OTC etiquette

1) Agree to meet at a hotel room. Never take a stripper home.

2) Before the date, agree on a service and fee.

3) When picking the hotel room, pick a room where you can see approaches to the room. This to make sure that she is alone when she comes to the room.

4) When she comes to the room, let her in, but then stay between her and the door.

5) NEVER pay in advance.

6) Make sure she undresses before you do. One game is to have you undress, then she dashes out of the room with your wallet.

7) Did I say NEVER pay in advance ?

If possible, leave all valuables at home or in the hotel room safe.

I only have one rule. If I have to abide by Dudester's rules. I don't know the girl well enough to engage in OTC activities with her.

I suggest you peruse the articles, and don't forget the older ones. There is voluminous and varied advice there for the picking. Some of it's even good!

Dudester has rules because there's risk. Best way to reduce the risk (and the need for his rules) is
1) if it's a stripper, only meet with someone you've known for a year, who is a regular at a particular club. She knows that you know where she works. Lots of girls will work a few days here, a few days there, and when she's ready to leave town, looks for a sucker.
2) safest is to hit the escort boards. Look for a girl with plenty of reviews written by people who have reviewed a number of other escorts.

Yeah, though to be honest if it's a stripper and she has at least been working there for a few weeks, I'd say that's plenty good enough. Obviously be careful in all of your dealings, but you're likely to be fine. I haven't had any issues at all in my OTC encounters yet.

1.Set the price and location
2.She strips and sucks cock
3.Fuck her in the pussy
4.Fuck her in the pussy
5.Fuck her ass if you want
6.Cum all over her
7.Repeat steps 2 - 7

If you want OTC, don't wait for them to ask. Find a hottie you want and ask her politely if she would like to meet outside the club. If she says no, find another hottie. Not every dancer will fuck for money, but enough of them will. Be nice and respectful. Don't treat her like a whore even if she is one.

In my experience, it helps to build somewhat of a rapport. You don't want to be a crazy regular of the dancer that gives her tons of $ in the club (making OTC not even necessary in her eyes), but you should get to know her a bit, maybe see her more than once at least in the club. Once there is a level of trust established at both ends, it seems the whole idea of OTC is a lot easier to talk about.

Shadowcat and gsv have got it right. What a pain in the ass having to do all these covert operations just to get laid. Gotta have some level of trust or its no fun at all.

"Some level of trust" *is* reflected in those rules. Not a very high level, to be sure, but allowing too high a level of trust in a situation like this can be fatal. And that doesn't apply to just the customer, it applies to the dancer as well. *Neither* party should trust the other more than absolutely necessary to successfully conclude the desired activities. *After* both parties have demonstrated that lower level of trust, then they can start elevating it, or not, backing off when and if it proves necessary.

It's just foolish for either the dancer or the john to trust the other too much right at the start.