Again, I hear over and over that a street lined with bars is “not what we want for our community.” Yet bars continue to be far and away the most prolific and prosperous businesses in the area. When it comes to such issues, doesn't a community vote with its support? If so many people really wanted boutiques and ice cream parlors, they wouldn't have such a hard time staying in business. There are over 300,000 citizens in this county. Officials need to keep that in perspective and decide whether an industry's success is more indicative of the community's attitude at large, than a few dozen complaints from people who object to something on a moral basis.



When it comes to “the kind of community we want,” public officials seem awfully flexible regarding issues like land development and pollution, especially when they are admittedly trading off ecological benefits for things like “the local economy” and “jobs.” But as a resident who loves this community, I care a lot more about issues like mitigating wetlands, encouraging more senseless sprawl, and the hollowing out of our urban core, than I do about what happens behind closed doors among consenting adults in a non-resource-intensive business – money being spent locally, helping fellow taxpayers earn a living with dollars that are more likely to be kept in our economy, without knocking down trees to do it.



I'm not sure what the real beef against these places is, and I suspect that there exists a natural politicization of the issue, as any public official who gets it put in front of them surely considers the ramification of being tarred as a “supporter of strip clubs.” I've heard the argument that it's degrading to women, but shouldn't the women that work there decide that? I've also heard wives complain that they don't want their husbands in such places, but again, is it the government's job to solve marital issues?



Also, allow me to assure any such spouse that there are few places where your husband's fidelity is safer than a topless bar. He has a much better chance of such an encounter going to Applebees for happy hour with the coworkers than scoring with an exotic dancer. Trust me, she has an unemployed boyfriend with frosted-blond tips and a lime green Mitsubishi Eclipse that she's taking all those folded up dollar bills home to, and the club has a well-heeled bouncer ready to show guys the curb if they get fresh.



Conversely, when it comes to what's happening of a sexual nature among businesses in our community, I can't help but point out that any citizen or commissioner who ranks a topless bar ahead of a Catholic church on their list of potential problems hasn't done very much homework on the subject. I have and I wouldn't hesitate to tell you which one would make me more uncomfortable if my seven-year-old son had to walk pass it on the way home from the bus stop.



There have been nearly 5,000 allegations of sexual abuse cases made against Catholic Priests and Deacons in a systematic child molestation epidemic throughout this country. The church hierarchy has been shown to be complicit in many instances by failing to report or even investigate many criminal acts and often reassigning offenders where they continued to commit such heinous offenses against our children. It gives a whole new meaning to the word prey, but I haven't heard any talk of not wanting these places in our community – and they don't even pay taxes. But I guess it's not nearly as politically palatable to go after a church as it is a bar.



Bottom line is prohibition and the legislation of individual morality don't work and they never have. If we want to decide whether otherwise legal businesses have a place in our community, than schedule a referendum vote during the next election and let the people decide for themselves. End-around legislation has a way of backfiring. A certain city to our north already tried to impose ridiculously convoluted regulations of strip clubs and they ended up inspiring the proliferation of full-nude/no-alcohol clubs that happened to coincide with the proliferation of nearby package stores that seemed to be particularly successful in selling the kind of mini-bar liquor bottles that are easily dumped into the over-priced colas at the club. I also suspect that the “relaxation parlors” will get a boost if the bars go bust.



Ultimately, the people of the community still decide what kind of community they build, whether you pass such laws or not. In the end, you just end up wasting massive amounts of resources trying to police your silly and self-righteous rules. I'd submit that the greatest challenge facing this community right now is high-unemployment and working-poverty wages, which are statistically shown to impact real problems like alcoholism, drug addiction and crime. I fail to see how shutting down more businesses and taking away more living-wage jobs will do anything positive in that regard.


22 comments

  • deogol
    13 years ago
    Waiting for the pendulum to swing the other way. From the 60's to the 90's was thirty years, so maybe 2020's?
  • JohnBuford
    13 years ago
    Kudos to Mr. Maley for his thoughtful article.Politically I'm a libertarian,believing the government should be out of our lives and business as much as possible.What I do with my time and money is MY business and so long as I do not infringe on the rights of others,I should be left alone to do as I please.Period.If a community has zoning laws in place to prevent SC's from being near schools and places of worship,that's fine.I don't mind a sound application of common sense.Regrettably,some short-sighted politicians do not share my view.
  • georgmicrodong
    13 years ago
    Reason and sanity? What *is* the world coming to?
  • m00tpoint
    13 years ago
    This is mrs m00t....

    1) Kudos for a well-written and thought out article. This is unfortunately a rarity today, especially in the media.
    2) Amen
  • Clubber
    13 years ago
    This guy has to be a nut case! Everyone knows the strip clubs cause rape. Never mind the fact that rape has been going on as long as man has walked the face of the earth.

    We also all know that were it not for strip clubs, there would be no drug problem. The only reason they sell/use drugs other places then strip clubs is they are just the overflow!

    All alcoholism is due to strip clubs as well. The corner convenience/liquor store? Just see the overflow problem above.

    Prostitution, see rape above, except we had to learn to barter first.

    Strip Clubs, the devils work, without doubt!!!


    PS - Are my horns and tail showing?



  • HonestT
    13 years ago
    Well if it's not the strip clubs corrupting us, it has to be:

    1) Video Games
    2) Rock Music
    3) Motorcycles
    4) Pornography
    5) Rap Music
    6) The Internet

    One of those things surely must explain why a crime happened in my community!
  • bobvz
    13 years ago
    I blame the commies...oh that's right, the 50's and 60's are over.
  • Stiletto25
    13 years ago
    JohnBuford- I couldn't have said it better myself.
  • HB13
    13 years ago
    TLDR
  • Alucard
    13 years ago
    "PS - Are my horns and tail showing?"

    Maybe something else.
  • Clubber
    13 years ago
    25,

    Trust me, you could say ANYTHING better, not that I would be listening! All my senses would be directed elsewhere.
  • sharkhunter
    13 years ago
    Kudos to the author. I went to check on the numbers for the sex abuse cases not realizing it was that high. Then I was surprised to read those numbers represent 1 to 5 percent of the clergy and I read that was a similiar statistic for other churches and society in general. That just tells me society has a problem in general when you have a large enough group whether the group is attending a church or a strip club. To single out strip clubs as being problems for society at large is laughable.

    i support Ron Paul in believing a smaller government is better for all of us. Our current President has stated that he thinks the Founding Fathers were wrong. He also believes he is the 4th best president ever. We are losing our freedoms without a fight and gaining neither security nor freedom. Seeing sanity in a world full of the insane is a breath of fresh air.
  • mmdv26
    13 years ago
    The church issues and the toughening of strip club laws is all about power.

    When the clergy suggests that a kid will go to hell, or his parents won't like him anymore if he tells about a dalliance, the kid is likely to believe it because the clergy has indisputable power in the eyes of an impressionable youngster as a result of its implied closeness to the "all mighty".

    Politicians who commit significant effort to push down adult entertainment do so because they don't have the motivation, or perhaps the mental skills, necessary to tackle more difficult moving targets such as economic policy. Strip clubs are, after all, fish in a barrel.
  • vincemichaels
    13 years ago
    Let's go fishing !!
  • vincemichaels
    13 years ago
    I like the way the guy thinks also. Having been in those counties around Tampa in Florida, they have a resource there that should be allowed to florish. Florida, like Michigan has a high unemployment rate. Creating jobs for fine young babes providing services should be a priority !!!
  • Prim0
    13 years ago
    I like the simple line from Atlas Shrugged...."Get out of my way!"
  • EarlTee
    13 years ago
    "Also, allow me to assure any such spouse that there are few places where your husband's fidelity is safer than a topless bar." As a married guy who has to keep his hobby secret from the wife, I love when people write nonsense like that.
  • Stiletto25
    13 years ago
    Clubber- you just keep moving up on my lust
  • Stiletto25
    13 years ago
    *list*
  • MADDOG_ROMEO
    13 years ago
    umm, s25...That's Classic Freudian....lmao
  • Clubber
    13 years ago
    25,

    I liked the typo better!
  • gatorfan
    13 years ago
    I need Cliff Notes!!!
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