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PHASE TWO: ITC Extras Now I was moving into my next phase, the goal to get extras ITC. My first extras experience was not in Phoenix however. From reading reviews, I learned of the wonders of TJ clubs and made a trip to Adelita’s when I was in San Diego on business. I found a hot mexican chica and took her arriba for my first extras experience. Of course, TJ clubs are really legal brothels, so if you want to say this doesn’t count, I won’t argue too hard.
The reviews also helped me on another trip back east a couple weeks later where I found a dive club I thought I might provide some extra fun, I was allowed to touch pretty much anything I wanted to on her and her with me but all over clothes. Alas, due to the obvious cameras in the room, I only came away from this trip with an unexpected LDK. It was right at the end of a 15 or 20-min VIP session. I was having a great time and was turned on but didn’t feel as though I was close to cumming. Then all of sudden boom went the dynamite. She was not aware of the LDK as she wanted to hang out more after the session was over. But I just made a lame excuse and bolted. I might have had my first OTC experience if I had.
My first ITC extras experience in Phoenix was at a dive club known for its handshakes. It is a club I knew nothing about before TUSCL. I had done my research and knew who was down for extra fun and who was not. I knew prices and protocols for the club so even though I was new, I could front as though I had been there before which I was hoping would make it easier to get what I wanted. Well, it worked. I went to the VIP area with my dancer and walked away a happy PL. It was only a HJ, but for someone who had been going to strip clubs around Phoenix for years this was a fantastic and wonderful new world I had to explore with multiple dancers.
I continued to frequent this particular club on a regular basis and received HJ from multiple dancers. Understand, BJ are not possible at this club because of the openness of the VIP area. FS was available with the right dancer, but I had not really tried to close that deal. The level of service I received from each dancer differed. Some gave more of a GFE and others it was all about business. At this particular point, I wasn’t too picky about who it was as long as I was going to walk away a little lighter in the testicular area.
Then in the summer in 2012, I dated a civilian for about 3 months. It was a girl I had known for awhile and always had a crush on her, but she was married. I found out she was no longer married and I went for it. I did not go to any clubs during this time. We had a great rapport and I thought things were going amazingly. Then out of nowhere, things got rough for her at work and she wouldn’t return texts and/or communicate. She actually broke up with me via e-mail. How bad is that? So, broken heart in hand, I returned to clubbing, again down on civilian women but more knowledgeable in what I was returning to. In the years since, I’ve experienced just about everything ITC, HJ, BJ, TF and FS.
Then it, happened, the next phase of my PL’dom occured. A year and a half into my mongering career, I moved into the OTC realm. A dancer I met at the above mentioned club offered me her number and to give me massages along with some additional fun at her place and the price was extremely reasonable. I am not one flush with money, so I had to be careful with how much I’m spending. This dancer turned into my ATF and we had an on again, off again OTC relationship for the next two and a half years.
PHASE THREE: OTC This phase was a little different for me than most here on TUSCL. I really only OTC’ed with this one dancer. Most others have had multiple OTC dalliances, but to this point, I stuck to what I knew. And was fine with it. I had conversations with other dancers to set OTC up, but as it invariably happens with dancers, it didn’t work out.
Unusual was this OTC as all of our OTC dates were at her place. The first time I went to meet her, I had the fear of a set up. I left everything of value hidden in the car (credit cards, drivers license etc.) I quickly found that my fears were unwarranted, and we had multiple meetups over the next year. Like a stereotypical stripper, she had phone issues, was not great at returning texts and could ghost for a time. She was also good at contacting me for assistance with rent or some other bill. The good thing was she would always say the money would go towards our next date and she would make good. Also, during this time frame she was working towards starting a civilian career which was going to take her out of town. When the job came through, she still owed me for a couple of dates but she ghosted on me. I tried contacting her, but she didn’t return my messages.
At this point I moved on, I always take the mindset, don’t loan money ahead of time if you are not willing to accept it that it is just a gift which may not have any return benefits. You cannot be bitter in these situations. Especially, when you know the risks.
About four months later, the girl who broke up with me by e-mail, started to flirt with me again and after letting her know how bush league breaking up by e-mail was, we embarked on another try at a relationship. I know, I know, I should have never gone back with her. But, I’ll admit it, I was deeply in love with this woman and when you are deeply in love with someone, you don’t always think straight. For a while once again, things were really good. Then almost like clock work, the same things happened again. Work got stressful for her, and I went on the back burner. I tried to hold on longer than I should have, but ultimately after a year together, we broke up again, my heart shattered.
So back to clubbing and almost two months back into the clubbing game, who should return to town and back to stripping? My ATF. I visited her at the club and she was so excited to see me. We quickly got re-acquainted ITC with some extras and she remembered she still owed me OTC dates from before (How many dancers do that? This was a year and half after she had left).
This time around though, the dates were more true “dates”. It wasn’t just provider and john. Before, I would go to her place, hang out and then we would have our fun. This time, we would actually go out. Dinner and a movie or walk around the mall. She made me dinner for my birthday. I made her dinner and she came to my place for the first time. I even took her to her very first hockey game. She would dress so sexy for these dates and you feel the eyes on us, guys trying not to get caught looking and the girls burning a hole through my ATF when we would go into a restaurant. Now she was only a few years younger than me and I look about 5-10 years younger then I am so it wasn't like I was a 40 year old prancing around with an 18 yer old. She was just so hot and dressed provocatively enough, we attracted stares. Most people don't dress like that to go to Olive Garden. lol. She proposed a Friends with Benefits relationship. Money wasn’t exchanged. It was just hang out and have fun. We actually were friends and enjoyed hanging out. She had started a regular job not to far from her place and only worked one day a week at a new club (she was fired from the other where we met) on the weekend.
But unfortunately, it was short lived. My ATF was from Europe. She had not returned there since moving to the US. We were supposed to get together one night. The morning of, she texted me her father had died and she was returning home for the funeral (I knew her father had been sick, so I knew it wasn’t SS). I never heard from her again. I drove by where she was living a few months later to see if her car was there. No such luck. But despite what you might think, I was not devastated by not being able to see her anymore. I enjoyed hanging with her, but I never considered an actual relationship with her and she was just flaky enough at times to make it easy to not be disillusioned at what this friendship was about.
I haven’t done OTC since although I have tried to set it up with a couple of faves. It would have to be the right situation, with the right dancer, at the right price but I would return to this fun and beneficial part of the mongering game if the stars aligned. My schedule makes it difficult.
In my next installment, I’ll cover my experiences with TUSCL Meetups.
