discussion comment
4 years ago
"for you own good" please nobody tell me what the fuck to do unless I ask for advice. I created this thread to educate and share my experience. Nowhere in this did I ask for help or advice. I explained my plan and am sticking to it. I trust people who have worked in the porn industry for 10+ years more than I trust strip club patrons (no offense). Thank you.
discussion comment
4 years ago
I changed my stage name as it is a trademarked phrase. My PR's lawyer looked into it and advised I should change it, but didn't necessarily have to since it it's in a separate industry. If that performer were still active, it would have come up by now as well.
discussion comment
4 years ago
"May ask you why?"
We all have our kinks. 😏
discussion comment
4 years ago
I appreciate your concern, but I trust the advice of the people in the industry who are currently guiding me.
And I will only do content with people who are in the adult entertainment industry and can show me negative TTS results because I am not risking catching anything.
discussion comment
4 years ago
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gothamytefrom that Adam Westsiiiide of Gotham
Yes. And omg did I see some crazy shit.
discussion comment
4 years ago
I see your point, but it is not like that everywhere currently. As others have suggested, Florida and Texas are mostly open. Michigan is open with limited hours (with the exception of one extras club open until 2am). My escort friends in Michigan and Chicago are doing fine. And as for porn, which I got into recently, talent that does not live in LA, Vegas, or Miami do have a more difficult time, but those that do live in those areas are still getting bookings (just not as many as pre-covid according to my agent). Covid did hurt the industry, but there will always be a supply and demand for sex work. Right now, while it sucks financially, it's just a waiting period for the pandemic to end.
If you are in the Shenanigans Facebook group or any of the other major ones, girls are frequently posting looking for suggestions of where to work. And others are responding. There are options out there.
discussion comment
4 years ago
"if the person is smart and going to move ahead.. they will begin DEVELOPING CONTENT and not shooting for other people.
DEVELOPMENT of CONTENT (that you own the IP/copyright on) is much better than getting paid..
with the advent of low price cameras, cheap lighting.. anyone can be a content developer.. then simply adding a paywall between the masturbater and the person, can provide income of $10k - $100k per month for shooting as few as 4 scenes a month
people want what they cannot easily get, additionally a good IP attorney kept on the payroll will keep your content private.. hopefully this is what her agent is telling her.. but i doubt it"
I'm sure he was joking. And my PR covered most of that. My problem is finding the time to shoot my own stuff. I work a day job (9-6) and finding the free time and energy to put on whore makeup and spend hours getting the perfect shots is difficult for me to do. This is why I don't update my Only Fans often. I simply just do not have the time or energy for it with a day job. My ideal outcome is: keep my day job for the moment for the guaranteed income aspect, go to LA/Vegas for a week and shoot and network as much as I can, get a fat ass pay check to hold me over for at least two months with whatever I do in LA, quit my day job, then start creating customs and putting my own stuff out there. Right now, nobody knows who I am except that I'm somehow affiliated with all of these porn people on Twitter and Instagram. I have nothing to show anybody right now, but if I get more scenes filmed, I'll have even more of a reason to quit my day job and would have the energy and time to put into creating content. The idea of being a porn companion came up as well. If I can do that and go to one of the three cities for a week every two or three months, I'm certain I would be okay.
But the pandemic and economic uncertainty it's bringing has me holding onto this day job in the meantime. I have to be realistic and know that the success I'm craving won't happen overnight.
discussion comment
4 years ago
"top end of porn is 2000-2500 per shoot for a female
average makes around 800-1000 per shoot
low-end people in miami pay around 500 per shoot
slightly more for doing specialities such as ANAL
expenses are paid for most. (such as make-up artist etc...)"
Yes. That's mostly on point. However, flights, food, and hotel stays are not paid for. Mine were in Phoenix, but that's because that studio caters to helping launch porn careers and they recognize the difficulty in getting started. When I go to LA next month, I will have to pay for my flight and living situation on my own. Many agents have "model houses" for traveling talent to rent, which is what I plan to do. My PR told me 90% of shoots will have a makeup artist though (which is great because I can't do makeup for shit).
discussion comment
4 years ago
"5. Would you be willing down the road to get into super freaky/kinky kind of porn shoots? Did you get any offers to do that kind of stuff yet?"
I WANT TO SHOOT FOR THE GANGBANG CREAMPIE SERIES FOR AZIANI STUDIOS!!!!!!! But my PR told me I should hold off on the gangbangs right now until I get more scenes out. My agent suggested interracial porn to me. I've never done anal, but told him I'm willing to try it if it will get me more opportunities. Same with eating pussy. I don't really want to do it, but I will if I have to. (I have no fucking idea how though.) Light bdsm is fine, but not hardcore torture bdsm. I told the male talent I was with that I'm a switch, but more of a submissive and it just kinda became that while shooting. It wasn't planning, but he basically became a dom during the shoot.
discussion comment
4 years ago
"1)How much do you make per shoot?
2)How many scenes do you need to shoot in a year to make a decent living?
3)How many years do you plan on working in the industry?
4)Are fluffers a real job on a porn set?"
1.) During my initial conversation with my agent at the beginning of January, he informed me studios pay between $1,000 and $3,000 per scene. It also depends on what the performer is willing to do and how far they are willing to take it.
2.) So, what typically happens for those who travel to one of the three cities porn is shot in (LA, Vegas, Miami) is the performer will stay a week or two given their agent set up enough scenes for them. Porn is shot during business hours (M-F 9-5) and I was told sometimes more than one scene could be shot in a day. So let's say I go to LA for a week, like I'm planning to do next month. My agent gets me one scene per day at a minimum of $1,000 per shoot. That's a $5,000 pay check I'm taking home. I can work as much as I want also. If I only want to do a few a year, then fine. So a decent living can happen quite easily if the performer wants to work like that.
3.) I have no idea. I've always had an interest in it and now that I'm in, I want to make up for lost time in a way.
4.) They aren't a thing really. The male talent I shot with was his own fluffer lol. However, we took breaks in between positions and he managed to stay hard even during breaks. Fluffers might be a thing in skeezy low budget porn though. I don't know.
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4 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Well, Jackslash has a good point as well. Plus, I think USASG allows listings.
discussion comment
4 years ago
One more pro about working with a studio is credibility. Right now, while nothing is out, people are trying to take advantage of me. But once scenes are out, scammers are (hopefully) less likely to see me as naive and target me less.
discussion comment
4 years ago
As for outing myself, that was my own choice and I thought about it before doing it. My agent told me that regardless of how hard I try to hide this from the world, everybody will find out. I might be able to get away with hiding it for a while, but eventually it will come out.
Sex work has been my life since 2013 up until the start of the pandemic when everything closed down. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to live two separate lives because of customers finding me on Facebook through other dancers who friended them. And the same happened on instagram. and I would receive messages on both platforms from people who reminded me that I gave them a dance or they met me at the club. Girls would also show my information to customers.
So I decided I didn't want to give somebody the liberty to out me with this and I would do it myself and for myself. that way the truth comes from me and not from hearsay where potential rumors could start.
It is much easier for customers to have separate lives than it is for girls who work in sex work. The amount of private messages and text messages that come our way makes it challenging to have a separate life. And I'm sure any other entertainer on here would agree with me.
I decided to make this my life and I'm even considering the possibility of moving to LA or Vegas because I want to be successful with it. I want to be in a position to where I am travel ready for any shoot that might come my way and unfortunately, I can't be travel ready being in Michigan with a day job.
I know people can be assholes and liars. I know people will try to scam me. But I'm not used to receiving messages like that and that's why I was so surprised.
Again though, I would rather have doxed myself than have somebody do it for me. That way, the information I want out there is known rather than rumors.
discussion comment
4 years ago
There was a lot that happened behind the scenes I thought was hilarious. I definitely don't watch porn in the same manner now after knowing what's going on on the other side of the camera.
If it's a well-known studio, then it will certainly reach a much larger audience. The exposure talent can receive from performing for a studio could help with selling independent and custom content (Only Fans, Porn Hub Models, etc). the series I shot for already had a fan created subReddit before the website was officially launched
discussion comment
4 years ago
Omg, right?! 🙄
Kindly get out of my discussion thread take your negativity elsewhere.
discussion comment
4 years ago
So it isn't actually law enforcement per se. It's the prosecutor who will be ignoring consensual sex cases brought to him. One of the articles I read, other than the one above, quoted him saying he will look the other way when it comes to those crossing his desk.
So in reality, it's just a really cool prosecutor. LE are still haters.
discussion comment
4 years ago
"My only question would be did you actually enjoy shooting the scene or did all of the other aspects make the sex less enjoyable for you?"
The male tqlent was phenomenal. He knows how to use what he has and I was impressed at how well he was able to keep himself from cumming while also playing dom also keeping an eye on the viewfinders of the cameras around us.
I actually had a lot of fun hanging out with everybody. They made it a really great experience and I felt like I was hanging out with a group of friends.
And because I was so comfortable hanging around them, I said a lot of dumb shit on camera. 🤦🏼♀️
We shot almost the entire day between two different sets (I am counting the back seat of The producers Porsche as a set). I was enjoying myself so much that I kept forgetting I was shooting porn. I struggled to keep my legs open so the cameras could get good views and at one point the male talent had to hold one leg down and the producer was holding my ankle in place (out of frame) while still filming. I kept grabbing the blanket and messing it up when they wanted the bed to appear nice and neat for the scene. The crew member (water boy, lube boy, backup cameraman, anything we needed during breaks person) had to hold the blanket down out of frame so I would stop messing it up while the male talent was still fucking me. 😂
So toward the end, I decided to stop enjoying it so much and fake it a little so I could focus more on putting on a show for the cameras around me.
discussion comment
4 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
Escort Monkey
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Those are low end sites. The high end sites are
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You're welcome.
discussion comment
4 years ago
Michigan. Same county that the University of Michigan and Eastern Michigan University are in.
review comment
4 years ago
My club isn't Henry's either. From the sounds of your review, you wouldn't even be able to afford getting into the door at my club without having a bitch fit about prices. 😂
review comment
4 years ago
Thank you for replying. I'm so used to reading reviews from guys who expect quality services at Flight Club for Bogarts/Henry's prices and then shaming and condescending the women. I really do apologize. When guys say dancers have GPS for asking for anything over $300, especially at Flight, I want to inform them of what happens behind the scenes that may lead to those prices because a lot of customers forget we have to pay the club.
Selling for over $200 at any other metro Detroit club, in my opinion, would be GPS. But not at Flight, especially with the pimp girl groups (there are more there than the Currency Queens).
Also, unrelated and a mini rant, but whenever I work at a club and girls are talking about prices, the cheapest girl in hearing range usually always price shames others. I pay attention to that because I want to know the price ranges I'm working with when I go to a new club. I always ask what the average prices are and typically drop $100 off of what I'm told because no one ever wants to admit that they're selling services for less than $400-$500. I act like I'm new and have never danced before to figure out what everybody else is doing and how much things are being sold for. Sorry for the ramble.
But, anyway, I totally respect your review and your mature response. Thanks for being cool.
review comment
4 years ago
Thank you for helping the homeless. Super cool of you.
Amongst a plethora of clubs to choose from, who gives a fuck why this one was closed for a weekend. No offense, but asking is fishing for drama (most likely for USASG).
review comment
4 years ago
Aww wittle crybaby is sad because the real men of the site don't agree with him. I am a proud cunt, so thank you for the compliment, sir. And stay the fuck out of my club. Trash like you isn't welcome.
review comment
4 years ago
GPS isnt so much of the issue here when we have to pay a minimum of $150 to the club, dj, and house mom every shift - and that's on time. Please consider we are renting the space to make money in and our tip out is that rent. If you were looking for less than $200, FC is not the club. I've written a laid out description of the breakdown in fees we pay at Flight and it was effective for others in understanding why prices here are so high.
discussion comment
4 years ago
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shailynnThey never tell you what you need to know.
FC is open until 2am. Coliseum is extras free and closes at 10 or 11 now. I've heard they allow pseudo dances that aren't a normal (real, non extras) lap dance with tops on.