I have recently started visiting the clubs, probably only three or four so far, so I am curious whether other people have noticed this too.
During those visits, I have noticed a pattern. I have regularly seen Black dancers approach and spend time with Black customers, but very rarely seem to approach non Black customers, including me. In some cases, I have watched dancers walk past me without making eye contact and then immediately approach Black customers nearby.
So far, I have only been approached by one Black dancer. She was very attractive, but more importantly, she was probably one of the sweetest dancers I have met. We talked for a while, and I ended up getting a few dances from her, although I did not do VIP. That was a really good experience, but since then I have not been approached by another Black dancer.
I have been approached much more frequently by Latina and white dancers. There have also been a couple of Black dancers I was interested in, but they did not seem very interested in engaging with me or approaching me, even when I tried to get their attention. At the same time, I noticed them mostly interacting with Black customers, which is what made the difference stand out to me.
I am not trying to assume that race is definitely the reason. My experience is obviously limited, and it could be regular customers, spending habits, personal preference, who looks approachable, or something else entirely.
Has anyone else noticed a similar pattern where Black dancers mostly seem to approach Black customers?
Also, if a dancer does not initially approach you or show much interest, what is the best way to approach her without being annoying or getting quoted a much higher price? Do you introduce yourself and ask about a dance, tip her on stage first, ask the price upfront, or usually take the lack of attention as a sign to leave her alone?
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What is your ethnicity?
As a black man, I can tell you that stereotypes exists. Black women believe that it is black man who will service them because blacks are more attracted to the features of black dancers. Wider hips, bigger buts, how they dance, etc.
I have been to multiple clubs (non black) where black dancers were tipped, but not with the frequency of white dancers. Same goes for dances. It will not be every black dancer, but some are conditioned to stick with certain crowds.
Whites also need to be careful because if your an older gentleman, they may see you as a mark. Always be cautious and you are correct in that something these women just prefer a particular crowd.
Thanks, this is the kind of perspective I was looking for. I am Asian, so I was wondering if what I was seeing was just coincidence or if some dancers really do get used to working certain crowds.
What you said about stereotypes and knowing which guys are more likely to spend makes sense. I am still pretty new to clubs, so I was not sure if I was reading too much into it.
The point about being seen as a mark is useful too, especially with how much prices can vary. I am still curious though, if a dancer is not really giving you attention, do you usually just approach her anyway and see how it goes, or take it as a sign to move on?
One possibility is, she hopes this will happen. Although realistically it will be georgies not benjies. The more a dancer dislikes being touched by customers, the more likely she'll prefer a guy who does this.
@ilbbaicnl I do usually tip on stage if I am interested and trying to get her attention. I am definitely not at the Benjamins flying around level yet. Georgies are much more realistic.
I've never seen or heard of a stripper getting mad if you approach her. As long as you're polite, and don't do it when she's with a different customer.
If you see a dancer you like and want dances, and she doesn’t approach you, approach her. Say hi, and then “tell me about your dances”. You should be prepared to get dances. Tipping at the stage helps. While it may be racially motivated, to most people, including dancers, money spends the same, no matter who it comes from.
@Harderlap That helps. I think I was probably overthinking whether approaching her would be annoying if she had not approached me first. If she is free and I am actually interested in dances, I will just go say hi and ask about them.
An ex black dancer that I have known for years told me that some black dancers just do not know how to talk to white customers.
@shadowcat That is interesting. I had not really thought about it from that side. It could be more about comfort or not knowing how to start the conversation than actually not wanting the customer.
As an Asian man, you might be seen as something of an anomaly in a strip club. From a racial standpoint, I have no idea how that might play out.
Black dancers approach me all the time, and I am an older white man. I really don't know why that is, but I absolutely love it. I like women of every color, but black women are really my favorite.
Other TUSCLers have given you good advice about approaching the women you're interested in. An upside of that is if another dancer sees you talking to a dancer of the same race as her, she might be more likely to approach you as well.
It also helps to be seen by dancers of all races as someone who is getting dances (read: spending money).
@EastCoaster That same race point is interesting and I had not thought about that. I will definitely try approaching directly if I like someone, or at least try to get her attention like you mentioned. I will keep you guys updated on how it goes.
I don't know whether they do or not, but I've had enough awkward experiences with black dancers over the years that it seems reasonable some black dancers prefer black customers. That said, I've known a few who definitely prefer white customers, although I wonder how much of that is purely financial.
As a black man this is my experience from white strippers. If I go to a club with mostly white I will not get approached(especially in a non diverse city). Doesn't matter how good looking I am or dressed. I will only get approached by Latina and black women. I did ask about it and they said because most black customers are cheap and don't tip well. If I have to walk up to a dancer and grab them (any race) they are typically uninterested and performances are not worth it in my experiences. I think this is one reason why Latina women are taking over, they don't give damn and only see on color...green.
@PG22 I never patronized escorts, but when I was escort-curious, a disproportionate number of black women had "no AA," "no AA under 40," "I prefer white guys" or something equivalent. When I saw them discuss it on boards, they said young black men try to stiff them on payment or offer to be their pimp.
@PG22 You're not black. Stop it. You white dudes are weird, man. Creating fake accounts, masquerading as black men to talk shit about them. Envious cuck.
@ICan'tStopCheatin'OnMyGirl Uhhhh, what? Can't tell if this is sarcasm or if you got issues. By talking shit do you mean me saying what a stripper told me when I asked her a valid question I had? I like white girls but they don't like me lol. I made discussion post about visiting Tattletales which is predominately white because of comments I read on reddit. I been to ATL several times and I never went to TT as much as I want to, I stick to where I'm welcomed which is Vivide.
@PG22 Okay, whiteboy.
"Hey, I'm black and white girls aren't attracted to me! BBC is a myth and George Floyd was a criminal!"
You crackkkas are so see-through, man. Smh. Y'all do this shit all over social media.
Jealousy and envy.
@ICan'tStopCheatin'OnMyGirl Can't really be sure about anybody's race on the internet. But you're sure doing a better job of making black dudes look bad, by saying you're a black dude.
@ilbbaicnl K.
I tihnk it depends on the club. In a black club, they know you're there to see black dancers. In a mixed club, they're still a "niche," especially if they're more full-figured.
I'm white passing, mid-40s (although retired from strip clubbing), and I've always had a thing for black women and them for me that I can't explain. Now I'm married to one.
It depends on a number of things, most promently, the club culture. I'm a black man and have been to mixed clubs and approached by only non-black dancers. I've also been to mixed clubs and only been approached by black and Latina dancers. One dancer told me that many girls buy into the stereotype that some black men appear to be pimps. I laughed. I usually dress down but many girls think I'm some kind of academic or computer person. (I'm actually a writer in the tv and film business). Also, it's a generational thing sometimes. Older dancers seem more comfortable and confident talking to anyone. Some younger girls are not as confident and will seek guys morei n their age range.
@oscarlomax Where are you based? When I visited Atlanta, there were a number of black guys in clubs that I'm pretty sure were pimps. It seems that club culture there is closely tied to the rap scene, and the rap scene with trapping and pimping. Up here in New England, there are clubs with younger black guys but they just look and act like regular custies.
@ThePuddyTat What made you pretty sure they were pimps?
@ilbbaicnl The way they dressed, the way they acted, keeping a close eye on the girls but not buying dances. My friend who was with me suspected it too.
@ThePuddyTat Which clubs did you see this in?
@ilbbaicnl Platinum before it closed. It was obvious. I didn't notice at Vivide, maybe it was subtle.
@ThePuddyTat I am based in and around the Los Angeles area but I rarely go to clubs in LA proper. I club in the surrounding areas.
I don't notice any difference in the way I am treated by black dancers, compared to any others. Not sure why, but what is still making me laugh is that I have had a favorite dancer for almost a year and it wasn't until she said "never touch a black woman's hair without asking" last night that I even knew she was black. never dawned on me as I just see her as the hottest spinner I have ever met. So rare to see a flawless spinner body, but she is definitely bonsai stripper.
If you're ever near Eastern Metro Atlanta, try Strokers on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Since it's all black dancers, they'll know you like black women since you're there. Here's my review, but you should look at some more recent ones too: tuscl.net
I wouldn't wait around all day for dancers to approach you, approach them, see what's good. Take an active role in the strip club experience you want.
A lot of white dancers stick with white guys. A lot of black dancers stick with black guys. Cubans ask every single PL in the club 😂
Dancers notice who you tip and get lappers from. Tip black dancers and black dancers will come to you. Any club I frequent long enough the girls know I'm a pawg man.
@PAWG_Patrol While white strippers have their prejudices, they don't seem nearly as inclined as white people in general to stereotype black guys as predatory. I hear them complain a lot about Asian Indian guys, which may mean South Central Asians in general. And about Mexicans, which probably includes some Central Americans and other Latinos.
I wouldn't touch a black stripper. Gross
Pet peeve of sex workers of East Asian ancestry born in the US: white customers telling them how great their English is.
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