My understanding is that Iryna's senseless murder is a direct result of the failed leniency in the Charlotte area justice system.
However, the sheer volume and scale of crime in Charlotte is orders of magnitude less than what Chicago has consistently suffered for years of failed democrat party leadership. Chicago suffers from a unique combination of failed democrat social policy, socialist voters, and the woke mind virus. Federal intervention is needed more in Chicago, but will last no longer than it takes the taillights to fade from view when they leave.
In North Carolina, magistrates not only don't need to be judges, but they also don't even need to be lawyers. This violent felon was released by one of these nitwits, who is a political lefty who would let drug addicts kill everyone on earth before she's even begun to suspect that they are the problem and not the rest of us. He should be burned alive on television.
Chicago has a rock-solid, bedrock-deep foundation in violent crime going back to Al Capone and Gangsterism. At some point the NatGuard will be out of Chicago, as @Gammanu95 said, and voters will continue to vote for Ds, and we'll get "Lather, Rinse, Repeat." Fundamental changes need to happen with the corrupt Chicago gov't at the level of a MAGA/Trump-type political revolution being elected with all new Aldermen. As Chicago Mayor Richard Dailey was rumored to have said, "Vote Early, Vote Often". Chicago has a very deep political history of corruption under "Democratic Machine." Did he say it? Who cares, it's an accurate depiction of the DNC, especially in Chicago.
What happened to this girl was horrific from a monster that had no business EVER walking the streets. This is just one more example, as skibum609 detailed, of a huge failure in our justice system and activist magistrates/judges.
I'm still surprised to this day that NYC Judges Engoron & Merchan haven't been removed from the Bench or at least reviewed. This system is glacial in its actions when it wants to be.
She was an illegal Ukrainian. Decarlos Brown is a mentally ill homeless person. Charlotte has created a revolving door jail system for the homeless rather than investing in mental health and social services. Red state activities
Admittedly it hits differently when the victim is a young beautiful white woman (regardless of immigration status), but the fact that a violent, mentally ill person with 14 prior arrests is allowed to be out freely in society is unconscionable.
To further Skibum’s point, in NC magistrates have traditionally been a pay off for the productive grass roots campaign workers. Only qualification was you turned out the vote in your ward.
Decarlos Brown has schizophrenia. He never received treatment or any social services. Instead just had a series of arrests. The question isnt why he wasnt locked up. Its why isnt there a health infrastructure to help people like him.
The killing of the woman is unfortunate. But sensationalizing this as a black man killing a white woman just shows how racist society is.
Mentally ill untreared homeless man kills illegal alien... That headline would make people think something else
She was actually a refugee so here legally. And I thought illegal alien was an offensive term. Funny how citizenship status is never mentioned by the left when that tag applies to the assailant
^The Governor defended him to the max, suggesting we should feel sorry for him. Blamed society and never mentioned the victim, so I disagree, as she is an elected democrat.
Skibum beat me to the punch, and he's right. Although I think it was the mayor who said we should feel sorry for the repeat felon who viciously and completely without cause repeatedly stabbed a beautiful, innocent young refugee who was only trying to get home after work.
Assailant’s history goes back 15 years and he served 5 years for armed robbery. Not sure how long a sentence should have been or whether it would have prevented this.
Earlier this year he called the cops to report there was a man made substance inside of him controlling when he ate, walked and talked. The police told him it was a personal issue and brushed him off so he called 911 and was charged with misuse of 911, a misdemeanor, and released. Should he have been jailed? I don’t know. Should he have been hospitalized? Probably and at least should’ve been assessed by mental health professionals.
Blame the justice system and blame the healthcare system.
He might be sick, but he also shouldn’t be on the streets. Sucks that this girl could survive war and then die on a light rail commuter train.
Not sure what “sending troops” would do. Does everybody get their own personal soldier to walk them around?
NC is about the purplest states we have. Gov Josh Stein is a governor as was Roy Cooper. Republican legislatures have gerrymandered the districts and tried to weaken governor’s powers when a dem is in office but courts have mostly stopped them. Statewide elections will always be close. Cooper most likely wins the US Senate seat in NC that is up in 2026.
icee/dougie,
how fitting calling for letting mentally unstable folks to run wild in the streets,
if he hadn't been running free this wouldn't have happened
There's going to be a point where the criminal justice system becomes irrelevant (in some cities, it already is) and law abiding, tax paying folks are going to take the law in their own hands if they aren't getting justice. Paul Kersey style. Who could blame them?
Reversed? People arent things and races aren't opposites.
This thread just exposes sick racism.
Criminalizing mental illness and abject poverty is the problem. Access to housing and mental health would have prevented this. The illegal not being here would have prevented it.
But youre too mentally stunted to see beyond your racist delusions
^^At least Icey admits being an ignorant racist. So pathetic, but some communities feel a need to fail and blame everyone but themselves. The moral of the story is always sit with your back to wall.
gostopper007 speaks the truth, NC is purple and we do usually vote red for feds and blue for state and Charlotte is blue and has been for years. I have lived there for all my life.
@icey he doesnt have schizophrenia thats absolute nonsense, what proof do you have that he has any sort of mental condition and isnt just evil?
Heres the thing, though, even if he does have a mental condition, it doesnt change what he did, doesnt change the fact he was responsible for it, and should still be punished all the same whether he had a mental condition or not
How much time and/or money have you ever donated to helping someone homeless or disabled? Its not societys responsibility to do anything about people like him, but if you care so much you should donate what you can
Icey has no clue what he is talking about. NC is currently 32% dem, 30% rep and 38% unaffiliated. And the few blue enclaves are the most populous cities in the state. Last 12 elections we have voted for dem president 5 times and dem governor 9 times.
If the races were reversed, if a white man had viciously, remorselessly, and unprovoked slaughtered a black girl - say a refugee from Somalia- and muttered "I got that black bitch" repeatedly while exiting, while white passengers all around did nothing but walk away or watch the girl die, the nation would be on fire. The man would be charged with federal hate crimes and terror charges, the press would be screaming white supremacy amd how whiteness and white males are the most dangerous things in America, Charlotte would have burned to ashes overnight, and the press would be running nonstop, 24-7, breaking news and full front page stories about the girl murdered by another crazy white devil.
Wokeness, progressive policies, cashless bail, restorative justice, equity in law enforcement, and divisive racial politics are the most dangerous and destructive forces in America. These are all the democrat party's and democratic socialists' stock and trade. This is what is destroying our nation. Combined with the lies of a criminally complicit mainstream media, it is an existential threat to the last democratic republic on Earth. America is weaker today, because of these policies, than it was when Reagan first warned us that Americans seeking freedom had no place to escape to. The United States is the last haven on Earth. That's our choice, and every vote for a woke, progressive, or democrat candidate is a choice against America and freedom.
The scenario Gam describes in the first paragraph above is accurate. The dems and their MSM supporters would have a field day with it if a white guy did that. Anyone that denies or doesn't see that is delusional or stupid!
If the homeless schizophrenic had been able to receive medical care this wouldnt have happened. If the Ukrainian illegal was arrested this would not have happened.
Youre all basically making this about brace and want a lynching.
This entire thread is stupid as shit. Crime is higher in red states overall. It just is. Crime is higher in cities which are mostly blue. It just is. It's that way because dems like to gain points playing humanitarian at the cost of actual rehabilitation, and republicans like to cut rehab funding and support for the areas the crime comes out of.
Y'all are fighting over which of your greedy, piece of shit elected officials is the better greedy, piece of shit elected official. None of them give a shit about you and you are just fuel for their money machine. They only disagree on which way to feed you to the machine.
A fucking retard like you has one go to claim: Racism. I reject the claim, don't give a fuck what a suicidal, impotent, racist such as yourself says and to put it plainly: the people you support are scumbags. Drug addicts re always called mentally ill. He was fucking racist garbage and should be burned alive on television. By the way she wasn't illegal, you probably are though. Buh bye loser, have at that gubmint cheeze.
Republicans have always supported strong LE presence in high crime areas. Dems call that racism and profiling.
democrat party politicians and their stooges are obsessed with virtue signaling, and spouting acceptable partisan rhetoric. Examples:
"Hurt people hurt people*. Not "mental illness is not justification for allowing a 14-time felon to run free and endanger innocent citizens." The system failed [whatever the fuck his name was]" not "The system failed Iryna Zarutska." "We cannot villainize the mentally ill" which is true but not equal to "We cannot have the mentally ill victimizing defenseless women."
There is a right and a wrong side in this debate. One is rooted in facts and common sense, the other is rooted in optics and DEI.
Sorry, but ignoring the fact blue areas no longer arrest people for crimes their statistics are just unadulterated garbage, the idiots who vote for them need to hear.
I said I wanted him burned alive. It's a race killing and BLM actually posted a video on their site saying such acts were a "right" to be acted upon at any time. Seems like a declaration of war.
According to this site, there is high crime in central cities and many rural areas. Big surprise, seems to correlate with poverty.
Most violent crimes are not committed by psychotic people, as seems to be the case here. You would think, when someone convicted of a violent crime finishes their sentence, they'd be evaluated to determine if they should be committed involuntarily on grounds of mental illness. Not anything soldiers or guard members could help with. Instead of spending money effectively against violent crime, we're spending it to arrest and deport decent people who contribute to the economy (and thus tax revenue).
@icey you also failed to condemn rampage jacksons son attacking a white guy almost killing him just because he felt “disrespected “ the white wrestler earlier hit him with a prop piece fake metal can!
This case is one of the rare instances where a mental health defense can work. He thought she was reading his thoughts and making the voices take over his body. Hes an untreated schizophrenic. He tried getting help but was denied. There arent adequate services for the indigent.
Too bad your state doesn't have that same tradition iceydougie. It would be the opposite of a tragedy if we never had to deal with your dozen alias accounts ese, lulz
@icey the fact he commented “got that white girl” shows he wasnt mentally insane. Just hateful
I dont get why you would be cheering and hoping for a mental defense though? Even if he is verified to be mentally insane he should still get the same punishment and treatment as someone who isnt mentally sane. If it was a different crime like stealing you could then say okay dont punish him just have him return what he stole.
He needs to get a proper stretching in prison, and i hope thats what he gets.
@klause maybe, but its debatable. In many of these inter racial crime incidents there arent clear indicators that the attack was carried out for racial reasons. Yet people generally assume that because there were two different races involved, that it was due to race. If were assuming it with white on black crime we need to assume the same with black on white crime.
And it shouldn’t actually matter. To me, it doesnt really matter if someone killed someone because they were bored, or because they disliked their race or gender or religion or politics. Its still murder, you can’t really say its more evil if a murderer killed for pure joy or boredom vs hatred of a race or gender or religion.
But thats not how society is operating right now; for a lot of people, a racially motivated killing is, for some reason a much bigger issue than a killing done for other reasons. And the general logic is if theres an incident between people of different races, the incident occurred because of the racial differences. I know some people may want to pick and choose when that logic is applied and when it isnt but you cant do it that way it would be inconsistent. Cherrypicking essentially
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My understanding is that Iryna's senseless murder is a direct result of the failed leniency in the Charlotte area justice system.
However, the sheer volume and scale of crime in Charlotte is orders of magnitude less than what Chicago has consistently suffered for years of failed democrat party leadership. Chicago suffers from a unique combination of failed democrat social policy, socialist voters, and the woke mind virus. Federal intervention is needed more in Chicago, but will last no longer than it takes the taillights to fade from view when they leave.
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In North Carolina, magistrates not only don't need to be judges, but they also don't even need to be lawyers. This violent felon was released by one of these nitwits, who is a political lefty who would let drug addicts kill everyone on earth before she's even begun to suspect that they are the problem and not the rest of us. He should be burned alive on television.
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Chicago has a rock-solid, bedrock-deep foundation in violent crime going back to Al Capone and Gangsterism. At some point the NatGuard will be out of Chicago, as @Gammanu95 said, and voters will continue to vote for Ds, and we'll get "Lather, Rinse, Repeat." Fundamental changes need to happen with the corrupt Chicago gov't at the level of a MAGA/Trump-type political revolution being elected with all new Aldermen. As Chicago Mayor Richard Dailey was rumored to have said, "Vote Early, Vote Often". Chicago has a very deep political history of corruption under "Democratic Machine." Did he say it? Who cares, it's an accurate depiction of the DNC, especially in Chicago.
What happened to this girl was horrific from a monster that had no business EVER walking the streets. This is just one more example, as skibum609 detailed, of a huge failure in our justice system and activist magistrates/judges.
I'm still surprised to this day that NYC Judges Engoron & Merchan haven't been removed from the Bench or at least reviewed. This system is glacial in its actions when it wants to be.
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She was an illegal Ukrainian. Decarlos Brown is a mentally ill homeless person. Charlotte has created a revolving door jail system for the homeless rather than investing in mental health and social services. Red state activities
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@icey lol so you can attack illegals if its black on white, but if its white on black you cant?
Mentioning her being illegal just isnt a valid response to anything. Brownie isnt mentally ill hes subhuman, ghetto, evil and slaveworthy
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Engoron, Merchan, Boasberg - swamp creatures being protected by the swamp. This is elitists looking out for each other.
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Admittedly it hits differently when the victim is a young beautiful white woman (regardless of immigration status), but the fact that a violent, mentally ill person with 14 prior arrests is allowed to be out freely in society is unconscionable.
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^Taking public transportation anywhere is a no go. This asshole was out on cashless bail.
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To further Skibum’s point, in NC magistrates have traditionally been a pay off for the productive grass roots campaign workers. Only qualification was you turned out the vote in your ward.
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Decarlos Brown has schizophrenia. He never received treatment or any social services. Instead just had a series of arrests. The question isnt why he wasnt locked up. Its why isnt there a health infrastructure to help people like him.
The killing of the woman is unfortunate. But sensationalizing this as a black man killing a white woman just shows how racist society is.
Mentally ill untreared homeless man kills illegal alien... That headline would make people think something else
#redstateactivities
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She was actually a refugee so here legally. And I thought illegal alien was an offensive term. Funny how citizenship status is never mentioned by the left when that tag applies to the assailant
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Hang the motherfucker, who gives a fuck, I don't hear any sane folk going out on a limb to defend this murderer.
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^The Governor defended him to the max, suggesting we should feel sorry for him. Blamed society and never mentioned the victim, so I disagree, as she is an elected democrat.
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Skibum beat me to the punch, and he's right. Although I think it was the mayor who said we should feel sorry for the repeat felon who viciously and completely without cause repeatedly stabbed a beautiful, innocent young refugee who was only trying to get home after work.
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NC is considered a purple swing state (typically vote R for federal offices and D for state) but Charlotte is solid blue.
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Skibum you say illegals have no rights here. Even oppose immigrants. Call them criminals.
I guess its different when theyre white
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NC is a red state. Only Democrat who win it since the 1980s is Obama.
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25 how fitting of you calling for the hanging/lynching of a mentally disabled black man.
If he had help for his schizophrenia tjis wouldn't have happened
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Assailant’s history goes back 15 years and he served 5 years for armed robbery. Not sure how long a sentence should have been or whether it would have prevented this.
Earlier this year he called the cops to report there was a man made substance inside of him controlling when he ate, walked and talked. The police told him it was a personal issue and brushed him off so he called 911 and was charged with misuse of 911, a misdemeanor, and released. Should he have been jailed? I don’t know. Should he have been hospitalized? Probably and at least should’ve been assessed by mental health professionals.
Blame the justice system and blame the healthcare system.
He might be sick, but he also shouldn’t be on the streets. Sucks that this girl could survive war and then die on a light rail commuter train.
Not sure what “sending troops” would do. Does everybody get their own personal soldier to walk them around?
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NC is about the purplest states we have. Gov Josh Stein is a governor as was Roy Cooper. Republican legislatures have gerrymandered the districts and tried to weaken governor’s powers when a dem is in office but courts have mostly stopped them. Statewide elections will always be close. Cooper most likely wins the US Senate seat in NC that is up in 2026.
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Edit Stein and Cooper are democrats. Left that word out.
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icee/dougie,
how fitting calling for letting mentally unstable folks to run wild in the streets,
if he hadn't been running free this wouldn't have happened
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There's going to be a point where the criminal justice system becomes irrelevant (in some cities, it already is) and law abiding, tax paying folks are going to take the law in their own hands if they aren't getting justice. Paul Kersey style. Who could blame them?
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If the races were reversed Icey/Dougie would be wetting herself.
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Reversed? People arent things and races aren't opposites.
This thread just exposes sick racism.
Criminalizing mental illness and abject poverty is the problem. Access to housing and mental health would have prevented this. The illegal not being here would have prevented it.
But youre too mentally stunted to see beyond your racist delusions
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And when there's a war, we should send cops, not soldiers. And, don't eat Cheetos, rub them all over yourself. youtube.com
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^^At least Icey admits being an ignorant racist. So pathetic, but some communities feel a need to fail and blame everyone but themselves. The moral of the story is always sit with your back to wall.
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Skibum the failure in this case is that of American society
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gostopper007 speaks the truth, NC is purple and we do usually vote red for feds and blue for state and Charlotte is blue and has been for years. I have lived there for all my life.
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Election records state otherwise. Its a red state with a few blue enclaves
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@icey he doesnt have schizophrenia thats absolute nonsense, what proof do you have that he has any sort of mental condition and isnt just evil?
Heres the thing, though, even if he does have a mental condition, it doesnt change what he did, doesnt change the fact he was responsible for it, and should still be punished all the same whether he had a mental condition or not
How much time and/or money have you ever donated to helping someone homeless or disabled? Its not societys responsibility to do anything about people like him, but if you care so much you should donate what you can
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The failure Icey is a community that believes it's ok to commit crimes, because the ass hats called democrats said so.
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Icey has no clue what he is talking about. NC is currently 32% dem, 30% rep and 38% unaffiliated. And the few blue enclaves are the most populous cities in the state. Last 12 elections we have voted for dem president 5 times and dem governor 9 times.
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Quote from the scumbag killer after murdering the woman: "I got that white girl". The second amendment exists because of "people" like him.
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Gobstopper,
Since 1964 the only times a Democratic president has won North Carolina were Carter in 1976 and Obama in 2008
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If the races were reversed, if a white man had viciously, remorselessly, and unprovoked slaughtered a black girl - say a refugee from Somalia- and muttered "I got that black bitch" repeatedly while exiting, while white passengers all around did nothing but walk away or watch the girl die, the nation would be on fire. The man would be charged with federal hate crimes and terror charges, the press would be screaming white supremacy amd how whiteness and white males are the most dangerous things in America, Charlotte would have burned to ashes overnight, and the press would be running nonstop, 24-7, breaking news and full front page stories about the girl murdered by another crazy white devil.
Wokeness, progressive policies, cashless bail, restorative justice, equity in law enforcement, and divisive racial politics are the most dangerous and destructive forces in America. These are all the democrat party's and democratic socialists' stock and trade. This is what is destroying our nation. Combined with the lies of a criminally complicit mainstream media, it is an existential threat to the last democratic republic on Earth. America is weaker today, because of these policies, than it was when Reagan first warned us that Americans seeking freedom had no place to escape to. The United States is the last haven on Earth. That's our choice, and every vote for a woke, progressive, or democrat candidate is a choice against America and freedom.
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The scenario Gam describes in the first paragraph above is accurate. The dems and their MSM supporters would have a field day with it if a white guy did that. Anyone that denies or doesn't see that is delusional or stupid!
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BTW, His second paragraph is also correct.
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If the homeless schizophrenic had been able to receive medical care this wouldnt have happened. If the Ukrainian illegal was arrested this would not have happened.
Youre all basically making this about brace and want a lynching.
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This entire thread is stupid as shit. Crime is higher in red states overall. It just is. Crime is higher in cities which are mostly blue. It just is. It's that way because dems like to gain points playing humanitarian at the cost of actual rehabilitation, and republicans like to cut rehab funding and support for the areas the crime comes out of.
Y'all are fighting over which of your greedy, piece of shit elected officials is the better greedy, piece of shit elected official. None of them give a shit about you and you are just fuel for their money machine. They only disagree on which way to feed you to the machine.
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Youre trying to legitimate your racism with inane what if scenarios.
You shower no outrage when an American jew killed israelis thinking they were Arabs. No outrage at Joseph Czuba murdering a 6 year old Muslim child.
A homeless man acting out on schizophrenic delusions kills an illegal ukrainian you want to fuck and you show outrage
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You don't show outrage you feign it because you think its a safe way to show your racism
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A fucking retard like you has one go to claim: Racism. I reject the claim, don't give a fuck what a suicidal, impotent, racist such as yourself says and to put it plainly: the people you support are scumbags. Drug addicts re always called mentally ill. He was fucking racist garbage and should be burned alive on television. By the way she wasn't illegal, you probably are though. Buh bye loser, have at that gubmint cheeze.
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Finally some level headed commentary @Klause.
Also, keep bullshit like this in Political Discourse.
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Clause and PAWG patrol are 100% WRONG.
Crime is lower in red states.
Republicans have always supported strong LE presence in high crime areas. Dems call that racism and profiling.
democrat party politicians and their stooges are obsessed with virtue signaling, and spouting acceptable partisan rhetoric. Examples:
"Hurt people hurt people*. Not "mental illness is not justification for allowing a 14-time felon to run free and endanger innocent citizens." The system failed [whatever the fuck his name was]" not "The system failed Iryna Zarutska." "We cannot villainize the mentally ill" which is true but not equal to "We cannot have the mentally ill victimizing defenseless women."
There is a right and a wrong side in this debate. One is rooted in facts and common sense, the other is rooted in optics and DEI.
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Sure Jan.
Every data set from every source says otherwise, but sure. If it makes you happy and being right will shut you up. Sure.
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Sorry, but ignoring the fact blue areas no longer arrest people for crimes their statistics are just unadulterated garbage, the idiots who vote for them need to hear.
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Red states have higher crime rates. thirdway.org
Skibum calling for a public lynching. Your hood is showing .
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I said I wanted him burned alive. It's a race killing and BLM actually posted a video on their site saying such acts were a "right" to be acted upon at any time. Seems like a declaration of war.
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crimegrade.org
According to this site, there is high crime in central cities and many rural areas. Big surprise, seems to correlate with poverty.
Most violent crimes are not committed by psychotic people, as seems to be the case here. You would think, when someone convicted of a violent crime finishes their sentence, they'd be evaluated to determine if they should be committed involuntarily on grounds of mental illness. Not anything soldiers or guard members could help with. Instead of spending money effectively against violent crime, we're spending it to arrest and deport decent people who contribute to the economy (and thus tax revenue).
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@icey you also failed to condemn rampage jacksons son attacking a white guy almost killing him just because he felt “disrespected “ the white wrestler earlier hit him with a prop piece fake metal can!
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@chunkychicano Jackson didn't do that because of his race. He did that because he was a spoiled rich asshole raised by a fucking psychopath.
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This case is one of the rare instances where a mental health defense can work. He thought she was reading his thoughts and making the voices take over his body. Hes an untreated schizophrenic. He tried getting help but was denied. There arent adequate services for the indigent.
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The south has a tradition of executing the mentally ill though.
This is a case of overall tragedy and an inept system
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Too bad your state doesn't have that same tradition iceydougie. It would be the opposite of a tragedy if we never had to deal with your dozen alias accounts ese, lulz
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@icey the fact he commented “got that white girl” shows he wasnt mentally insane. Just hateful
I dont get why you would be cheering and hoping for a mental defense though? Even if he is verified to be mentally insane he should still get the same punishment and treatment as someone who isnt mentally sane. If it was a different crime like stealing you could then say okay dont punish him just have him return what he stole.
He needs to get a proper stretching in prison, and i hope thats what he gets.
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@klause maybe, but its debatable. In many of these inter racial crime incidents there arent clear indicators that the attack was carried out for racial reasons. Yet people generally assume that because there were two different races involved, that it was due to race. If were assuming it with white on black crime we need to assume the same with black on white crime.
And it shouldn’t actually matter. To me, it doesnt really matter if someone killed someone because they were bored, or because they disliked their race or gender or religion or politics. Its still murder, you can’t really say its more evil if a murderer killed for pure joy or boredom vs hatred of a race or gender or religion.
But thats not how society is operating right now; for a lot of people, a racially motivated killing is, for some reason a much bigger issue than a killing done for other reasons. And the general logic is if theres an incident between people of different races, the incident occurred because of the racial differences. I know some people may want to pick and choose when that logic is applied and when it isnt but you cant do it that way it would be inconsistent. Cherrypicking essentially
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