How Not to Take A Stripper Shopping - Part II
Shopping with our little ingénue had not quite gone the way we anticipated but all-in-all was a pleasurable experience for both of us. After leaving the mall, we headed back to our motel for a bit. I had some work to crank out and my wife wanted to use the Jacuzzi in the room to relax. As we drove back to the hotel we decided that we were about 70% convinced that our little ingénue did not understand the implications of what she had suggested. Just as we were discussing what to do - or not do - next, my wife received a text message. It said, "Thank you very much for the outfits. I will wear them for you tonight. What time will you be there?" My wife responded that she would text when we knew an approximate time as it just depended how my work went.
We arrived back at our motel. My wife enjoyed the Jacuzzi and took a short nap while I worked. (Don't feel too bad for me as I got a nice BJ while I was on the conference call…) Just as my wife was getting out of the Jacuzzi her phone rang. Guess who? My wife explained I was still working and that we did not know a time yet. (The work was NOT going well.) Our dancer asked if we wanted her to book the VIP room for us as it was filling up. Without even batting an eye my wife informed her that she was not sure we would pay for the VIP room since we had already spent $150 shopping. Mrs m00tpoint told her that when a customer takes a stripper shopping it is with the expectation that there will be some sort of OTC activity on the table. Our stripper was shocked and we don't think it was an act. (We think she was so new she just heard some of the other girls talking about things they had received or being taken shopping by customers and not understood what else they might be/were doing.) Mrs m00tpoint explained that we were not looking for FS as that is not within our own boundaries but that we were looking for a playmate that both of us could pleasure. The stripper said she understood and would see what she could work out.
About 15 min later she called again. We knew that she had spoken to her friend and been advised on how to proceed. It seems her friend has now advised her that what we told her about OTC being the norm is correct but mrs m00t can hear in her young voice that she is not happy about it. Mrs m00t tells her that we had a good time with her this afternoon and hope to make it to the club later but that there are no hard feelings and we wish her luck. She hangs up and then proceeds to climb back into bed where I am sitting working. Three more text messages come in. Mrs m00t reads them but does not respond. They are thanking us again for the outfits, asking if she can book us a VIP room and the final one saying that she was sure we could work something out for ITC. After I finish working I take care of my husbandly duties and we both crash.
We woke up about 8 PM in enough time for me to check on my work issue. Which, unfortunately, was still not going well. (Thankfully, we had decent beer in the room…) Mrs m00t proceeds to get ready to go to the club. She then texts our stripper that we are still uncertain as to time but that we will be there. The phone rings within minutes and they agree that we will pay the house room fee for the Champagne room which includes a $75 bar tab (which does not last long with mrs m00t's preference for Patron…..LOL) but nothing else for her for the 30 min in the Champagne room. Mrs m00t also agrees to be responsible for the mandatory $25 tip for the waitress. At this point we are at $250 total outlay for the champagne room if the shopping trip is included. This is about $75 more than what the regular sticker is for the room but we would tip on top of the costs and that would bring us to a bit less or just even. We agree to have her book the Champagne room for midnight.
When we arrive at the club it is already pretty busy. The parking lot is almost full and there is, much to our dismay, a white school bus in front of the doors. This clearly is their shuttle bus. Once inside we pay our admission and find seats. Within moments our dancer greets us and sits down. We offer to buy her a drink but she declines saying that she has to leave in a moment because she has to go on stage for a bachelor party gig. My heart falls. Mrs m00t HATES those damn bachelor party gimmicks with a passion. I will admit they do nothing for me either. However, she takes that opportunity to order another Patron shot and feel me up under the table with her stocking-clad foot so I manage to get through it.
We watch the stage shows tipping when someone catches our eye or does particularly inspiring pole work. When the "friend" of our stripper goes on stage mrs m00t makes sure to go to the rail and tip generously while complimenting her pole work. (She is undoubtedly the best we have seen in that department.) She wanted to reassure the friend that we knew the rules and how things worked. Within a few moments our dancer returned from freshening up after her bachelor party stage stint. She asked if we would like to move up the time for the Champagne room but we were not ready so we declined. As she left the table, she leaned over and breathed in my wife's ear, "I think I like girls. I am excited to go to the Champagne room with you two." It was, I am sure, coached but it was also highly effective.
Midnight came and so did our time for the Champagne room. Our stripper came by to let us know that the room was still in use but that we were a couple of names down the list. Apparently someone had extended their time in the room so we were moved back. Ok. We understand this happens. Mrs m00t pointed out that a young professionally dressed man a couple of tables behind us had been sitting alone all evening. A couple of dancers had approached him but he did not seem to be interested in their type.(Again the Norma Wallace thing…) She urged our dancer to go over and try to sell him a private dance. She did and walked by us a few minutes later with him in tow headed to the lap dance area.
Just as we ordered another round of beer my damn pager went off. The project that they had been working on that evening was not going any better. In fact, it was going worse. Mrs m00t was also beginning to not feel well. I exchanged a few emails back and forth via my pager and we decided we needed to go. Our dancer was still in the back with her new customer so mrs m00t sent a text message to let her know we had to leave due to a work issue. Drat!
Once back in the room I worked for about an hour. Our stripper sent a text message asking if we were coming back. We talked about it but were just not sure the change I put in was going to resolve the issue. We declined. Plus mrs m00t now had a nasty headache going on. (Only one thing cures a really nasty headache for her…….*wink*)
Since that day, we have heard from our stripper multiple times. The most recent was yesterday asking when we were coming back because she "owes" us a "good time." I have no doubt that when our schedule allows, we will return to Kappa to collect. Where it will ultimately go or not go, I am not yet sure but regardless it was worth the money we spent.
I am sure some of you would be very disappointed with this experience. We were not. It gave me a chance to watch mrs m00t living out a small portion of one of her fantasies and to dabble on the fringe of one of her favorite New Orleans characters Norma Wallace. It also was a huge learning experience for us both. And given that learning experiences usually have steep price tags, this one was really not too bad.
We arrived back at our motel. My wife enjoyed the Jacuzzi and took a short nap while I worked. (Don't feel too bad for me as I got a nice BJ while I was on the conference call…) Just as my wife was getting out of the Jacuzzi her phone rang. Guess who? My wife explained I was still working and that we did not know a time yet. (The work was NOT going well.) Our dancer asked if we wanted her to book the VIP room for us as it was filling up. Without even batting an eye my wife informed her that she was not sure we would pay for the VIP room since we had already spent $150 shopping. Mrs m00tpoint told her that when a customer takes a stripper shopping it is with the expectation that there will be some sort of OTC activity on the table. Our stripper was shocked and we don't think it was an act. (We think she was so new she just heard some of the other girls talking about things they had received or being taken shopping by customers and not understood what else they might be/were doing.) Mrs m00tpoint explained that we were not looking for FS as that is not within our own boundaries but that we were looking for a playmate that both of us could pleasure. The stripper said she understood and would see what she could work out.
About 15 min later she called again. We knew that she had spoken to her friend and been advised on how to proceed. It seems her friend has now advised her that what we told her about OTC being the norm is correct but mrs m00t can hear in her young voice that she is not happy about it. Mrs m00t tells her that we had a good time with her this afternoon and hope to make it to the club later but that there are no hard feelings and we wish her luck. She hangs up and then proceeds to climb back into bed where I am sitting working. Three more text messages come in. Mrs m00t reads them but does not respond. They are thanking us again for the outfits, asking if she can book us a VIP room and the final one saying that she was sure we could work something out for ITC. After I finish working I take care of my husbandly duties and we both crash.
We woke up about 8 PM in enough time for me to check on my work issue. Which, unfortunately, was still not going well. (Thankfully, we had decent beer in the room…) Mrs m00t proceeds to get ready to go to the club. She then texts our stripper that we are still uncertain as to time but that we will be there. The phone rings within minutes and they agree that we will pay the house room fee for the Champagne room which includes a $75 bar tab (which does not last long with mrs m00t's preference for Patron…..LOL) but nothing else for her for the 30 min in the Champagne room. Mrs m00t also agrees to be responsible for the mandatory $25 tip for the waitress. At this point we are at $250 total outlay for the champagne room if the shopping trip is included. This is about $75 more than what the regular sticker is for the room but we would tip on top of the costs and that would bring us to a bit less or just even. We agree to have her book the Champagne room for midnight.
When we arrive at the club it is already pretty busy. The parking lot is almost full and there is, much to our dismay, a white school bus in front of the doors. This clearly is their shuttle bus. Once inside we pay our admission and find seats. Within moments our dancer greets us and sits down. We offer to buy her a drink but she declines saying that she has to leave in a moment because she has to go on stage for a bachelor party gig. My heart falls. Mrs m00t HATES those damn bachelor party gimmicks with a passion. I will admit they do nothing for me either. However, she takes that opportunity to order another Patron shot and feel me up under the table with her stocking-clad foot so I manage to get through it.
We watch the stage shows tipping when someone catches our eye or does particularly inspiring pole work. When the "friend" of our stripper goes on stage mrs m00t makes sure to go to the rail and tip generously while complimenting her pole work. (She is undoubtedly the best we have seen in that department.) She wanted to reassure the friend that we knew the rules and how things worked. Within a few moments our dancer returned from freshening up after her bachelor party stage stint. She asked if we would like to move up the time for the Champagne room but we were not ready so we declined. As she left the table, she leaned over and breathed in my wife's ear, "I think I like girls. I am excited to go to the Champagne room with you two." It was, I am sure, coached but it was also highly effective.
Midnight came and so did our time for the Champagne room. Our stripper came by to let us know that the room was still in use but that we were a couple of names down the list. Apparently someone had extended their time in the room so we were moved back. Ok. We understand this happens. Mrs m00t pointed out that a young professionally dressed man a couple of tables behind us had been sitting alone all evening. A couple of dancers had approached him but he did not seem to be interested in their type.(Again the Norma Wallace thing…) She urged our dancer to go over and try to sell him a private dance. She did and walked by us a few minutes later with him in tow headed to the lap dance area.
Just as we ordered another round of beer my damn pager went off. The project that they had been working on that evening was not going any better. In fact, it was going worse. Mrs m00t was also beginning to not feel well. I exchanged a few emails back and forth via my pager and we decided we needed to go. Our dancer was still in the back with her new customer so mrs m00t sent a text message to let her know we had to leave due to a work issue. Drat!
Once back in the room I worked for about an hour. Our stripper sent a text message asking if we were coming back. We talked about it but were just not sure the change I put in was going to resolve the issue. We declined. Plus mrs m00t now had a nasty headache going on. (Only one thing cures a really nasty headache for her…….*wink*)
Since that day, we have heard from our stripper multiple times. The most recent was yesterday asking when we were coming back because she "owes" us a "good time." I have no doubt that when our schedule allows, we will return to Kappa to collect. Where it will ultimately go or not go, I am not yet sure but regardless it was worth the money we spent.
I am sure some of you would be very disappointed with this experience. We were not. It gave me a chance to watch mrs m00t living out a small portion of one of her fantasies and to dabble on the fringe of one of her favorite New Orleans characters Norma Wallace. It also was a huge learning experience for us both. And given that learning experiences usually have steep price tags, this one was really not too bad.
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Good luck to you both...and happy hunting!
I enjoy your posts. Keep 'em coming.
Also, check out my latest post on the discussion board. At least your girl didn't call you a serial killer! lol
In this economy and competitive industry, I would expect things to move much more quickly, and to the point.
Happy hunting, and good luck.
More straight forward, less hassle, and you are dealing with a pro. Dancers often make lousy hookers.
AND I have no idea where you think you got your $300 figure. We never posted that was what we spent for this dancer. I will admit we DID spend $300 at Club O for a VIP room once. And, no, in Chicagoland you could not get a hooker for $300 IF that was what we were seeking.
With all due respect, I disagree. I find that many dancers make some of the *best* hookers, for a variety of reasons. For one thing, as a group, they are generally younger and better looking than hookers in general. Escorts bring the average on the looks category up a bit for the hooker side, but are also, IME, more expensive for the same level and duration of service than a stripper would be for OTC. In addition, again IME, law enforcement is less likely to be a factor in a stripper OTC gig.
Look, the girl pulled a classic on you. Obviously she had no way of knowing how much she would get on the shopping trip, but it was no sweat off of the dancer's brow as she didn't have to do anything other than listen to your wife babble for a couple of hours. Your last trip to the club was just a continuation of the stringalong.
As a little side note, I understand that giving "advice" on how to be sexy is part of your wife's gig, but I can guarantee that the girl really didn't give a fuck what about what your wife had to say about pretty much anything, nor for that matter will just about any other stripper. To them she is just another non-dancer trying to run the knowledgable customer routine, but no doubt they will humor her in order to sell dances, get free clothes, etc.
As lopaw said, this dancer is not going to give you what you are looking for. She is running classic games on you. You'd be better served by finding a more interested dancer, and I ma sure that she exist in one of the clubs that you frequent.
In any event, good luck.
As far as what we are "trying to accomplish" we are following up on the numerous private requests we got to publish more on this. If accomplishing something is the deal on this board then I submit everyone is wasting their time and efforts. We were under the impression this was a DISCUSSION board and not that accomplishing something was the goal. Wow! Guess I will have a busy day posting comments on every thread on here that does not meet that guideline!
As far as what the stripper thinks or doesn't, you are in no better position to judge that definitively than we are. Would you care for posters to rip on what you seek in visits? If the "Norma Wallace" thing does it for me, then who are you to try an negate my fantasy? For the record, the young stripper ASKED when she found out we visited other clubs. If you had seen this girl before and after, and not just with us, you would know for a fact she was new and inexperienced. Unless you are a stripper or personal friends with this one in particular, I don't see how you can "guarantee" what any of them think or feel. In our ingenue's own words, "I really need a friend and I appreciate you letting me bounce my costume ideas off of you and giving me your input. It's not like I can ask my mother and most of the other girls here won't help because they are afraid someone will steal their customers." She then went on to tell us two of her friends in the club who had helped (but who had totally different style than suited her in our opinion. Seeing her enact the suggestions on other customers also is proof in the pudding so to speak that it was not just lip service. She really did want to learn.
As we have said numerous times, we are NOT out looking for FS with someone. It is ALL about the fantasy for us and some soft play. From your posts, that is not what you look for in a SC visit. No surprise that your colored glasses would be different from ours.
mrs m00tpoint
Anyway, you've repeatedly said you're not interested in sex, so for the kind of soft-core play that you seem to be describing, yeah, I'd expect it to be less than $200 OTC. ITC in Louisville will be higher, because the club is gonna want their significant cut, and insist on double payment because there's two of you. VIP for an hour around here is typically in the $180-200 range normally, though PTs and Trixie's will charge almost that for a half hour, with no guarantee that the club will let you get away with even the soft-core stuff.
That said, I've got to say that the deal the dancer was willing to cut you, pay the house their fee and she'd give you an ITC experience without additional compensation, sounds like a pretty good deal to me, if $150 was about what you would have paid her otherwise inside the club. The value of gifts, even if it's something she wants, have to be heavily discounted when compared to plain cash (as do drinks, fake house money, etc.). And while different clubs work differently, I doubt there's much of any payout on the money you give her in a VIP, if the club is already getting you for rent on the room, plus maybe a bar tab.
Not that she was doing you a favor: she'd only make that offer if she thought she could get repeat business from you as a result. After all, there's opportunity cost in going with you to the VIP when she's already been paid in shoes. And even if she couldn't have gotten any lap dances or VIPs during the time she spends with you, she might be doing herself (well, her wallet) harm in three ways. One, I think a lot of guys don't want to spend lap dances on dancers who frequent the VIP. They're afraid of upsell. Second, that's time she could be working the floor or the pole and getting guys interested in dances later in the night. Plus dancers only have so much energy in an evening. Use it up on the two of you and she won't be as focused at 3am (or whenever).