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2 weeks ago

No More Attractive Dancers

I don't get out much nowadays, so when I go to a club I would like to see beautiful women. TUSCL club reviews rate people, but that includes all staff. Also, I think that people scores now reflect more "extra" potential than good looks. When I used to go to clubs often, and I mean like 40 years ago, there were many clubs that you could depend on for beautiful young women to admire. Examples: Baby Dolls in Dallas, Lumberyard in Des Moines, Chorus Line in Davenport, Deja Vu in Minneapolis, and Bean Snappers near Appleton. In recent years, the only place that I have seen mostly attractive dancers is Silk in Madison. So my question is, are there still places that are dependable for beautiful 20 to 30-year-old fit entertainers? A sub-question might be, could we maybe start weighing looks more heavily into the people score in reviews?

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ClubFan81077
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The problem is those "rating" systems are so arbitrary that I kind of doubt that there could ever be an easy way to just look at a "score" and determine if you would truly be happy going to that club. On my typical club visit, I actually find it nearly impossible to figure out exactly what kind of rating I should give when it comes to "attractiveness"!

Look at it this way--If I went to a place that had nothing but the kind of super cute, petite, GND type dancers who I tend to like, that would be GREAT for me, but it would be shitty as hell for someone who likes something different than I do! So how should I rate a scenario like that one? Should it get a perfect score because everyone there is just my type, or should it get a lousy score for a lack of variety? If I don't mind tattoos, but someone else hates them, how do I factor that in?? If I like natural breasts of any size, but someone else likes them as large as possible--real or not--how do I factor that in?? I could go on here, but you get the idea... :)

Sometimes the best that we can do is just try to also be somewhat descriptive about what a club offers in terms of variety of dancers. A club that seems to offer something for just everyone's tastes is likely to get a good rating from me personally, but it's really helpful when a reviewer also just describes what they see in general. That way, we don't have to try to figure out someone else's rating system, because we can just read the descriptions of what might be available at that club! 😊

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Studme53
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Objectively, there’s not as many super hot dancers now as there were 20 or 30 years ago.

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ilbbaicnl
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And you feel robbed because...why? Do you think 10 women who look like Demi Moore or Kim Basinger are auditioning at your local club every week? And the club is telling them, nope, sorry we're looking for LIzzo look-a-likes?
Me personally, I prefer a purple-haired Gen-Z-er over a bimbo-froed Gen-X-er.

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mogul1985
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What is "hot" varies from PL to PL. Muffin Tops & and big butts are RIGHT OUT, as is excessive make-up, funky nails, silicon & Botox.

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docsavage
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Everyone does have their favorite type. At the same time, males are hardwired to seek out younger and healthier females because if they mate with them they are more likely to produce offspring. Most strip club customers certainly are not trying to have babies with strippers but are still attracted to those they could get pregnant. This is why strip clubs are not filled with strippers in their fifties and sixties.

There are fewer attractive girls in my local Indianapolis strip clubs now but that is because there are fewer big spending customers now. They would rather spend the evening with a good looking boyfriend if the strip club customers are not spending money.

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gSteph
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When I rate 'people' that's just the dancers. My club (daytime) has a (male) DJ/bouncer and a female bartender. Don't care about him and I just buy 1 water, make change, tip a buck

It is best when reviews decried dancers overall, then details on 'your type' that you got dances with.

My club is fairy 'dependable for beautiful 20 to 30-year-old fit entertainers', though that's usually 2-4 of the 7-10 there. Agree with your assessment, fewer babes than used to be.

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Rightfield
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My stomping ground has always been Minneapolis. Up until 10 years ago there were always a few dancers that rated 9 or better in anyone's book. I mean even if they weren't your "type", you could still admit they were beautiful.

That is no longer the case. Maybe it ended during the Covid years. A couple years ago I got dances from a dancer who was a solid 9, plus a good attitude. But that has become rare. Pre-Covid, there could be four girls in a club at the same time that were 9 or higher. For quite a few years, beautiful girls were not too proud to strip at the high end clubs. That has changed, and I don't know why.

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ilbbaicnl
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More women are willing to air dance, so air dance clubs reject more dancers. There use to be more air dance clubs.

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boomer79
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There are fewer attractive dancers but I can find what I like. Finding the right girl in an otherwise crappy club can make a great trio.

As to ratings I’ve never looked at them. I know what clubs in an area are generally speaking my type of club and then I’m interested in specific info not numbers.

I do definitely prefer young white spinners and I’ll always pick clubs who feature that. I also care about mileage and extras. Of course if I find the right girl and take her to VIP I couldn’t care less who else is working at a club.

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DandyDan
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Rating the dancers is often the hardest part of the club review to do. I have found a fair number attractive who I am fairly certain the average strip club customer would not. Often, it comes down not to whether they were universally attractive, but whether I enjoyed their company, because who wants to hang out with people they don't enjoy being around?

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sfrsox
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@Clubfan I don’t want GND dancers (that’s soft 6). I want knockouts (8+) I think OP agrees based on my reading of his post

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ilbbaicnl
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I don't pay much attention to the people score, unless it's below 5.
In reviews, I try to stick to dancer descriptions that are clearer. BBW, hourglass, round hips, bubble butt, spaceboobs (not possibly natural larrge, firm boobs), moonboobs (lage boobs that look like they are in 1/6 earth gravity rather than zero gravity spaceboobs), slim with subtle curves, skinny. Race, since that matters to many. Magazine pretty, which concretely and cringly means "pre-adult" characteristics, large eyes, small nose/mouth, long legs relative to torso length. Scamminess. Description of the dancers should be broken out into its own paragraph, that's easy to skip to.

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rickthehick
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@docsavage most strippers arent hanging out with good looking boyfriends. The average American is pretty fat and ugly, and those average guys are dating and marrying.

Even starting from highschool, girls are pretty much wired to go for high status guys, not the best looking or most muscular or even most athletic guys. Any football, baseball or basketball player no matter how fat or ugly, got pretty much all the girls they wanted. Once you get to college that expands even further, and then just being in a fraternity or just having rich parents is enough to get the hottest girls on campus.

Guys are always on the lookout for the hottest prettiest girls but that doesnt mean girls are on the lookout for the hottest guys. Just because males are wired that way doesnt mean females are. Which is why the majority of guys arent even good looking or tall or ripped or etc.

Even the height aspect isnt about physical stats its the status symbol and the fact it essentially equates to money and status via nba and other sports that value that height.

You can see the same scenario play out in pretty much every highschool and college campus across the country

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ClubFan81077
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"I don’t want GND dancers (that’s soft 6). I want knockouts (8+) I think OP agrees based on my reading of his post"

@sfrsox You get to decide who is and isn't attractive to you! And if you really want to spend time on it, you're welcome to have any opinions you'd like on my tastes in...well, anything at all!

All I know is that whenever I'm OTC with a dancer I like in public, such as having dinner with her, I can catch guy after guy after guy checking her out. Having said that, I don't need validation from any of them about my choice in a companion...I just find it pretty damn comical. 😂

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Ilovehotwhitestrippers
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I’m in Dallas, so I have no issue with a lack of attractive women! My issue is which one am I going to go see? Can’t see em all!

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ClubFan81077
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"Can’t see em all!"

@Ilovehotwhitestrippers Not with an attitude like that! 😉

Hahaha

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nicespice
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I wasn’t around 40 years ago. But here’s some photos from about 40 years ago from some club in LA. If that’s any representative, it seems like club aesthetic standards ebb and flow? flashbak.com

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nicespice
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(Not to say that the women in the link I posted are bad looking—just that they don’t look like the glossy polished up women some club want)

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shadowcat
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Those were the days. No tattoos or piercings.

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Trenchcoat
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So far, nobody has recommended a specific club for 8+ quality entertainers. Well, except Ilovehotwhitestrippers who assured us that it is the norm in Texas. So, can anyone name some specific clubs? Imagine a situation where you just want to view hot women, and are not seeking conversation or even full contact lap dances. Sure, you could see that at some beaches, but at a beach it is creepy to stare. At a stripclub, ogling is expected.

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mogul1985
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@nicespice Interesting flash back to the '80s. Thanks for posting, a few were attractive and most were not to my liking at all. I did an occasional SC back then. I do like seeing what things looked like decades ago as an historical reminder.

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ilbbaicnl
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@nicespice it's hopefully illegal and definitely fucked up that those pictures are on the internet. Nobody in the 1980s had reason to worry their (hard-copy) picture would end up having world-wide availability.
When I compare the "dragon ladies" to ranker.com , I don't see the big difference. Except that you're not seeing anyone's right-before-rehab picture in the second list.

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nicespice
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@Trenchcoat

This isn’t a complete list. Some of these clubs I’ve been to. Some of these clubs, I’ve seen pictures of or met dancers who work/have worked there. This is just a general list of pickier clubs.

Bourbon Street Phoenix AZ Le Girls Phoenix AZ 4Play Los Angeles CA The Library Anaheim CA Plan B Los Angeles CA Gold Club San Francisco CA Shotgun Willies Denver CO Diamond Cabaret Denver CO La Boheme Denver CO Mynx Hartford Connecticut Scarlett’s Miami Fl E11even Miami Fl Cheetah Atlanta GA Pink Pony Atlanta GA Gold Room Chicago IL Admiral Chicago IL Dancers Indianapolis IN Flight Club Inkster MI Legends Detroit MI Spearmint Rhino Las Vegas NV Sapphire Las Vegas NV Rick’s NYC Sapphire NYC Flashdancer NYC Men’s Club Charlottsville NC Cheerleader Philadelphia PA Thee Dollhouse Myrtle Beach SC Palazio Austin Tx Yellow Rose Austin TX The Lodge Dallas TX Baby Dolls Dallas TX (though I think there are some dancers they just don’t kick out when they age) St James Houston TX Great Alaskan Bush Salt Lake City Utah

@mogul1985 and @ilbbaicnl Yeah, those pictures have circulated around the internet for years. It pops up on social media every once in a while. There was probably no consent, but hopefully enough years have passed that each person who worked there have plausible deniability.

Here’s also some photos from some NYC club in the 90s that circulate once in a while. huffpost.com

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ilbbaicnl
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I thought Admiral Chicago had male dancers.
The dancers who are 2nd and 3rd for number of years I saw them OTC have danced at clubs on nicespice's list. But I met both of them when they were dancing at much less self-aggrandizing clubs. One has a figure like Riley Reid (but her nose/lips are larger). The other has a figure like Bridgette B. But I "rate" all my favs as second to none for appearance. So, obviously, I don't have a narrow "type" like many do. I've never understood being so convinced you can rate women 1 - 10 in a way that most would roughly agree on.
@nicespice it seems like those strippers were right that their trusted regular would use the pics for his personally monkey-spanking only. They just didn't anticipate the post-death disposition of the photos. Or the www.

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docsavage
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Good looking strippers in strip clubs are that way because their mother and grandmothers picked out good looking guys to mate with. They are likely to follow the same pattern. So if they are not at work they may be off somewhere having sex with a good looking guy. If customers want them there at the strip club, they need to be spending money.

Some good looking girls do go for the ugly rich guy and have more average looking offspring. The large number of good looking women walking around, though, indicates their female ancestors did not do that.

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rickthehick
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@docsavage not true at all. That is a fundamentally flawed idea of how looks come into development. Females or even males could be attractive just because one of their parents was attractive. Theres no requirement that being attractive automatically means the father was attractive or that both parents were attractive.

And there certainly isnt any pattern of good looking dancers having attractive fathers. Again if you just delved into this even a little bit you would see how easy it is to debunk. Ive met and seen pretty sex workers and non sex workers who had completely hideous dads or in some cases both parents were ugly. So what happened then? One of their parents cheated? Or they secretly adopted their daughter?

Besides all that, your looks arent a sole function of what your parents were like. Diet, nutrition, all play a role, including the moms diet while she was pregnant, and the dads diet while he impregnated the mom. Theres likely numerous examples of attractive parents having ugly offspring and vice versa. I urge you to look into the guys some of these ladies are dating and their parents. The last sentence of your post is so easy to debunk because you made this completely false idea…

Why are there so many ugly guys and girls? Apparently people can only be attractive if their dads were attractive? Lol.

Also, no, just no. Some good looking girls dont just go for ugly rich guys- they even go for ugly poor guys. You simply havent been observing life enough. Even going back to highschool, theres plenty of ugly and poor guys who get good looking girls.

You obviously pick out strippers based on their physical appearance but that doesn’t mean thats what women do- they arent you and they arent men.

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docsavage
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@rickthehick it may have been your observation that hot chicks show a lot of interest in ugly guys with no money but that has not been my observation. I am seventy years old and have two college degrees. In addition to that, I have been in strip clubs several hundred times. The good looking strippers there generally ignore ugly customers unless those customers spend money on them.

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mogul1985
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@nicespice the grittiness of the B&W were really great! If Georges Seurat did photography it would have been like his pointillism Impressionist Art.

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skibum609
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The pics Nice Spice posted were amazing in that none of the dancers were fat. N0 idea wtf happened to society.

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rickthehick
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@docsavage so the good looking strippers in the clubs will go after the good looking guys even if they dont spend money on them? Lol.

In college you should have noted the massive number of athletes and fraternity guys who were dating or hooking up with hot chicks. Some of the athletes would have been in good shape, yet many werent.

You can also just ask all the dancers to show you their current boyfriends and guys theyve dated.

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rickthehick
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@docsavage the girls in strip clubs also ignore good looking customers that dont spend money on them so thats also an easy debunk.

The biggest factor in what sex workers look for in a boyfriend is a guy who will tolerate and support their line of work and also be loyal to them even while they are lapdancing or even having sex with other guys.

For most of human history, and even now, most guys wouldnt be open to dating sex workers. That severely shrinks the pool of guys. More often than not the guys they date arent good looking or even in shape. Theyre guys desperate enough to commit to the sex worker. If they could just sleep with good looking women for free, they wouldnt need to commit to being monogamous with a single good looking lady

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docsavage
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@rickthehick the good looking strippers generally ignore the good looking customers who do not spend money because they can see good looking guys outside the strip club. It is not universally true, though, they ignore good looking guys. I have often seen strippers just hanging out with young guys their own age. If you see one spending a lot of time with an old ugly guy, chances are he is spending money on her.

There may be the rare girl who likes old men but I am not going to spend time trying to find her. If you are just ordinary looking, attractive strippers and women in general will try to fool you that you might have a chance with them if you just spend enough money on them. All my girlfriends almost immediately started having sex with me. The girls I spent months trying to win over with presents or expensive restaurant dinners generally were the ones I failed with. I have had women interested in me for my money but the age gap was only a decade. To get one much younger, you need to be rich or a celebrity.

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Reachme
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Had anyone considered what there are less hot ladies out there to begin with? Was just in Florida, Disney parks and cruise. Scary part is that almost 80-90% of young people I ran into (under 30 yo) are out of shape somewhat, or just plain fat.

Explains a few things imho.

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