(Warning, long post) How do you know if a dancer genuinely enjoyed your company
NoOtherAlternatives
Florida
So I had my first journey to a club yesterday where it was entirely my idea and I actually wanted to go and enjoy myself. I had gone a couple times about 7 or 8 years ago with my ex (my early 20's), but that was more her idea and not mine...it was more of a pre-sex aphrodisiac for the both of us and we were there for maybe 30-40 minutes each time. Not that it wasn't a fun time, but this was my first time going alone. So my experience is extremely limited and this is the first time that I've said "I'm going to go look at some women tonight." I guess I wanted to go because that ex was my last GF and I haven't really had any experiences with a woman since we broke up about 7 years ago...yeah sad I know...I have social problems that would make even the world's most educated and skilled therapist/psychologist say “Dude, WTF? You have some serious fucking problems!†So that's why I was compelled to ask the eventual question. OK, you can stop laughing at me now. Oh and stop laughing at my screen name too…just an inside joke between some friends and it makes a good anonymous name compared to my normal screen names on other sites…
My plan for this visit was basically to go in, scope out the place for a little while, and hope to eventually find a dancer there that was my type and get a medium to large-size handful of dances from her. So I go in and almost immediately after sitting down an absolutely gorgeous dancer introduces herself to me. It was like someone read my mind, got my exact type down, and plopped her down in the chair next to me! She introduced herself and we talked for a brief minute before she had to go on stage. During her stage dance, a couple guys went up to the rail to tip her, and though I don't really know club-etiquette, I figured I had to do likewise to show my continued interest in her. I dropped a $5 in her g-string and told her to definitely stop by when she was done. She gave a sultry smile and said “Definitely.†She came out from the dressing room and a couple guys stopped her on her way back and I thought I was screwed. No way she was coming back to little ole' me, but she briefly talked to each one and made her way over to me again. We talked for a good 10 minutes about things, and towards the end, she said “OK, well it was nice meeting you,†and I was floored, but in a bad way. She never asked me if I wanted a dance. I told her that I was hoping she wasn't leaving so soon, and that I didn't know what proper etiquette was but that I was interested in some dances (I did not tell her that I was planning on spending a lot of money though). She explained that she'll normally talk with a customer for a while before moving on and didn't want to pressure me into a dance since I looked (and mentioned that I was) a little nervous. I told her that I was very interested and she led me to the dance area.
Throughout our initial conversation and during the dances, we talked about everything from a brief summary about each other, to our goals, etc. It was quite a good conversation I thought. I was really surprised because I have an extreme difficulty talking to people, especially people I don't know, let alone an extremely beautiful woman. Unfortunately, I did revert to complaining about how my social life is non-existent and that I hated that part about me; something I do too often with friends and am trying to stop and just keep it inside. Besides the conversation, the dances were great. After one song, she asked if I was done, and I told her absolutely not, so she kept going. At this point is when she told me what was allowed. I was allowed to touch anywhere except under the g-string (I don't know if over the g-string was allowed, but I didn't ask or attempt) and that I could kiss/lick/suck the same places but no biting was allowed (not into that anyways). The conversation continued throughout the dances, and even got a little risqué, when we started talking about our sexual likes and fetishes; definitely a good addition to the on-going activity…turns out she was even more my type than I thought (if it was genuine). There were some quiet moments as expected, but we did have some good eye contact throughout – when I wasn't staring or buried in her INCREDIBLE chest. A couple songs later she asked if I was done and told her that as long as she didn't mind, I planned on keeping her for a while. She apologized for the continued asking and said that she didn't want to take advantage of me and keep going without asking since I wasn't that experienced. I told her I came well stocked and I was doing exactly what I came in to do. She smiled and said “OK great.†She did a couple more and then said that she thought she was on stage again next so she stopped. I told her that I was sad to lose her and that no one there could replace her but if she had another girl that she thought I would enjoy to introduce me. She said she would come back again after coming off stage if I wanted to continue and I whole-heartedly agreed. She went to check with the DJ booth and when she came back she said she was about 8 or so songs away and that if I wanted to continue there was no problem…yay! Part of me wants to think she played a part in pushing herself down the list, but I can't confirm that of course…should have asked.
So after a song or two break where we were just sitting talking some more, she started up again, and I don't know if it was the case or not, but it seemed to me that she was even more into it the second time around than the first. Mind you, it wasn't that I felt she wasn't into it at first, but she seemed to turn it up a notch. Maybe because she saw I was getting more comfortable and she was getting more comfortable with me. Grinding got faster/harder, more intense, eye contact was very intense both ways, smiles came out (I think), she told me she wanted to be spanked (and I obliged), etc. Multiple times when I gave my hands (and her breasts) a break, she would immediately grab my hands and put them right back on her, even using her hands to squeeze my hands around her breasts for a while multiple times. In fact, some contact in the other direction started, as her hands did find her way down to my pants every so often (outside of course).
This continued for about 5 more songs when I told her that I thought she was up soon and that we should probably settle up everything. She actually asked if I wanted her to come back again, but I told her that I'm sure she was tired of me and that I'd let her go. She said she wasn't tired of me, but I said Id let her go anyways… She sat next to me for another song and finished up the conversation by saying she really enjoyed my company and told me her future plans, and that I should stop by to see her and that she hopes she sees me again sometime. This was before I paid and tipped her. She told me the total was 11 dances, which worked out to about slightly over an hour but I thought it was more and didn't question (is that an abnormally high amount? I don't know if that's out of the norm or not…). I guess maybe I just enjoyed her time so much. I tipped her $50 on top of what I owed her and she got a big smile and gave me a nice hug (and held on for a few seconds) and said she REALLY hopes to see me again.
So while I absolutely completely enjoyed my time with my dancer, I still don't think I will regularly visit clubs. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year, if that, and only if the experience was comparable. However…if you told me that I was guaranteed a repeat visit with this particular woman, there's no question that I would welcome the visit. But that being said, I would have no idea how to find out what time/days she works…oh well… Maybe if she happens to read this she can send me a message to help me out, LOL (yeah, that'll happen, but she should know who she is based on what I wrote even though I didn't describe/name her).
So, if you are still here, thank you and here's my question. I know it ultimately doesn't matter, since I know it was just a business transaction and there is no chance of anything more (and probably not practical), but how do you know if a dancer is actually being genuine with her conversations and that she enjoyed her time with you or if she is just telling you what she thinks you want to hear? After we settled up, she told me that she thought I was really cute, very nice and just a genuine nice guy and that just stick to what I am doing and the right girl will notice one day and we'll be happy. Just as we got to the dance area earlier, she told me that she had just gotten here before she introduced herself, and during our break, she said that I was her first customer and that she was happy that I met her first. If those were her true thoughts, that would make me happy, but if they were fake, it would just make me feel like a loser I guess because then she would just think of me as just another PL as you guys say and I fell for it hook, line, and sinker. Again, not that it really matters either way, but it would feel good if I actually made a connection with a beautiful, nice girl even though there's no chance of anything further or seeing her again and that it wasn't 100% about the money for her. There were a few things that she said that made me feel it was just telling me what I wanted to hear; for example, she asked if I wanted a drink and I told her that I don't drink alcohol at all (never have…ever), but about halfway in, she asked twice if I was sure I didn't want a drink. I figured if she was listening and cared, she wouldn't have asked more than once. She said she didn't drink much either, but I figured that it could have been a lie and she really wanted one but wouldn't because I didn't (though I offered to buy her something 3 or 4 times and she politely declined each time). I don't think I would repeat visit too many times because then it WOULD turn into a PL situation that I don't want. I'd rather remember my one or two good times with her as it happened. Then again, writing this whole story could be the thing that makes me a PL, haha.
Well, my thoughts, and therefore my text, are starting to ramble, so I better stop and just listen to what you guys have to say. Thanks again for all who read this…it has put my mind at ease a little bit to get this off my chest and out into the open.
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Answer is the stripper remembers you as a ten and two five dollar bills. Leaving a business card up her pussy and she will remember you.
I enjoy my time in clubs just as much as the next guy. Most times, it is just to go and have a few beers, enjoy the show, and maybe get a dance or two. But once in awhile, it’s possible to meet a dancer that isn’t a drug addict, can actually hold a decent conversation, and seems to be genuine in her interest with you. One way to figure this out is to ask her for her # and set up a time/place to meet. If she agrees, and actually shows up then that’s a start,lol. If you both chill together and she doesn’t ask u for some $$ afterwards well then u are in a different category than just a regular guy at the bar. But the reality is that for 97% of the dancers, their mind is on their money and money is on their mind; afterall, it is their job.
To the OP. Dude, don't be afraid to have a good time. But if her mom suddenly needs an operation, or she needs money to have her car fixed it's time to find the next one. Or at least arrange something in a hotel room
As to your actual question, put yourself in the dancer's shoes. If she just got there, she doesn't know how she'll do that night, and she starts in the hole money wise since she has to pay the house fee. If her first customer buys a boat load of dances and turns out to be a reasonably nice, non-creepy guy who's also easy to talk to, then I would expect her to have genuinely enjoyed your company and be sincere about wanting to see you again. Doesn't mean she wants to go out with you, but that could develop later.
Now, take off those stripper high heels, you look ridiculous - I was speaking figuratively, man.
Sorry for the long post (I did put a warning...). I am analytical by nature; my education, career, etc requires it. And I can't turn it off outside of that; what I wrote is exactly what was going through my head almost word for word. I actually frequently keep myself awake all night with no sleep because I can't turn my brain off (once a month at least). With the comment about watching my heart, I know it's nothing to do with my heart, it's all my brain. I completely understand that I am not falling in love with this girl (hence why I wouldn't frequently visit to prevent that accidently happening) and just enjoyed the brief time we spent together. I just wanted to think that it was mostly genuine and not all about $$$; I know the vast majority of it was obviously about money, but it didn't all have to be. I would never ask for anything outside of the club, but if it was her idea, who knows what I would say. I think the experience was just something I had to get off my chest and now that I did, I'm set for quite a long time - unless somehow I ran into a certain someone a few months from now and was told when and where she would be. I should have just enjoyed the experience and not posted anything, but after trying to stop myself twice, I couldn't help it. I won't be going back here (or anywhere) any time soon probably, though if I somehow ran into her somewhere else (club or otherwise) it would not be a bad thing at all.
There is good news after reading all of this though: I am no longer overanalyzing my experience from last night (just thinking about it), and now analyzing how I shouldn't have posted anything and making an idiot of myself. So now that I'm thoroughly embarrassed, I'm going to go hide in the corner and "will" this post to leave the homepage and hope that nobody figures out who I am (longshot I know, but you never know who visits websites). :-)
The dancer has to make her money. She is going to have a better time giving those 11 dances dancing for a well-groomed, respectful gentleman that she finds cute over giving 11 dances to a smelly, pathetic, rude, fat slob that is trying to stick a finger inside her snatch the whole time. She doesn't want to date you, but she definately prefers spending time with you in the club over the pathetic losers.
And you mentioned that you would only go back if you kmew she is was working. Call the club and ask what days and times she works. I assume you have her stage name. If she is genuine about what she says, she will slip you her email or phone number at some point. More than likely not though. Once a stripper sees you as an ATM, she can't see you as a potential mate.
You sound all wrapped up, best to be there Thursday and get it set right in your mind.
She is genuinely enjoying your wallet.
(I only read every thirteenth word or so of the OP, but i think i got the gist of it.)
Let's see:
Over-analyzing strip club visit? Check
Problems relating to "normal" women? Check
Obsessing over a dancer you just met? Check
Congratulations! You fit right in here, lol.
Seriously, I hope you stick around and post more (ah, maybe the Reader's Digest condensed version next time?).
So from one hopeless PL to another, welcome!
Like steve229 says: welcome! I am an even more hopeless PL than he is.
One hint to you though. Many of us here are old farts - short attention spans, fewer active brain cells; ergo, shorter posts please.
Thanks for taking time to write such an extensive narrative. Perhaps should be an article.
It's pretty nearly always safe to assume SS is at the root of it, but like others have said, it's also reasonable to assume she'd prefer to take money from someone who's clean and nice than someone who's not. Don't read too much into it, just enjoy it as long as you think you're not being ripped off.
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Wait for it....
She gives you a blowjob without you paying for it.
Now for what really happened to me... she sends the dirtier wilder dancers to you. In my case she liked me as a customer b/c I respected her limits. Then she sent the wilder dancers to me.
She doesn't "view" you at all... you are out of her view. stop over-thinking this.