Bad night with two separate ROB experiences.
First Lana, never took bottoms off. She told me she doesn't do full nude until second song. This is not the deal, and she did not mention this until I was committed. Stopped her after one song, paid the full $30 nude price for my meh topless, as I didn't want problems. No tip, though, not about to encourage this behavior.
Second was Cookie. She did the same thing, and I should have responded the same way. But I had gotten good reports on her here earlier so gave her a second song after she promised bottoms would come off. They never did. She also miscounted songs and demanded I pay for a third song. This time I did complain, but the manager (guy I had never seen before) backed her up of course, so with no other choice I paid up, $90 for what ended up as two topless, zero tip, and left.
I will be back though, as this is literally the first ever seriously bad experience here and it's still the best (read the only worthwhile) club I have found in the whole Chicago area, and there are still plenty of honest girls there.
As a general warning, I have run across two other 390 dancers so far with this personal no nude until second dance "rule" on recent trips - this is bs, it's not the deal at this club - but they did warn me before I was committed to any songs so I lost no money and these were NOT ROBs, so I won't be naming them. Just won't be buying dances from them.
This club was ridiculously dead for after midnight on a Friday night, about as many customers as girls. In general, business seems to be way down every night I go in - possibly the "stripper index" at work indicating an economic downturn coming soon. So, I wonder if certain desperate dancers are increasingly turning to scamming the few remining customers. I'm going to be more vigilant.
Just to leave this on a positive note, let me highly recommend Ella - same general body type as the two ROB's, but she gives honest dances and is a lot of fun (keeping it vague).
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last commentSo they basically double the price for a nude dance. I only pay the posted prices for dances. If she gave ba topless dance. Thats what you should have paid her for.
Im used to clubs where prices are listed
Thats what I pay. If they want more I just say no
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Can’t even imagine paying $30 for a single dance and STILL considering adding a tip on top of that????
Couldn’t be me.
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@GordieBoi so the manager backed her up, why did you pay the inflated amount? What if you refused? You shouldn’t have let them get away with that behavior. Not the dancer or the manager
Youre saying both chicas refused to take bottoms off? Sounds like boyfriend pimp scammer chicks
I dont think its about desperation- as they could have sold you more dances if they took the bottoms off. Theyre desperate not to break whatever boundaries they agreed to with their pimp
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What happens if I just refuse to pay? I don't know, never tried it, and I don't want to find out. Certainly not over a matter of less than $100. I seriously doubt they would call the cops over such a small amount - but more likely they ban me. Walking out without paying is a move for somebody ready to burn that club. See the part where it's the only even half decent club in Chicago area. I live here and don't get to travel very often. If I lose this club, that would suck pretty bad.
WW, don't know where you live but in Chicago area, $30 is the standard price of nude everywhere, and rules are strict, cameras are everywhere, floaters are omnipresent, no mileage is to be had anywhere - except for 390, which is why I can't afford to lose access to this club. Even at 390 not even half the girls offer any mileage, so it's best to reward the ones who do with a few bucks extra just to maintain that service in the future.
If Chicago sounds like a monger's idea of hell, I don't disagree.
Chunky, I have run into plenty of girls who can't or won't do full nude for whatever reason. I don't care what her reason is, bf, period, whatever it is it's her business. I only care that she tell me ahead of time that "I only do topless", so I can back out if I want to, and most do tell me ahead of time - so they don't end up in ROB reports.
Why I say it's desperation is that they are burning a customer by lying and ROBing, for some short term cash, sacrificing their reputations and long term earnings potential. That's a stupid choice - unless you are desparate and feel you have nothing to lose.
That's why I post ROB reports, in hopes that dishonesty will have a long term cost to the dancer, even if she got her piddly money in the short term.
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@GordieBoi you are right, if you dont want to risk being banned from the club, you cant just refuse to pay. Its still worth telling the managers about it. Unless the managers are also corrupt and know what the chicas are doing, they will at least find it suspicious if multiple people are reporting rhe same dancers. And i dont know if you said this earlier but i would just stop anything beyond one dance once you find out the chica isnt doing full nude
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Chunky, I did try to refuse to pay the overcharge the second time (when a bit more money was at stake), it was her that got the manager involved to demand I pay up.
I do believe he was some degree of corrupt, either actively working with her or more likely passively, just not willing to deal with her shit. I say that because as we walked away from the ROB, he told me things like "I know you're a good customer" (I am) and to "chalk it up and be careful who you go back with." I translated that as "I know she's a ripoff but for whatever reason we're not prepared to reign her in or fire her, so just avoid her in future." Which I will, but I'm also calling her out here.
And yes, I did mention that I stopped the first girl after one song, thus only out $30, and I also mentioned that I should have stopped the second girl after one song, but I overrode my usual rule based on a previous great review of her here on Tuscl, which was apparently out of date.
I normally consider the price of one dance as a one-time "product evaluation fee" - what it costs to learn for sure if any further dances are warranted of if she will be a one-and-done, permanently. This club has a very large roster and I am spending a small fortune just testing each one, looking for a handful of needles in a big haystack
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That was a thing at Atlantis not going full nude until 3 or more songs, not sure if still stands. Sounds like either some girls or practices migrated. I hope that gets fixed.
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@Juslovin Yeah I found that at Atlantis, the one time I tried the place. Never, ever again.
I don't think girls are migrating from Atlantis to 390, if anything it seems migration is the other direction. But this despicable practice does seem to have been independently re-invented at 390 recently - presumably for the same reason, a way to squeeze more dances, and more money, out of customers when business is as slow as it has been.
The problem will fix itself in time UNLESS a lot of customers start tolerating it, which sadly could happen. Some dudes just have no self control around strippers.
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Many times I've had a dancer try to pull shit on me in the vip. I never pay first. If she pulls any shit at the beginning, I say "this isn't working for me", and I leave without paying anything. If a bouncer or manager gets involved I keep it short. They'll ALWAYS side with the dancer, as she's hard to replace. They may kick me out, to impress the dancer. If shit starts well after the song starts, I'll pay for one dance. If I had been in your shoes I would have asked "lets get those panties off". If she said second song I'd say that's not what I paid for. And walk out.
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