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@Papi yea that makes a lot of sense honestly

@Muddy, thank you for that!

Which cities tend to have clubs with better mileage?

@Papi, ah that makes sense. Thanks man

What would I exactly write an article on wrt Hawaii clubs?

It was also nice flirting with the little Spanish I know haha

@Papi, The white dancers at Hustlers were mainly approaching white guys, and staying with the older white guys the longest. I’m guessing either bc of common stereotypes of the rich old white dude, or they’re just regulars. And at Rick’s it was even more obvious- dancers would typically start off by going to guys of their own race. Similar to Hustlers, I got approached by only Latina dancers, which I personally love. All of them (the Rick’s Latina dancers who approached me) 9/10 looks and body wise without a doubt.

@Papi, yea it was pretty humiliating if I’m being honest. The one dancer who approached me at Hustlers/Lido lounge is Mexican or Latina and my age, and started last summer. She said she came mainly bc she thought I was cute- I knew it wasn’t stripper shit bc we both revealed more than the average dancer-customer, as she knew I am never coming back here and don’t live here. Her friend, who’s mixed but passes as white, came to me only bc the first dancer brought her over after building trust with and opening up to me. The second dancer opened up even more haha. This second dancer friend was even newer, just started a month ago. They both were asking me for advice/tips (not tip$) on how to do better, since I have been to a few clubs by now and used to be a dancer.

Personally, I would recommend clubbing in Hawaii. Post pandemic clubbing is my norm, since that’s when I started, but from what I’ve heard things have drastically changed for the better in the Hawaii clubbing scene compared to pre-pandemic. It was far less contact pre-pandemic. The dancers, especially at Ballarinas and 939, are as hot if not hotter than the ones in NYC

Went to Rick’s Ca after right after. Definitely better than Hustler’s (which was supposed to have LeRouge/Lido Lounge, which I originally came for) but still similar shit. Table dances out on the main floor, $20 per dance and drinks for the dancer are $20 too. Although the prices are cheaper than Hawaii, the quality of both the dances and drink time were inferior compared to those in Hawaii in my honest opinion. This goes for both Hustlers (Hell’s Kitchen) and Rick’s. Plus, Hawaii just has more inclusivity and not a bunch of FiDi people coming in all the time. The two dancers at Rick’s whom I got table dances from allowed me to touch everywhere except for upstairs and downstairs, but could touch the booty, which is definitely better than Hustlers. One of the two dancers even took me to the secluded, corner part of the main floor for the same $20 dance- it was pretty much a private dance with 2-way contact minus up and downstairs. As for the drinks, the dancers would talk to customers for maybe 5-10 minutes and leave. And this was on a week night. In Hawaii it’s usually 20-30 minutes on week nights. Plus, way more 2-way contact in HI and fully nude (which neither of the clubs allow even in VIP), granted it’s $100 for 3 songs typically in HI.

Mixed: South asian, white, a little East Asian

Sorry, clicked submit my mistake. To continue: …customer, as the dancers here can afford to be picky. This club is very fancy and it’s clear that it attracts a lot of FiDi guys, which many dancers here validated.

Alright boys, I went to one today a few hours ago, it’s called Lido Lounge (formerly LeRouge lounge). It rotates SCs through all the burroughs I believe. This week it’s at Larry Flint’s Hustler club on the far west end in Hells Kitchen. The reason I went to this one was bc of an article you wrote in August last year, Muddy. It was very different from your review, as there was no two way touching allowed and no curtained communal LD room, however… that is because Lido Lounge wasn’t there tonight, according to a couple of the dancers I talked to. All these dancers were solely Hustler dancers and it was very easy to tell: They were all 8-10 face, 9-10 body, and were very very picky. One of the newer dancers my age (20’s) was the only one to willingly come up to me. After building some trust answered my question of why dancers were not approaching me but approaching all the old white guys, saying that a lot of the guys both my skin color and ethnicity rarely pay anything, so a good chunk of the experienced dancers (1+ years) avoid people who look like that. It’s fucked, but it is what it is and hey, it’s New York. She was teaching me all the body language behaviors that can show that you’re rich (which I’m not) without flexing or making it so obvious, which I thought was cool. I got a dance from her- it was a table dance, fully clothed, a fair amt of grinding (she told me in this club contact depends on whether the dancer likes the customer, as customer

Also want to add: I’m sorry to those I’ve not been able to message back (both privately and in the discussion I started about what it means when a dancer gives her number/socials). I’ve just been really busy with work and now traveling. I’ll get back to y’all soon (you know who you are)

Lol @K

@K, forgot to write this in my recent reply but I asked the IG dancer why, when she asked for my IG. I recall her saying “bc you’re cool” or something along those lines. However, I didn’t push the question further and definitely didn’t downright ask if she’s doing it for OTC or wanting me to come to the club again, which I think I should have.

@Call.Me.Ishmael, Thank you for that last comment. Quite honestly, I didn’t think much about the long-term repercussions of using my regular phone for exchanging contacts/social media with dancers, until reading your comment. It reminds me of the celebrities who are getting cancelled bc of one or a couple naive, ignorant or downright stupid decisions or comments they made when they were younger. I’m still not sure if I’d be willing to go out of my way to get a burner atm, but I’ll compromise for that right now by not openly giving my number or even my real social media just bc a dancer asks for it, regardless of the extent of our rapport

@K, I think there may be a slight misunderstanding? I had talked to all three dancers for a decent amount of time- two of them never once asking for drinks or LDs- before they added me. The IG dancer and I chatted for 40-45 minutes. She stayed even though I declined the waitress a drink for her the first time. She asked for my IG somewhere midway. I bought her one drink ($20) some time after that. The Snapchat dancer and I talked for around 20 min and right before I left she said to add her personal snap account. As for the phone number dancer, yea that was a little weird. Basically, we both found out that a problem I’m currently facing falls under her line of work during the day, so she offered her services. I obviously declined while still making jokes and being playful but she still had me add my number in her phone, which I was fine with. She also mentioned how she found it refreshing that I was her age and “I was the only one dressed and smelling nice” since most of her custies don’t, according to her. She didn’t do the whole “you’re handsome, charming” bs either. The closest it got to that was when she said “I guess you’re kinda cute”, with a bit of attitude (and stuck with it when I jokingly gave her a hard time on the “kinda”). But then again, maybe she’s playing 4-D chess, who knows.

@Papi, Thank you, that was a firm but necessary reality check that I needed. Please excuse my naivety, and I'm sure you and other TUSCLers can tell I'm young (I'm in my 20's)

Btw guys, this isn’t a troll or bs question. I’m fairly new to the SCs, was genuinely curious

@Subra (and anyone else with similar comments), wrt to your first message: Holy shit that makes a lot of sense now- all three added me when they found out I was from here. They know a local is likely more profitable than a tourist (albeit I don’t permanently live here- I’m bw here and the mainland)

@Papi, wrt to your 2nd comment: So she could essentially be playing the long con? Your third comment makes sense- yea, seems transactional Lmao your last comment, def the TUSCL. I wish I made 350K lol

@Call.Me.Ishmael, I don’t have a burner lol. She didn’t either. As for the IG girl, yes that seemed to be a club account- almost every post is her being as nude as one can w/o breaking IG guidelines.

@K, I asked two of the three separately why they added me. IG one said she liked my vibe, thought I was cool. Probably stripper shit, idk. Cell phone one said similar shit.

@Papi, surprisingly enough there was a pretty hot woman (again, non-stripper) who was visiting the SC with her guy friends and hitted on me. She moved to an older guy when she realized I was a few years younger than her. The last venue I’d imagine that taking place but hey, can’t complain lol