Why Patrons don’t Buy: A Guide for Entertainers

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john232425
Game recognize game man, game recognize game.
This is from a well-traveled and well-clubbed veteran patron’s perspective.

This is somewhat a response to the question, “She's Pretty, You Like Her, but Why Won't You Buy Dances From Her?”

It is personal preference. When I buy dances my first choice is Asian (as long as there is some fitness present). My second choice is short (5'2" or shorter), small, Caucasians with thigh gap (think Exxxtra small). Third would be busty, Eastern-European women. I don't like tats, and I prefer minimal piercings. If the top and bottom do not coordinate that is also a turn-off (the clothing does not have to be a set, but they need to go together and not clash). Also MUST be polite, have fresh breathe, pleasant odor and a nice, full-toothed smile. If a girl does not fall into one of those categories with the mandatory attributes than I probably will not buy a dance no matter how nice or pretty she might be (though an Aussie or a French accent may make me change my mind). I spend my money on what I most like. If a red and a green car cost the same and my favorite color is red, I will buy the red car. End of story. Same principle applies to dances. I once had a street walker of African origin while visiting Spain offer me a BJ for 20 Euros. I was wanting physical release but ended up paying a Romanian girl 80 Euros for full service less than an hour later. I found my type. In sales you sell yourself more than your product. Stripping combines the salesperson and the product in a way where the product you are selling is you (just like at a job interview). Please do not think that I am implying that you have to sell sex as a stripper or to be a successful stripper - but your companionship and entertainment is what is being sold. If you are an entertainer and just read the first part of this paragraph and thought, “this guy will never buy dances from me, I’m in the wrong profession”, you reached the wrong conclusion. There are many different people with many different preferences. You might not meet my wants, but most likely you will meet someone else’s. Some of the biggest ways to increase your chances of successful income generation with stripping are as follows:

1. Be clean. – Cannot stress this enough. Shower right before coming to work and keep your breathe fresh and preferably do not smoke while at work. Brush your teeth after any food or beverage. Have perfumes or body sprays to use while on shift and use them in moderation – make sure they don’t just smell nice but that they smell nice on you (different people have different oils on their skin that react differently to various products – find what makes you smell greatest). Also use makeup tastefully.

2. Smile. – Find a way to smile that makes men want you. Some people have a great cute, innocent smile, others have an extremely seductive smile, and others have a joyous, genuine smile. Rock out your smile. People spend more when they are feel positive and people feel positive when they are being smiled at. Smiling is also contagious and the response from some customers will make you feel even better. It is a win-win all around.

3. Leave Drama out of Work (a.k.a. the club). – Customers do not care about your work-life balance. That is almost always true. They are there to be entertained; not to be sobbed-storied. Aside from a very few patrons, we don’t care at all about your kids or boyfriend or family and what they are doing. Thinking about children is generally anything but a turn-on (and if it is a turn-on you probably do not want to be spending time with that pedophile-wanna-be anyway). When we are turned on we spend more (our thinking then comes from below the belt). When an entertainer tells me about her family, my wallet closes, my brain checks out and I get bored. Don’t make that mistake (but if a customer asks you about children or family, feel free to share brief highlights but understand that not much money will be made until the conversation transitions).

4. Be you. - Understand and embrace that you will not be everyone’s type. You are you. That is good. Be the best, sexiest, most-positive you that you can be. And enjoy time with the Patrons that want to invest ($$$ vs. just spending time) in you. Also avoid lying. Don’t make up things to share with customers – if there is something you do not want to talk about, shift the conversation. Do not lie. Your body gives you away when you are lying and if nothing else creates a sub-conscious level of unease in the patron. Lying does not win the game for you – teach yourself to avoid it.

5. Ask for the close the right way. – This is basic sales 101. First try to ask open-ended questions. Don’t ask, “Are you having a good time tonight”. Rather ask, “What do you enjoy most about visiting a strip club?” (Examples not rules – find questions that fit you and your audience – worst thing to happen is to sound mechanical while reciting memorized questions). Open-ended questions allow you to discover what the customer wants and enjoys and prioritizes. This gives you knowledge and knowledge is power. Then try to get the customer in a “yes” mindset. Ask small questions that will get him saying “yes” and thinking positively. After that, ask for the sale in a way that is hard to say no to. “Do you want a dance?” is probably the worst question to ask most patrons. “Why don’t we go enjoy a lap dance together?”, will tend to get a much more positive response. It places you on the side of the customer instead of placing you in opposition to the customer. You want to be viewed as a partner with the customer in pursuing a good time and not as a sales person trying to get as much money as you can.

6. Have fun. – If you are not having fun that will turn off the patrons. If you can’t have fun as a stripper you need to find a different profession. You will have off nights – that’s okay. But if most days are a drudgery, do yourself, your club, your co-workers and your patrons a favor and transition to a different career.

Again, as a customer that has significant experience within dozens of strip clubs, these are just my opinions. But I know if a stripper follows the above she will do a much better job of getting my money and the money of most other patrons. After all, we did not go to the club to be budget-minded or to save money. We went to spend and to have a good time. We just need the right entertainer to be worth us parting with our $$$. Happy Entertaining and Happy Clubbing!

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rogertex
8 years ago
Good stuff. I've seen a few dancers do all 5. And yes each banked.
By 5 - meant the first 5. The last one will come automatically.

Majority of customers will not be able to say no to a drama-free, nice smelling, nice hair, smiling dancer who is just being herself.
Yet - we know reality. Majority of strippers are a "piece of work".
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twentyfive
8 years ago
Well written thoughtful and right.
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vincemichaels
8 years ago
Good advice. As a former salesperson and trainer, I could not stress enough to my staff, the importance of smiling, being clean and well groomed and asking open ended questions to draw out prospective customers. Closing the sale is easy, yet necessary.
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
Good advice that will help any dancer - not that employing these tactics is a surefire way to sell dances everytime or even most of the time since as the OP mentioned we all have our type and are usually cognizant of saving our funds for a dancer that is our type vs a happy smiling fresh-breathed one that is not our type; but def the recommendations listed can only help instead of hurt.

I would add that I find contact works on me and puts me on less of a defensive - .e.g. a dancer putting her hand on my shoulder or rubbing my back as she smiles and introduces-herself/talks-to-me is a nice way IMO to break the ice - approaching a custy w/ a smile and a gentle touch IMO is a better choice than plunking yourself uninvited on a custy's lap - this latter approach is a dancer kinda forcing herself on a custy and can often have a defensive reaction w.r.t. the custy - I would think a simple "hello how are you doing tonight" while gently touching him on the shoulder or rubbing his back is a good way to introduce yourself and after a minute or two asking the custy if he'd like some company after you've softened him-up a bit - and if he agrees to your company then either sit on his lap or close to him (making contact if possible) will probably make him warm-up to the dancer more (I think contact can go a long way to warming things up and thawing the ice a bit).
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Subraman
8 years ago
On the one hand, I think those are fine suggestions. On the other, I think it's easy as customers to mistake "here's what works on me" to "this is what works for everyone".

I think most controversial for me is "be you". I would wager pretty big that you don't want her to be her. What has impressed you (and the rest of us) is a stripper presenting an idealized hypersexualized fun version of herself, but doing so in a way that TO US seemed natural. We don't like the girls whose stripper act is obviously faked; we like it when we can't tell she's faking. But anyone who has dated or otherwise become close with a stripper will tell you, you don't want her to be her. Hell, in their honest moments even the strippers will tell you the girls act nothing in the locker room they way they act on the floor, even their voices change... and that locker room version is most assuredly more "her" than the version she presents to you on the floor. You want whatever persona she presents to you to undetectable and delightful; you almost certainly don't really want her to be her.

I have similar comments on some of the other suggestions.

Anyway, I don't think any of those are bad suggestions, I just think it's incredibly easy to conflate "here's what I like" with "here's what all customers like", and "her personality is so natural and fun" with "that's her real personality"
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Papi_Chulo
8 years ago
^ excellent points Subra (and right-on IMO)
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TaraChristine
8 years ago
Honestly I love that you wrote this in partial response to my article. What I've found in the club is even if i'm bored out of my mind (i.e. its slow and every custy in there is already "attended" to) I'll dance around to the music just looking like i'm having the best time ever. I'll go talk to a bouncer if theres no customers available, or go to the dressing room and change. For some reason CHANGING MY OUTFIT doesn't matter what outfit it is (gets sexier as the night goes) seems to always turn it around for me. I wonder why....
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GoVikings
8 years ago
"preferably do not smoke while at work" "Have perfumes or body sprays to use while on shift and use them in moderation"

good overall list, john232425. especially these two comments ^^^^^^^

i hate smoking in general. but i especially hate when women smoke. its a big turn off. but nothing is better than an attractive woman WHO SMELLS GOOD (perfume, no smoke) and has a good attitude. and if she's latina, you better believe she's getting all the money i can afford to give her.

while not every stripper smokes, it seems like many of them do. if you go to a club that doesn't ban smoking, you'll notice that lots of the strippers smoke. i don't know what these girls are thinking. i can only speak for myself, but smelling like a cig probably isn't going to entice dudes to buy dances from you. my guess is, they wanna be up close to a sweet smelling woman---not a woman who reeks of cig smoke
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rogertex
8 years ago
hafta agree with Subra
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PontiacGuy
8 years ago
The author wrote an article I almost completely agree with. Looks get a girl in the door with me but what keeps me is her presentation. I've fallen for "wanna dance" girls that look like a 10 but rarely repeat them. Oftentimes, I laugh at myself that I'm fantasizing about the 7 that had the great and fun personality.

Strippers should focus on the long term. If you hustle a guy you might get a couple hundred $$s, but you probably lost a customer for life. The girls that invest their time with you and cultivate the fantasy will be much more sought after and make much more money long term.

Extras in a classy way at a fair price is another route that is hard to beat, but just getting a fun connection with a clean, good-looking , girl will sell some lap dances too!

I might add something to the list.....don't be on your phone. It's a bad habit, it's lazy, and many of us guys would correlate that action into a lack of imagination or ability to easily have a good time. Save the phone for brief checks in your locker room and make some eye contact with your customer instead.

If a guy doesn't respond to your charm, move on and find someone who will. Don't camp out at his table. It costs you money and blocks him from having a good time. You never know. Maybe you leave, he finds a better connection, and he comes back with a friend or recommends the club to someone who is totally into you and you make money off of them!
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Desiree_Lust
8 years ago
Very very well said, all of you ^^-all very good pointers...Maintaining, for lack of a better term, a "professional demeanor" is so key to building and maintaining a consistent flow of custies throughout the night. Even little things like using manners{ please and thank you's or even a quick 'cheers' after your drinks arrive (as opposed to downing your glass as soon as it hits your hands, instead of waiting to make sure he got his drink too and everything was okie doke). At the end of the day, in the long run, it'll take you so much farther if, you just stop and I mean if it's that slow or that bad, at least ACT like you're enjoying yourself lol I mean negative energy-it can really ruin the experience; these guys can tell when you're not $100 in the moment....woops..er......Lol I mean
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bkkruined
8 years ago
I understand rejection sucks. And always getting turned down is discouraging.
And, guys don't like to be pestered. But, they also don't like to get ignored in a strip club.
So, if you have a guy you've already chatted up and asked and been rejected... And he's been sitting alone for the next hour or two. Maybe stop back and see if he's changed his mind.
I have my preferences. And often I walk into a club and see a bunch of girls that fit that. In the first 15-30 minutes, it's pretty common for ever OTHER girl to come ask me for a dance. With all the girls I was really interested in busy with some regular. 2 hours later, I'm bored, ready to bail. I'd probably take up an offer for a dance with the first girl who is at all attractive, preferences be damned, but they've all gone to ignoring me because I already turned them down.
(But if your stopping by every 5 minutes, I'll be annoyed. And if I get some kinda snotty response when I turn down an offer, there's just no way I'll say yes to that girl next time, even a month or year later, I remember those).
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san_jose_guy
8 years ago
High heels and makeup, and the shoes should be strapped on so that they stay on. Thigh high stockings are nice, as they don't need to be taken off.

After that it is front room GFE. She can still be making money, but if she likes me she will be able to open up to me.

If some women think this is asking too much, well sorry. But I am selective about what girls I engage with, so they should take my interest as flattery.

SJG

http://doxyspotting.com/?p=104739
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DoctorDarby
8 years ago
This is well done as are the many comments, but I am struck by the contradiction the author established at the very beginning. Having made it clear that he won't buy dances from anyone who did not meet his VERY specific criteria (race, height, outfit, etc.) it seems that suggestions that follow would not influence him if they were not connected to his idea types. Thus, no matter how clean, hard-working, personable, and engaging the girl is, she's not getting a dance if she's not a 5'1"Asian with a matching outfit and straight teeth. If we assume that most customers are not as picky as the author, then the general standards of cleanliness, politeness, honesty (which is often a "careful what you asked for" proposition, as noted), and a firm business sense will work for most of us. But as also noted by several commenters, individual Tastes and Expectation May Vary widely (T&EMV) from one PL to the other, at which point these standards go out the window.
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john232425
8 years ago
@DoctorDarby - My intention was to briefly discuss that we all have personal preferences, but the main goal was to discuss how that accompanying traits (cleanliness, smiling, etc) were still necessary to open my wallet. Apologize for any ambiguity but the focus of the article was intended to be on the traits that all the entertainers can master and not on my own personal preferences (and I do have quite a few "types" as we all will tend to). If the entertainers does all she can, it will maximize her ability to generate income even if she is not my type. Never heard a guy say he would rather have a girl with bad breath over one with fresh breath (though some might not care either way). BTW, many good points and additions from all the comments. Did not expect so many people to respond and respond positively to this. So thanks to all!
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Timex345
8 years ago
Make small talk and be respectful of my time is big for me.
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Juslovin
8 years ago
Agree with point 2 and 6 in a big way. Positive energy is big for me.
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Jascoi
8 years ago
good points all. now girl... bring it on!!!
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