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Cuban Strippers: Are they coached to be deceptive?

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ElectronmanToo much of a good thing is never enough

I do my best to refrain from drawing sweeping generalizations about an ethnic group based on limited experiences but I've had a sequence of interactions with Cuban dancers where they agreed to certain terms for a private dance (e.g., dancing nude) and then failed to honor that agreement. The usual routine is to blame the language barrier.

This has happened even when using a translation app, that allows you to go back and review the transcript of a translated conversation. This has happened so often with Cuban dancers (and much less so with other dancers, including Mexican and Latina dancers) that I'm beginning to suspect that there is a training school for Cuban dancers that coaches them to agree to anything to secure a private dance and then refuse to honor that agreement.

Before I do a personal moratorium on Cuban dancers (many of whom are very attractive) are others having similar experiences?

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stripperlover777

' ✅ ' ' ' ' ' I think they just like ta' take

advantage of their tradition in general coz they think Americans is customary forced ta' over look it, i.e. they can get away with it and go further to apply it being deceptive & overly stern/aggressive.
They can use their country & financial woes here as a factor means to push customers over the limit.
Be sure ya' take phone screenshots of the agreed strip club services with language translation!
Make sure your stripper actually sees you with the screenshots!
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I will say, It can't be of all Cuban strippers coz I've still heard a lot of good things about em' & da' YouTube vids influence varies.
Also, I noticed some likeing for their dark skin & luscious bully lips.
I've never experienced Cuban dancers in person, just American, AA & Latina strippers.
Cubans is also competing with American, AA & other Latina strippers, Pimps & traditional American clientele going after strippers they already be familiar with.
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They could be looking for hurdles to overcome that, but strip clubs has ta' draw the line & actually observe what is happening.
Just make sure the Cubans is using good business composure, ethics & be diverse with their hiring.
I would hate to see customer conflicts with management with da' issues.
Good heads up, K
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Icey

Most of these girls are hardened cuban hookers trafficked to the US. Theyre desperate to repay their traffickers.

I know a girl in Vegas who lives in apts where a lot of cuban strippers live. Theyre fucking animals. Shootings different men drugs. Guys acting like cubans are classy or quality are delusional. These are hardened hoes.

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Icey

Most of the cubans have boyfriend pimps

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Icey

Ive hsd ride share drivers offer their cuban gfs for as low as $100. Others say these are vheap hoes who fucked for $5 in. Cuba and hate Cubans in the club coz tehy know how cheap these hoes really are

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Icey

Most speak english but part of their scam is to pretend not to so they can take advantage of anglo tricks. According to cuban men its yue same shit hookers do in Cuba

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Icey

Cubans live like fucking animals. Mo shame and no common sense

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Icey

130 am with a bad bitch. Night ruoned listening to cubans screaming band screaming snd fucking screaming at each other while cars drive up throwing shit and shooting in the air. This is their fucking culture

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Icey

Banged on their door and made the bitches stfu

Now back to sexy time lulz

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RTP

I have experienced Cubans in multiple clubs across a number of states. First of all, they are humans and not all the same. However they do push hard and ask for tips endlessly. I do find that they deliver. I have only had one not do what she promised, and she is a Cuban who has been in the U.S. for more than a decade.

I agree with Ivey, most owe a handler money for their entree into the U.S. or some other reason. I think they are pushed hard to pay off this money. I have gotten to know one Cuban a bit and she brought over a sister and her parents. She has quite a bill.

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chunkychicano

Everything icey said is made up. His big issue with cuban dancers and hookers is that they often charge lower rates and also look better than many American girls- and in particular made it harder for his prior girlfriends to make money at the club due to cubans offering more mileage for lower rates.

I havent done anything with cubans ITC but havent found them to be scammers. The only thing ive noticed is some dont provide all the GFE services.

Iceys examples of them living like animals can just as easily apply to any ghetto dancers including black, white, american latinas.

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And I dont know about the trafficking wouldn’t they historically be less trafficked than the other latina groups. So the ones that are like 26+ right now are less likely to have been trafficked?

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I have interacted with easily several dozen Cubans in many different clubs in different states. I have never had one not do what was agreed upon. On a couple of occasions, I have had some rush things along a bit more than I liked. However, that has not been an issue with them any more than any other ethnicity. I have no problems at all with Cubans.

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Icey

Paying off their traffickers and making their quotas is the main reason Cubans under cut other girls in the club. The debt is a lot of pressure. Its more desperation than hustle.

As for the coldness. Its not cultural. Theyre just hardened hookers who come here eith the promise of 💰

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I deal with Cuban strippers all the time, mostly in south Florida but in a few other areas too. I almost never see what you're describing. I don't pre-negotiate specific things like you're talking about, so it can't really happen to me exactly that way to begin with. But looking at it more generically it's rare there is something I ask for or attempt to do that they deny. It never happens that they lie about it.

There are cases where they're less than transparent about pricing, but in almost all cases the common denominator is the club and not the dancer nationality. You're more likely to get scammed by the white girl at Club Madonna on Miami Beach than you are by the Cuban chick at Booby Trap Pompano.

I do rooms with Cuban chicks on the regular, we agree on price up front but that's it. There were few who were cold and mechanical or lazy and disinterested, but almost never do they refuse do do stuff. The only real issue I have with the Cuban chicks that I don't have with others is the language barrier. It's harder to hang out and shoot the shit at the club. We have the same perfunctory conversations over and over.

Don't get it wrong, I'm not claiming they're superior in any way. Just that I see no evidence of a pattern of them being scammers at a higher rate than any other group.

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Electronman

Sounds like my negative experiences with Cuban dancers have been the exception, rather than the norm. I'll continue to sample the Cuban dancers and maybe work on my basic Spanish.

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Icey

No. Your negative experience is the norm. Dolfan basically corroborated it is fine with it.

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Icey

Most just pretend not to speak English.

They usually dislike Latino men coz they know what they're like. See how many refuse latin tricks.

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I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, I have never had a problem with a Cuban stripper that hasn’t happened with any other nationalities, like Dolfan said before it’s more likely to be a club generated issue, than a girl caused issue.
I think icee talks out of his ass, just for the sake of being an ass.

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I haven't strip clubbed in Pompano in a week so my information may be stale, but I found the Cubans more outgoing and conversational that at any time ever.

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chunkychicano

Lol icee you claim Dolfan corroborated you when he didnt. You must be high again 😂

By your own admission yet again your issue with cuban girls is they “under cut other girls at the club”. And your prior girlfriends lost income because of them. Youre bitter because they are more willing to do extras at market rates and it makes it harder for you or your girls to charge higher prices. You have guys who have been to many more clubs than you who are admitting the cubans arent scamming.
Also you claim you dont even pursue extras or p4p. So you have no personal experience with cubans other than the apartment neighbors

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chunkychicano

And a lot of them avoid black or latino clients because of concerns of being pimped or robbed

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chunkychicano

When it comes to the cubans you turn into the white supremacist racist you claim to be so against 😂

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Puddy Tat

Am I the anomaly who's never had a problem with a Cuban?
Yeah, they're right to "wanna dance?" but they've never underdelivered or tried to rip me off.

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Icey

Cubans vary regionally. Like NYC Cuban culture and politics are way different from Miami. And the West coast gets the worst Florida rejects.

Ive seen ghetto. And i like things a little ratchet sometimes. But ive never seen anything as bad as Cubans.

I can completely understand why so many don't want Latino customers and gravitate towards Anglos. They dont want to be called out or treated for what they are.

Ive known some. They can have a very cute way of flirting. And you can break their walls down. But its like you're not really dealing with any latin culture. More like a culture of poverty both mental snd material and a constant struggle. The US isn't the paradise they were sold on.

Their ghetto culture is like something out of Brazilian favelas or something.

Sometimes in a club you can see theyre scared and just desperate to meet that quota. So they do whatever for whatever price.

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I've seen Cubans all over, but mostly in Texas, South Florida, a little in Detroit, and Tampa, PHX, very few in Chicago. By far, they are the hottest in Pompano, Miami second, and then Texas and PHX (tied for a distant third). English is all over the place with S.Fla being the worst, but last visit not so bad. Chicago Cubans like never heard of English. In terms of service, best is Pompano hands down. Miami is full of mechanics, about half and half in Texas. I've always had the agreed upon service for the price. A few times I've been hassled with tips, mostly in Miami and PHX. In terms of undercutting, the only place I've heard that complaint was in Tampa.

In terms of ghetto culture, I don't really see it. I've had girls talk to me in something that sort of resembles Spanish and others that were like from Spain with their Spanish. It's not a good indicator of level of service or friendliness. I do agree that if you don't speak Spanish, it's pretty transactional (not necessarily mechanical).

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Icey

Anyways when your contact with them is limited to being a customer. You wont see what theyre really like. Youll just like the cheap hooker aspect

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Dolfan

Icey, I didn't corroborate OP's complaint, my experience is the opposite. Maybe there are some regional differences, but the way you describe Cuban chicks is in no way reflective of what we see in south Florida. I don't do a lot of strip clubbing when I travel, but occasionally I do. I'm not gonna comment on the other areas cause I don't spend enough time doing it.

Going back to the OP's original comment, I want to add that translators are not perfect. Especially when it comes to nuance. It's very possible to interpret the google translation of nude as bare, which could easily be thought of as topless, if topless is the norm at that club that's a very plausible explanation for that specific scenario. You might have to try to be even more explicit or say things two different ways to confirm. If it's specifically a nude dance, you could try something like writing "completely nude, without panties or a bra." Or point to her panties and say something like "posible quita estos" quita is pronounced like key tah and that very roughly translates to can you remove these. It's absolutely trash Spanish, but if you say it like that I'm sure she'll understand what you want & she won't start thinking you know how to speak Spanish.

The pointing approach could be another way remove the doubt. The translator isn't perfect. They've got different words for panties in different parts of Cuba. The chicks from the more rural parts are probably gonna call them blumers but the ones from the cities are more likely to call it a tanga. Google translates it to bragas. Chances are they'll understand any of those words, or even the word panties in Spanish is correct, albeit spelt without the e. But for example, coher can mean take as in take a drink, but can also mean fuck as in sexual intercourse. And joder will translate to fuck, but the Cubans use it more like nag, bug, bother. No fuck and no bother are obviously very different sentiments.

If Ron's reading, maybe he can include some tips in his Spanish for mongers article. If you didn't read his first one, check it out.

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Icey

Dolfan. You said those things happen but not just with Cubans. Thats a diplomatic way of stating it.

Most know English. Its just part of the hustle.

That Spanish for mongers article is stupid.
Sounding dry and clinical just makes her loathe a customer.

If you want her to take everything off put money in her hand guide her hand from her top to her panties and say quitate todo todito.

If you want to see her tits say un dolar pa las chichis.

Be playful and confident. Teasing. Upbeat. Not demanding or clinical sounding.

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Icey

Call panties pantysito. Its direct but the diminutive makes it playful.

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Iknowbetter

I don’t know where OP is experiencing this issue, but here in south Florida I don’t think I’ve ever experienced a stripper failing to deliver, of any nationality. There have been disappointments from time to time when a super hot stripper is a dud in VIP, but they always deliver as promised. Cuban strippers get a bad rap in Miami because there are so many of them and many are very aggressive. I have found that strippers of all nationalities dislike black men and Latino men. But they all love old white guys with money.

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Icey

Cubans dont like latino customers because they see through their bs.

They especially dislike Cuban customers for that reason.

They like middle aged to older white men because theyre easy marks.

Many think Black guys are the most prone to trick if they have a little money.

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dannyboy3

I speak Spanish so maybe that makes ot different, but I've never had trouble with Cubans that was different from any other group. Once in a great while the girl will understand perform, but not more frequently than any other girl.

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chunkychicano

As far as them hating latino men, thats an issue of exposure and probability. They grew up around latino men and have dealt with them the most, so they have the most complaints about them. There are actually a bunch of minority groups who complain about men or women of their race for the same reason. Many many cases of black men or women hating on their own race.

Plus a latino guy might be more likely to want a relationship or want to pimp the girl out.

As far as their issue with black people, its a common stereotype that they will try to haggle, wont pay up, dont have money or will try to pimp them out. Many escorts dont see black clients… some wont even see latino clients for the same concerns.

Preferring older white men isnt because of them being easy marks. Theyre the most likely to have money, the least likely to be aggressive or try pimping them out. Being a mark is more about inexperienced customers being taken advantage of.

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Also they are not that cheap. Maybe its because Miami are expensive. The ones from Miami ask for higher rates than any other latina group. Im not even sure if iceys examples of uber drivers offering their girls for $100 are cuban or he just assumes theyre cuban.

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Baristafan

I have never had a problem. I love latina dancers. It is clear they are hard works and know what men want.
I bagged a columbian stripper a few weeks ago. She pulled out a condom and asked Yes? NO? I said no and off to the races. She was waaaaay to fucking hot for me.
I have never met a latina stripper that required a condom unless she had a black pimp.

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funonthaside

It seems Cubans are known more for aggression than being deceptive. In my experience, it has been white girls that play the deception game.

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Icey

They hide the deception by pretending not to speak english etc

How many profiles does rickymacrodong/cacaplop have? Hes turned TUSCL into a one autistic trick show.... With honorable mention to rickdugan/baghdad bob and puddytat/weirdo republitrick

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chunkychicano

Lol are you saying baristafan is me?

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chunkychicano

A lot of them dont speak much english

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Baristafan

I am waiting for the strip clubs to get raided. Chicas Bonitas will lose 90% of their dancers overnight.

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