Comments by davephx

I recall that the songs run together more than at most other clubs. Maybe intentionally so it is harder to count songs accurately or easy to cheat if you are not precise and confirm each song with the dancer.

Wow the drawing of dancers are art cards is really creative and would be a great ice breaker with dancers. I admire your talent.

FrustratedInTheUS It's a long story, but maybe a decade or so ago, I had to go through interrogation by Canadian immigration at the Victoria, BC airport. At first, they had me confused with someone I assume had a similar name to do with Florida. I had never been to Florida except for Disney as a child. But they went through ALL my stuff. Since the court case was going on and I was monitoring, I had information but forgot which case it was. Either it was the founder of TER who hired a hit man to go after me and kill an escort. Fortunately, the hit man was undercover. I could hardly believe the call i got on a Sunday afternoon from the Phx major crimes and they met with me the next day. He fled to Iran but was lured back and arrested at the Mexican border convicted, and went to prison. Phx PD tried to get me to also get his escort rape victims to come forward with immunity to testify. I hosted the Phoenix Private Email List for years. I have the full story on my website Or it was the case of the guy that almost killed about 12 escorts - choking to the point of passing out. It's a long story, but I worked with Scottsdale PD, who took the risk very seriously, and I got escort victims to come forward, resulting in a 100-year sentence at trial. Also, I have the huge story on my site, and I had a local TV crew begging me for an interview, which was on local TV. The boyfriend of another station reporter visited the story room (whatever they call it), and they were concerned he would try and follow up for the competing station. I didn't want to be on TV but they interviewed with my face and voice altered. Even worse... they found links on my laptop to escort sites, which piqued their curiosity. I had to explain to the two officers that yes, I did outcalls in Victoria, which was perfectly legal, and all consenting adults. I told them where to look in the Canadian statues and the older guy went in back and I assume looked it up. The younger officer got very interested. "You actually talk to prostitutes on the Internet? What do you talk about?. I had the link to the huge merb (BC) and terb (Toronto board), and I bet that night he visited it, he seemed so interested. The older officer returned, and I was free to enter Canada. That is when I applied for Nexus and had the required interview, and never had a problem since. Other than during COVID-19, when my renewal was delayed about a year due to a lack of working staff at immigration. It's a long story, but that is why I got Nexus. It also includes Global Entry, which I used in Frankfurt, Germany, to avoid immigration lines

azdd - didn't mean to insult those breasts and I can carried away at times :) I did say in my view and .. and .. unlike many guys. I respect everyone's interests just I am turned off by large or enhanced. No insult intended !

Over the years, this has often been this old man's problem, although the last few times, there had been enough good interaction and VIPs between the boredom of waiting to be approached. Even with BigTim, we sometimes felt ignored. Or maybe some don't like us old guys, and I have no interest in stage dancing . Going to try again tonight since its been quite a few months. Maybe we have to be brave and approach a dancer that in eyeing the floor like in the back where I usually sit. It worked great once she was surprised but great time me approaching her. On the other hand, some dancers may prefer younger guys - I am 78, but seriously, that doesn't seem to be an issue at least with those who approach me both here and much more so when I go to Canada with their HUGE clubs and no legal issues. Sometimes, I am like a fly swatter, keeping the big-breasted ones away. Almost the opposite in Canada where they work the audience much more aggressively in my 20+ years of going to Toronto Clubs. But too cold up there now, until May when I return

Tipping is actually racist at least in the US starting with the black railroad porters that had to work for tips. In most of Asia, it is considered an insult; when I was in Germany, you just tipped up to the next Euro. I have been going to strip clubs for 20+ years in Canada (mainly Toronto), and maybe 40 years in the US, and I have never tipped a dancer, escort or massage gal) However, for lower-wage jobs that rely on tips, as much as I hate the silly tipping, I do tip the waitress at strip clubs, restaurants and Uber drivers, or you may get a bad customer rating.

You mentioned Estrella We go back to 2010! Some memories - long comment to go with good long review of yours! I didn't really like her dances but she was one of the most friendly so I usually got a dance from her. This was after earlier in long review of had a nice conversation with Jason, the nice manager, who sadly died a few years ago. I liked Estrella more before she had her breasts enlarged. . From 2010: Estrella Within a few minutes of entering, Estrella as she often does winds up beside me and starts up a discussion. She works often both day and night shift and have met her on I believe every visit since first coming here in April 2010. She could write a book on how to be a successful club dancer. To me she has one of the cutest friendly faces, wonderful friendly smile and eyes behind dark frame glasses with fairly long dark hair. I usually only do one dance but once in awhile 2. And as usual she later comes back to briefly sit on lap and hug and nicely ask if interested in another. But she is very polite and takes not more tonight very politely but is a good salesdancer working the floor and repeats to get the most dances but in a very polite nice way. She is ideal combination of friendly yet always trying to get dances, nicely approaches everyone working the audience. Oddly from my "after action" notes when I first met her she was less intimate (in the way I like) or responsive than many others but I was always attracted to her personality and body. Now she has become far more what I call intimacy responsive and great to interact with balancing her sensuality / sexuality and seeming to enjoy and interact in the way I most enjoy on the more caring touch way I like to ahh handle" ah. Dancers more than just impersonal body gyrations! I mention I had heard about the changes and wanted to check them out. She suggested I try the new VIP room, but I am too cheap and usually VIPs aren't that much different other than privacy from the public dance area. But as usual I agree to a dance and have great interaction. She especially wants me to come by on Halloween night to see her cute custom "but not too scary". Actually I just might.

I've been going here and to other clubs for 20+ years and never tipped any dancer at any club, and there are no problems. It's a silly, mostly American thing from the racism of the Pullman porters. In Asia, it's often an insult, and in much of Europe (at least in Germany), you round up to the nearest Ero in restaurants to avoid having small changes.

Lap Dance Cost: $20 as shown on the Front Page for the club. Has always been for many years. No tipping expected and I of course never tip except the Coke server.. like in drink not drugs :(

Actually Phoenix is basically a no touch city under the decade ago ordinance written by the Christian group "to protect neighborhoods and children." Lap dances not in laps but legs over the arms of chairs so no dirty body contact and technically a standing hug with both clothed would be illegal. I knew owners who were fined or had to close for the slightest contact with a TV report on undercover spending long nights in clubs looking for violations. The requirement for private dancers to be in the line of site with a manager, etc. Fortunantely not enforced now for many years. I testified against the ordinance in City Council hearings as well as making swing clubs illegal. At the final Counsel long session with lots of pros and cons, the new ordinances passed unanimously with an emergency provision to take effect immediately, bypassing the usual wait time when ordinances become effective. And a few years ago, I had prostitution stings at Hi-Liter. I think the later police chiefs, with the officer shortages, decided to focus more on the massage and escorting without a license stings (especially Scottsdale)

Gee, for $200, I can spend an hour with an attractive escort in a bed in Toronto or Montreal without legal issues. Of course, that doesn't include airfare, a nice hotel or either a rental car or Uber.

I am almost 78 and have been on a Keto/Atkins diet for about 30 years. I went from a size 46 waist to 36 (I am 6-1), and only diet I can enjoy, not feel hungry and maintain weight. I cheat a few times, and when I travel, I eat like a pig (instead of eating pork) but quickly lose the few pounds I gained. Great review! The Candy store is close to me in N Phx, but I haven't been there for many years, compared to Bourbon Street, Sugar, etc., which are much further away. I once had a long discussion with the owner, who sought me out related to the other club where a guy died. I had no interest when I visited in the past, but your review hinted at some better times. I am going to try and private message you.

The "color" was attractive. I didn't get the horse reference I assume cow related to breasts , not fat. However, while I have never done VIP, and it's been a long time, the songs are the same, I assume, in the VIP as on the floor, seat, or wall since it's just one DJ playing music. I always avoid tipping the door guy by walking fast to the men's room, but I hate it when they have an " attendant" to hand you a towel or something. I just ignore them.

I have wondered why so many Cubans in strip clubs when I don't seem to hear about them being so many in Phoenix. So, I did some research: In March 2023, several thousand Cubans fleeing political and economic turmoil arrived in the Phoenix area, which was the largest influx of Cubans to Arizona ever. Cuban immigrants in Phoenix may be eligible for assistance and services under the Arizona Refugee Resettlement Program. Cubans who enter the U.S. with humanitarian parole may be eligible to apply for a green card after living in the U.S. for one year and one day. After five years, they may be eligible to apply for citizenship. BTW we desperately need more skilled working immigrants (not strippers necessarily) - paying into social security, taxes etc and huge labor needs both farming, hotels, restaurants etc. It bothers me when they are called "illegals" since they ARE LEGAL under the 1980 Public Law 96-12 as part of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965. to create a permanent policy for admitting refugees to the United States. Most of them have court papers to appear for their claims but due to shortage of judges may be many years to get before a judge. But they are here legally just not "documented" other than as refugee seekers.

I have only been there once, many years ago, with the group of guys I often go with. We had an interesting time, with much attention at the table, but the pricing and vagueness were too complicated to deal with.

I hope the $1000 for the experience was for 4-5 hours! A beautiful escort in a bed would have cost less if it wasn't for a long time with the dancer.

Great review Heellover, I wish I had your memory for dancer names. It has also been a long time since I have visited.. I have all my reviews from about 2010 and don't see any of Le Girls. I recall it was very high priced for limited contact. They may not have had the nude side then. Recall big place and had floor dances as I recall on chairs way in back from stage. I like the digital roster - I wish every club at some listing as I can usually not understand the DJ when introduces dancers is too blaring for my old ears. The odd prices are a pain. I never carry any cash other than a seperate wallot for strip clubs with cash or organized by denominuations and track amounts on spreadsheet. If I got coins probably just give them to someone since never use. I love my regular think wallet without cash just ID info and a few credit cards. I even have a 3rd regular big wallet for Canadian cash for strip clubs and escorts.

Thanks for the review it's been a long time since been there. I wonder if the police station is still across the street. It was one of my favorite places and was friends of the owner porn star Stevi Secret and "Mother Hen" who mostly ran it with a guy since Stevi lived most of the time in Las Vegas. I liked their old layout with the circle of chairs around a big round stage. We had some Phoenix Private List meetings there off hours and I have a picture of her on my lap at the swing club that fought the Phoenix law all the way to the 9th Circuit but lost - Club Chameleon - it made all strip clubs in Phoenix illegal but was not enforced against the other smaller clubs .

You enjoyed 5 songs for $20 = $100 plus water -= but spent $300-$500?

It's a great, detailed blog, as usual. I wish I had your memory, and I would have to jot down the ones that will do $10 laps and peek at my "black book." I would love to see Raven again since, like you and BigTIm, I have known her for years. Bourbon Street has been my favorite for the last few years, and it has no VIP fees. The new coupons have no expire dates - as I had suggested to... forget his name, the nice owner originally from Duluth MN as I recall from long ago discussions. I was spoiled just coming back from the massive clubs in Mississauga (Toronto airport area). There were huge selections, no VIP fee ($20/dance), and full contact, but I never did extras that were available with no legal issues - nor with escorts, body rubs etc. I have reviews in the Toronto section; I see Bigtim found me there!

For comments asked on submission, as every review has had in the past No entry fee. My Diet Coke $8-10 with tip In the sky refers to the long stairs going upstairs to the VIP. $20 VIP dances as everywhere and for decades. I do not know if nude on stage since wasn't watching not my interest Yes got topless and nude in VIP but nude isn't my interest since don't do anything down there. I finished writing this almost 7 AM after returning from downtown dinner and a nice long evening with a couple. I was a bit tired and needed to get to bed!

oops, yes, thank you, 11:45 PM !

Thanks, I hope all is well. I look forward to meeting again or with the group at a club when you are back in Phoenix. Gee you found me in the Toronto section! Just did another review for another Toronto/Mississauga club. It's only $20, like Bourbon Street, but much more private and huge in comparison. Sugar as I am sure you have seen not like it used to be at least at night.

By the way if you want to read the Phoenix code see https://phoenix.municipal.codes/CC/6-15

Phoenix ordinance is far worse but hasn't been enforced for years. Christian group wrote it "to protect children and neighborhoods." Lap dances could not be in laps but had to have legs over the arms of chairs. Even a stand-up fully clothed by all hug technically was illegal since dirty body parts (including breasts, even if under clothing) were touched. I knew some club owners who were ticketed for the slightest infraction and had to either close for like 10 days or pay large fines. Local TV ran reports of undercovers spending long hours as customers looking for the slightest infraction, asking if this was a good use of police resources. I testified at city council hearings against the proposal as well as when making swing clubs illegal (I don't mean dancing). Both ordinances were passed as an emergency measure without the normal waiting period to be effective. I was on the legal committee for the big swing club Chameleon that appealed to the 9th Circuit but lost.