My Evolution as a Monger - Parts 2 & 3 - ITC and OTC Extras
rh48hr
Wakanda
Tuesday, May 8, 2018 6:58 AM
If you would like to re-read part one of this article, you can read it here https://www.tuscl.net/article.php?id=557…
PHASE TWO: ITC Extras
Now I was moving into my next phase, the goal to get extras ITC. My first extras experience was not in Phoenix however. From reading reviews, I learned of the wonders of TJ clubs and made a trip to Adelita’s when I was in San Diego on business. I found a hot mexican chica and took her arriba for my first extras experience. Of course, TJ clubs are really legal brothels, so if you want to say this doesn’t count, I won’t argue too hard.
The reviews also helped me on another trip back east a couple weeks later where I found a dive club I thought I might provide some extra fun, I was allowed to touch pretty much anything I wanted to on her and her with me but all over clothes. Alas, due to the obvious cameras in the room, I only came away from this trip with an unexpected LDK. It was right at the end of a 15 or 20-min VIP session. I was having a great time and was turned on but didn’t feel as though I was close to cumming. Then all of sudden boom went the dynamite. She was not aware of the LDK as she wanted to hang out more after the session was over. But I just made a lame excuse and bolted. I might have had my first OTC experience if I had.
My first ITC extras experience in Phoenix was at a dive club known for its handshakes. It is a club I knew nothing about before TUSCL. I had done my research and knew who was down for extra fun and who was not. I knew prices and protocols for the club so even though I was new, I could front as though I had been there before which I was hoping would make it easier to get what I wanted. Well, it worked. I went to the VIP area with my dancer and walked away a happy PL. It was only a HJ, but for someone who had been going to strip clubs around Phoenix for years this was a fantastic and wonderful new world I had to explore with multiple dancers.
I continued to frequent this particular club on a regular basis and received HJ from multiple dancers. Understand, BJ are not possible at this club because of the openness of the VIP area. FS was available with the right dancer, but I had not really tried to close that deal. The level of service I received from each dancer differed. Some gave more of a GFE and others it was all about business. At this particular point, I wasn’t too picky about who it was as long as I was going to walk away a little lighter in the testicular area.
Then in the summer in 2012, I dated a civilian for about 3 months. It was a girl I had known for awhile and always had a crush on her, but she was married. I found out she was no longer married and I went for it. I did not go to any clubs during this time. We had a great rapport and I thought things were going amazingly. Then out of nowhere, things got rough for her at work and she wouldn’t return texts and/or communicate. She actually broke up with me via e-mail. How bad is that? So, broken heart in hand, I returned to clubbing, again down on civilian women but more knowledgeable in what I was returning to. In the years since, I’ve experienced just about everything ITC, HJ, BJ, TF and FS.
Then it, happened, the next phase of my PL’dom occured. A year and a half into my mongering career, I moved into the OTC realm. A dancer I met at the above mentioned club offered me her number and to give me massages along with some additional fun at her place and the price was extremely reasonable. I am not one flush with money, so I had to be careful with how much I’m spending. This dancer turned into my ATF and we had an on again, off again OTC relationship for the next two and a half years.
PHASE THREE: OTC
This phase was a little different for me than most here on TUSCL. I really only OTC’ed with this one dancer. Most others have had multiple OTC dalliances, but to this point, I stuck to what I knew. And was fine with it. I had conversations with other dancers to set OTC up, but as it invariably happens with dancers, it didn’t work out.
Unusual was this OTC as all of our OTC dates were at her place. The first time I went to meet her, I had the fear of a set up. I left everything of value hidden in the car (credit cards, drivers license etc.) I quickly found that my fears were unwarranted, and we had multiple meetups over the next year. Like a stereotypical stripper, she had phone issues, was not great at returning texts and could ghost for a time. She was also good at contacting me for assistance with rent or some other bill. The good thing was she would always say the money would go towards our next date and she would make good. Also, during this time frame she was working towards starting a civilian career which was going to take her out of town. When the job came through, she still owed me for a couple of dates but she ghosted on me. I tried contacting her, but she didn’t return my messages.
At this point I moved on, I always take the mindset, don’t loan money ahead of time if you are not willing to accept it that it is just a gift which may not have any return benefits. You cannot be bitter in these situations. Especially, when you know the risks.
About four months later, the girl who broke up with me by e-mail, started to flirt with me again and after letting her know how bush league breaking up by e-mail was, we embarked on another try at a relationship. I know, I know, I should have never gone back with her. But, I’ll admit it, I was deeply in love with this woman and when you are deeply in love with someone, you don’t always think straight. For a while once again, things were really good. Then almost like clock work, the same things happened again. Work got stressful for her, and I went on the back burner. I tried to hold on longer than I should have, but ultimately after a year together, we broke up again, my heart shattered.
So back to clubbing and almost two months back into the clubbing game, who should return to town and back to stripping? My ATF. I visited her at the club and she was so excited to see me. We quickly got re-acquainted ITC with some extras and she remembered she still owed me OTC dates from before (How many dancers do that? This was a year and half after she had left).
This time around though, the dates were more true “dates”. It wasn’t just provider and john. Before, I would go to her place, hang out and then we would have our fun. This time, we would actually go out. Dinner and a movie or walk around the mall. She made me dinner for my birthday. I made her dinner and she came to my place for the first time. I even took her to her very first hockey game. She would dress so sexy for these dates and you feel the eyes on us, guys trying not to get caught looking and the girls burning a hole through my ATF when we would go into a restaurant. Now she was only a few years younger than me and I look about 5-10 years younger then I am so it wasn't like I was a 40 year old prancing around with an 18 yer old. She was just so hot and dressed provocatively enough, we attracted stares. Most people don't dress like that to go to Olive Garden. lol. She proposed a Friends with Benefits relationship. Money wasn’t exchanged. It was just hang out and have fun. We actually were friends and enjoyed hanging out. She had started a regular job not to far from her place and only worked one day a week at a new club (she was fired from the other where we met) on the weekend.
But unfortunately, it was short lived. My ATF was from Europe. She had not returned there since moving to the US. We were supposed to get together one night. The morning of, she texted me her father had died and she was returning home for the funeral (I knew her father had been sick, so I knew it wasn’t SS). I never heard from her again. I drove by where she was living a few months later to see if her car was there. No such luck. But despite what you might think, I was not devastated by not being able to see her anymore. I enjoyed hanging with her, but I never considered an actual relationship with her and she was just flaky enough at times to make it easy to not be disillusioned at what this friendship was about.
I haven’t done OTC since although I have tried to set it up with a couple of faves. It would have to be the right situation, with the right dancer, at the right price but I would return to this fun and beneficial part of the mongering game if the stars aligned. My schedule makes it difficult.
In my next installment, I’ll cover my experiences with TUSCL Meetups.
PHASE TWO: ITC Extras
Now I was moving into my next phase, the goal to get extras ITC. My first extras experience was not in Phoenix however. From reading reviews, I learned of the wonders of TJ clubs and made a trip to Adelita’s when I was in San Diego on business. I found a hot mexican chica and took her arriba for my first extras experience. Of course, TJ clubs are really legal brothels, so if you want to say this doesn’t count, I won’t argue too hard.
The reviews also helped me on another trip back east a couple weeks later where I found a dive club I thought I might provide some extra fun, I was allowed to touch pretty much anything I wanted to on her and her with me but all over clothes. Alas, due to the obvious cameras in the room, I only came away from this trip with an unexpected LDK. It was right at the end of a 15 or 20-min VIP session. I was having a great time and was turned on but didn’t feel as though I was close to cumming. Then all of sudden boom went the dynamite. She was not aware of the LDK as she wanted to hang out more after the session was over. But I just made a lame excuse and bolted. I might have had my first OTC experience if I had.
My first ITC extras experience in Phoenix was at a dive club known for its handshakes. It is a club I knew nothing about before TUSCL. I had done my research and knew who was down for extra fun and who was not. I knew prices and protocols for the club so even though I was new, I could front as though I had been there before which I was hoping would make it easier to get what I wanted. Well, it worked. I went to the VIP area with my dancer and walked away a happy PL. It was only a HJ, but for someone who had been going to strip clubs around Phoenix for years this was a fantastic and wonderful new world I had to explore with multiple dancers.
I continued to frequent this particular club on a regular basis and received HJ from multiple dancers. Understand, BJ are not possible at this club because of the openness of the VIP area. FS was available with the right dancer, but I had not really tried to close that deal. The level of service I received from each dancer differed. Some gave more of a GFE and others it was all about business. At this particular point, I wasn’t too picky about who it was as long as I was going to walk away a little lighter in the testicular area.
Then in the summer in 2012, I dated a civilian for about 3 months. It was a girl I had known for awhile and always had a crush on her, but she was married. I found out she was no longer married and I went for it. I did not go to any clubs during this time. We had a great rapport and I thought things were going amazingly. Then out of nowhere, things got rough for her at work and she wouldn’t return texts and/or communicate. She actually broke up with me via e-mail. How bad is that? So, broken heart in hand, I returned to clubbing, again down on civilian women but more knowledgeable in what I was returning to. In the years since, I’ve experienced just about everything ITC, HJ, BJ, TF and FS.
Then it, happened, the next phase of my PL’dom occured. A year and a half into my mongering career, I moved into the OTC realm. A dancer I met at the above mentioned club offered me her number and to give me massages along with some additional fun at her place and the price was extremely reasonable. I am not one flush with money, so I had to be careful with how much I’m spending. This dancer turned into my ATF and we had an on again, off again OTC relationship for the next two and a half years.
PHASE THREE: OTC
This phase was a little different for me than most here on TUSCL. I really only OTC’ed with this one dancer. Most others have had multiple OTC dalliances, but to this point, I stuck to what I knew. And was fine with it. I had conversations with other dancers to set OTC up, but as it invariably happens with dancers, it didn’t work out.
Unusual was this OTC as all of our OTC dates were at her place. The first time I went to meet her, I had the fear of a set up. I left everything of value hidden in the car (credit cards, drivers license etc.) I quickly found that my fears were unwarranted, and we had multiple meetups over the next year. Like a stereotypical stripper, she had phone issues, was not great at returning texts and could ghost for a time. She was also good at contacting me for assistance with rent or some other bill. The good thing was she would always say the money would go towards our next date and she would make good. Also, during this time frame she was working towards starting a civilian career which was going to take her out of town. When the job came through, she still owed me for a couple of dates but she ghosted on me. I tried contacting her, but she didn’t return my messages.
At this point I moved on, I always take the mindset, don’t loan money ahead of time if you are not willing to accept it that it is just a gift which may not have any return benefits. You cannot be bitter in these situations. Especially, when you know the risks.
About four months later, the girl who broke up with me by e-mail, started to flirt with me again and after letting her know how bush league breaking up by e-mail was, we embarked on another try at a relationship. I know, I know, I should have never gone back with her. But, I’ll admit it, I was deeply in love with this woman and when you are deeply in love with someone, you don’t always think straight. For a while once again, things were really good. Then almost like clock work, the same things happened again. Work got stressful for her, and I went on the back burner. I tried to hold on longer than I should have, but ultimately after a year together, we broke up again, my heart shattered.
So back to clubbing and almost two months back into the clubbing game, who should return to town and back to stripping? My ATF. I visited her at the club and she was so excited to see me. We quickly got re-acquainted ITC with some extras and she remembered she still owed me OTC dates from before (How many dancers do that? This was a year and half after she had left).
This time around though, the dates were more true “dates”. It wasn’t just provider and john. Before, I would go to her place, hang out and then we would have our fun. This time, we would actually go out. Dinner and a movie or walk around the mall. She made me dinner for my birthday. I made her dinner and she came to my place for the first time. I even took her to her very first hockey game. She would dress so sexy for these dates and you feel the eyes on us, guys trying not to get caught looking and the girls burning a hole through my ATF when we would go into a restaurant. Now she was only a few years younger than me and I look about 5-10 years younger then I am so it wasn't like I was a 40 year old prancing around with an 18 yer old. She was just so hot and dressed provocatively enough, we attracted stares. Most people don't dress like that to go to Olive Garden. lol. She proposed a Friends with Benefits relationship. Money wasn’t exchanged. It was just hang out and have fun. We actually were friends and enjoyed hanging out. She had started a regular job not to far from her place and only worked one day a week at a new club (she was fired from the other where we met) on the weekend.
But unfortunately, it was short lived. My ATF was from Europe. She had not returned there since moving to the US. We were supposed to get together one night. The morning of, she texted me her father had died and she was returning home for the funeral (I knew her father had been sick, so I knew it wasn’t SS). I never heard from her again. I drove by where she was living a few months later to see if her car was there. No such luck. But despite what you might think, I was not devastated by not being able to see her anymore. I enjoyed hanging with her, but I never considered an actual relationship with her and she was just flaky enough at times to make it easy to not be disillusioned at what this friendship was about.
I haven’t done OTC since although I have tried to set it up with a couple of faves. It would have to be the right situation, with the right dancer, at the right price but I would return to this fun and beneficial part of the mongering game if the stars aligned. My schedule makes it difficult.
In my next installment, I’ll cover my experiences with TUSCL Meetups.
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17 comments
CP
When I first started strip clubing i had no idea that extras were available. that was a delightful discovery when it did happen.
i’ve had a couple of OTC experiences and that is something that I need to experience more.
i even had a FWB for three years. that turned out to be sad after a while... and an unexpected expense when she died while i was away for a month.
seems that my experiences with the ladies allways costs me something.
Seems many SCers like the fave model, and having a fave one would assume most SCers would wanna see her OTC.
I never graduated to the OTC stage - I guess it just doesn't go w/ my PL-wiring - as I got older (currently late-40s) I had less and less desire for a relationship and the immediate gratification ITC offered fit me to a tee where I really didn't want for anything else - not having a craving for relationships, and always having liked variety over having a fave, means OTC was not something that overly piqued my interest although I've done it a couple of times - for me OTC somewhat starts to resemble a relationship a bit, which is not what I had been looking-for nor wanted - w/ OTC there starts to feel some strings-attached per se where one becomes a bit more, and sometimes much more, a part of her life - and I don't want any demands/expectations from a woman nor having to deal w/ her problems - w.r.t. OTC, or even just faves, but probably more-so OTC, I think some of her problems, particularly financial-ones, start to become your problems too - I imagine this is not always the case and it can actually be avoided, but it seems fairly-common and I'm not good at saying no - also part of OTC not piquing my interest is that I really like the immediate-gratification aspect of SCing - I rarely plan my SC-visits - I usually go in the spur-of-the-moment when I'm really in-the-mood and that is how I enjoy SCing the most - the planning and logistics involved w/ OTCing kinda don't align w/ the way I like to SC and enjoy SCing.
w.r.t. extras - for most of my PL-career I was not an extras-guy and did not really seek it out nor really wanted it in the SC-context - I started SCing somewhat regularly in 2000 and thru the 2000s got a HJ here or there and an ITC BBBJ once (during a floor-dance at Baby Dolls Dallas of all places - go figure) - I didn't get SC FS till early-2012 soon after joining TUSCL and it was the dancer that initiated it (as described in my lengthy TUSCL article "Barebacked Against My Will") - after my 2012 ITC-FS experience I would get ITC-extras from time-to-time but the majority of my visits were non-extras (in part b/c I like variety as I often post and don't like to spend the bulk/all of my funds on just one-girl via extras) - these days I do extras more frequently than in the past but I don't consider myself an extras-guy in the sense that in most of my visits I don't go w/ extras in mind and if they don't happen I don't consider the visit a waste if I got to enjoy high-mileage dances w/ various dancers - I'll usually get extras in the spur of the moment if I meet the right-dancer on the right-visit - sometimes I'll specifically hit a club w/ extras in mind but that is more of the exception than the norm - also part of the reason I'm not a full-blown extras guy is b/c sex w/ a condom to me kinda doesn't feel like sex; so knowing that I have to wear a condom, or should, decreases my desire for extras.