Some Advice
alex80
So, I start with saying over the past few weeks I have blown quite a bit of money (nothing that I can't afford, but more than I expected to). I guess this is natural but it's really alarming. Been spending time in VIP with one girl in particular - there's no actual sex involved here, but quite a lot of intimacy outside of that (HJs etc). Its a good time, and I got this girl's number. We have been texting every now and then, sometimes just to see when she's working, etc. But ultimately I have had goals of taking things OTC. Now obviously I have her number, which she gave me on her own will basically but whenever we discuss anything it really just amounts to a 'maybe' I am sure she gets this a lot, she's the hottest girl in the club (in my opinion, and many other guys there, judging how sought after she is). So I can't help but think she is really just leading me on here into spending money on her in the club only. Judge me all you want here but to be the truthful I am not even really seeking sex OTC - I just want to take it OTC in general (rather be 100% private), doesn't have to be much more than what she already offers in the club. I've made this clear to her as well. It looks like it may happen some day, but am I wrong in thinking all this?
Obviously, this is just one girl, there are many others I can try the same thing with and probably have better luck, but this girl is just so beautiful and generally quite better than other girls in the club that I can't really stop thinking about this. I still have a good time with her ITC, but the environment just isnt the best when there are so many other guys competing for her there as well.
I guess this just sounds like a classic case of "RIL" for you guys, a term I have just heard about. I guess what I am really asking is - what do you all suggest to get my mind off all of this and stop pursuing something that I probably won't achieve?
Obviously, this is just one girl, there are many others I can try the same thing with and probably have better luck, but this girl is just so beautiful and generally quite better than other girls in the club that I can't really stop thinking about this. I still have a good time with her ITC, but the environment just isnt the best when there are so many other guys competing for her there as well.
I guess this just sounds like a classic case of "RIL" for you guys, a term I have just heard about. I guess what I am really asking is - what do you all suggest to get my mind off all of this and stop pursuing something that I probably won't achieve?
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Bend her over, with some hair-pulling, ass-slapping, name-calling. She will thank you for it.
And beg for more.
Then, text me her number.
Move on.
Find another, because there's plenty out there. Play THEM.
i just got back from the club tonight. there was this girl there that I had gotten ONE dance from before. During it she told me she would fuck me. But I balked. Tonight I went in and we went back to the private rooms. within minutes she had my cock in her mouth. it gets much crazier. and then I left a very happy guy. next time I'm in I'll get her again or go for someone else. you can't let them get their hooks into you. they got one thing on the brain. your money.
I am going to offer a different slant. I could have written your initial post about "C". vincemichaels knows who I am talking about. That said, I really don't care what others think. It is MY time, MY money, MY life, MY every thing else. She makes me happy and I enjoy our times together. If you are comfortable with what you have, continue on! YOUR wishes are all that matter.
What I'm definitely going to take away from this though - I need to mentally guard myself and understand that this is 100% a fantasy. This girl just happens to do such a good job of making it feel real. I can't let myself think it is though.
I can empathize. For about a year, I was at the same place as you. But experience taught me that strip clubs are for sex, and not for intimate relationships. Stop fantasizing.
So the real question isn't about the girl, it's about you. What do you want and why are you trying to get it at a strip club?
The only foolproof method I've discovered to get over an infatuation with a dancer? Start up with another one. (Obviously some drawbacks with that strategy, lol.)
The good news - once the girls in the club find out you're back "on the market," there should be no shortage of hotties pursuing you - a "RIL" is always in demand.
Of course the object of the game is to catch the vulnerable girl when she needs money....unless you are content to just piss it away on the fantasy.
A fantasy, most times but not always. I know this from personal experience. Sometimes to have that one good one, you have to take a few on the chin.
As for Sasha, she is so full of herself, there isn't enough room for the shit!
This is just the stripperweb party line. In reality, my experience is that the best looking girls are exactly the ones most like to fuck you OTC. Why exactly this is, I'm not sure. It doesn't really matter except as a philosophical game, anyway.
But let's play it:
Is it because the prettiest girls are also often the most messed up psychologically? Are they using their looks to hide that? Does the obsession with looks keep them from thinking about other problems, so it's just another addiction type (ill) coping strategy?
Is it because of the way people treat the best looking girls? Is it because they have about infinite sexual power, but know it will all end one day?
Or is it because they if are whores, it's not as bad for them because at least they are still beautiful. Whereas a so-so girl would be so-so and a whore. To much for ones self-esteem to handle?
I have no idea how the combination of explanations plays out, but, make no mistake. It is exactly the best looking girls who are the most likely to be doing customers OTC.
Sasha: "She's just doing her job, which is to remain a fantasy"
Ah, more stripperweb party line. The whole "fantasy" rationalization. It's funny to watch the reasoning on stripperweb. Yes fibs are probably wanted in a SC, but if fibs are okay, let's blur the grey area between fibs and lies, and then let's equate every lie with the grey area, so that it's all okay. Now that we've convinced ourselves that lies are just part of the "fantasy" environment, we'll next convince you that outright theft is okay too....
If your really interested in the girl though....Business is business. Offer her a thousand dollars an hour, no sex of course..you might get your wish.
"strippers are whores. Whores exist to be fucked for the money".
I wasn't aware all strippers liked to be fucked for money, I thought some also did it for free. Are they still whores then?. Hehe..
But in all honesty, very funny posts. I can't say I take them seriously, but good posts.
I agree with Dougster on a lot of what he says, but in all my 20 years of strip clubbing in several different markets, I have only encountered a handful of genuinely pretty girls who will have sex with a customer for free or pay. And those were usually situations where she was trying to close the deal with a potential sugar daddy....not usually me.
More often than not my experience has been that the prettiest girls are usually stringing guys along with regular suggestions that that OTC is just around the corner...but it never happens because she doesn't need (financially or psychologically) for that to happen.
I cannot, however, explain the aberration that exists at Mons Venus (and other FL clubs) where stunningly beautiful women agree to dance naked on your lap. I assume that only a small percentage of them would agree to OTC...maybe I'm wrong.
You have to remember, strippers are not there to meet someone to date. If that was the case, they would be in a bar (not strip club).
I'm not saying u can't have fun , but it is highly unlikely a dancer is looking for something more than $$. Example of this is last night I was sitting with a stripper I've met OTC and she introduced me to her friend who is new at the cub. She said to me," finally I meet someone normal tonight. We should hang outside this club, maybe go to an Orioles game so here's my #". She entered it in my phone, and then called it right there so I knew it was hers. For a minute I thought she might not be about the $$ till I got a text at 2:47 AM from her asking if she and her girlfriend I knew could stop by for a threesome with me.