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Why so many Americans still deny racism exists when the evidence is everywhere.

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CJKent_bandThe truth hurts, but if you accept it, it will set you free

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chunkychicano

Part of a free society is everyone has the freedom to be racist.

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Puddy Tat

This meeting of the lib cope squad is being called to order!

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Icey

Ive never seen racism like this before. Trump made it socially acceptable to be openly racist. Bigots were never this brazen before. The attacks on civil rights are msking it even worse

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You’re right, but change Trump to Obama

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chunkychicano

^Lol i didnt know about the Amish beard thing. Maybe he pretends to be Amish and tries to pimp out goats, cows…

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Baristafan

Is this guy gay?

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Icey

prospect.org
Trump’s Flagrant Racism
It’s the flip side of Trump’s DEI for incompetent white people.

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Studme53

By everywhere do you mean in every corner of the globe and inside your home ?

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CJKent_band

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Everywhere where Americans exist.

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Icey

The US is the only postcolonial nation that hasnt had an open dialogue on the fact that it was founded on genocide slavery and racism. This is why some people are extremely defensive about the facts.

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Puddy Tat

^ LOL dumb shit we haven't stopped talking about it for decades.

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chunkychicano

Im not sure you could say it was founded on those things. They did kill the natives, but what % of the landmass was occupied by the natives?

Only the wealthiest people owned slaves. So slavery occurred, but to say the country was founded on it is a stretch

The US and most western countries are the most multicultural countries around… have you looked at the african, asian, middle eastern countries…

Also part of freedom of speech.. free expression and free association literally means you can be racist lol. You can say whatever you want about whichever race, and pick who you hang out with and make friends with. You can even pick who you work with

most of the complaints around racism involve people not understanding how a free country works

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I remember when I was in high school a history teacher got mad at me when I referred to the Founding Fathers as the Founding Felons. I also said we should put yellow tape around North America because it was a crime scene. He almost had a heart-attack. He asked me where I got my information and I showed him history books written by Lerone Bennett, Jr., Ivan Van Sertima, and John Hope Franklin and Chancelor Williams. Even as a child, I never brought knives to a gunfight. I always brought facts and receipts. This is why it's important to read and analyze and engage even those who don't share your experience. Not about close-minded hate but about growth and a willingness to explore.

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Icey

Right. And history isnt just the oast. Its a set of socio historical processes that keep impacting us. The thing is you can't address disadvantage without addressing advantage. Who benefits from racism. Whose cultural mores are normative. Who sits on the periphery

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Puddy Tat

I love how people think the white man is a uniquely oppressive race. Mexicans play the wounded victim but look at what the Aztecs did to the rest of them. Native Americans were killing each other and despoiling the environment long before whitey even showed up.

For 12 years now, I hear the grievance industry say America hasn't had an honest conversation about race. It looks to me like we haven't stopped having that conversation, even at the expense of what really plagues many of these communities. It harms everyone to say that hard work, self-control, and punctuality are "white" when every successful society does this.

What the race mongers mean is that we don't shut up and submit to them. That's not a conversation, that's a struggle session. And if that's what you want, sit and spin, bitch.

@oscar - Good on you for coming with facts but if you look at the net effect of the Founding Fathers, it was overwhelmingly positive. Unless the only virtuous individuals in this world are the complete unknowns who may not have done anything wrong but have accomplished little too.

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Icey

Puddytat youre the poster child for self hate and internalized racism

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Puddy Tat

^ Yawn. You're boring and fact free.

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chunkychicano

Racism can occur anywhere. If you go for a job interview… the person can be secretly biased and favor whichever race/gender/etc they want.

If you’re actually interested in ending racism you would do away with things like affirmative action, a TV channel specifically for one race, awards specifically for one race, protesting only for specific races, donating only to specific races, not segregating netflix by race, not segregating uber eats by race, etc.

Also if the founding fathers were just buying and using slaves, thats not much different than what nike, apple and others are doing nowadays. Those brands are loved by people who complain of historical slavery.

If someone is racist its literally a personality flaw. Like greed and arrogance. Its good to strive to get rid of greed and arrogance racism, but theyre ultimately all things that you can engage in if you choose to. Just like you can donate to karmelo anthony… other people can donate to the white lady that said the N word… and its laughable that many consider those to be comparable when one of them just said a bad word and the other stabbed someone.

It reminds me of 2020, people were complaining about nazi flags, confederate flags being flown at certain rallies, but refused to even condemn BLM protesters blowing up buildings!
Thats basically what were dealing with, theres a segment of society that considers “hate speech” racist words and symbols to be a bigger issue than people getting attacked or businesses getting blown up.

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