It is long past time that they got what's coming to them. They've been running a 3-pronged proxy war against Israel for decades now. They've also been sponsoring terrorist groups who have been wreaking havoc in other Arab countries.
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Enough is enough. Israel shouldn't stop until Iran's military and nuclear capabilities are pounded back into the fucking stone age.
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For all these years, Iran counted on the U.S. to restrain Israel while they pulled this shit. The Middle East would erupt if Israel struck back, or so the theory went. But everyone is now so sick of Iran, including its neighboring countries, that nobody is coming to help, including the rest of the Arab world.
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So bomb baby bomb!
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last commentA republitrick supporting another American proxy war. When trump invades go volunteer to fight
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Iran will finally show Israel FAFO
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American involvement will be the end of Trump
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^ You need to adjust your meds
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If one American is killed by Iran, this will provide justification for the US to drop 30,000 pound bunker busters on all Iranian nuclear sites to bury them. One is .5 miles underground and will require multiple poundings. We have them, use them when needed.
Iran's perverted Satanic "leaders" want to live in 900AD, we can pound them back to 900AD to enjoy their 72 virgins who are the gays they murdered just for being gay.
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The Arab world being Sunni, never fully trusted and still dont fully trust Israel or Iran.
I dont think its that the Arab countries are sick of Iran. Those countries are just scared shitless of both Israel and the US. They also don’t really have the resources to assist Iran militarily in any way.
Assuming israel beats iran and the 3 proxy groups, what do you think will happen next. Will there finally be peace in the middle east, or do you think israel will attempt expansion since they will be the dominant power there?
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The lack of outrage from the Muslim states is a sea change. Conventional wisdom held that an Israeli attack on any Muslim nation would be treated as a declaration of war on all Muslim nations. This proves that Iran has no support from anyone.
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Israel has 10 million people in a country the size of New Jersey (our 46th largest state).
Iran has 92 million and would stretch roughly from Denver to Chicago and south to the Gulf of Meximerica.
There already is a (Sunni) Muslim country with a bomb and a quarter-billion people. (Pakistan)
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Gammanu there is global outrage against Israels invasion bof Iran
Mogul More islamophobic kkk drivel from your tin foil hat ass
Americans wont tolerate being dragged into a war. The vast majority of Americans won't want to see Americans dying to defend a genocidal rogue State
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What is the worst part of this , is the mullah spending all his money on weaponry, at least in Israel they make sure to provide bomb shelters for their at risk citizens, another point to make is that IDF makes their forces provide warnings to the Iranian citizens an hour before dropping bombs, yet the Iranian government doesn’t even have air raid sirens.
If it were up to me I’d go after not just their military leaders, I would target the Ayatollah and the President and their parliament, they deserve to be held responsible for the deaths of citizens of both nations.
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@Puddy do you think Netanyahu will want to target Pakistan next?
@Gammanu Iran was actually allied with Israel up till the 90s or something… Israel was even secretly selling them weapons. Maybe they will become allies again, if they change the regime
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@RMD: Many of the Arab countries are indeed sick of Iran. I guess you haven't been following some of this, but Israel hasn't been the only target of Iranian proxies. Yemen and Lebanon have been struggling with these same proxies for years now. Iran is also funding destabilizing militias in Bahrain, Iraq and Syria. It's all part of their "Axis of Resistance" campaign.
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Meanwhile, countries like Saudi Arabia, Jordan and the Arab Emirates have been opposing Iran's efforts through its own proxies. These countries are trying to modernize and have no interest in going back to a fundamentalist state.
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So Iran is very much alone now. Heck a number of Arab leaders are no doubt privately cheering this on, even as they are posturing otherwise publicly. Iran has caused too much grief to too many governments in the Middle East.
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@RMD - No. Pakistan's concern is with India.
Israel gets along remarkably well with Muslim countries that aren't trying to wipe them off the map.
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Pakistan, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, China, Lebanon, African and latin American nations have stood by Iran. Iraq has complained to the UN about Israel violating its airspace.
Your tinfoil hats are on too tight
But keep supporting a genocidal rogue state and wanting Americans to die for ir.
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Youre fucking neonazis. Supporting the repression of protests. Genocide in Palestine.israel whose leader is a wanted war criminal. Racists homophobes. Fucking human garbage
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@rick ive read that the people of Lebanon liked Hezbollah. Maybe its a minority there who like them. They held big events for their leaders. Saudi and Iran had issues but supposedly started normalizing since 2023.
Those same Arab leader’s dont do anything even if it comes to their own fellow Arab brothers in Palestine or Lebanon… so no doubt they wouldnt do anything for Iran which is a different race and sect.
Some of them might be secretly cheering but I also think they’re pissing in their pants.
What do you think comes next, though, in the next 10, 20 years after Iran and the proxies are beaten?
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Icey you have to familiarize yourself with terminology… people who support Israel cant simultaneously be neonazis.. lol
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===> "What do you think comes next, though, in the next 10, 20 years after Iran and the proxies are beaten?"
Hopefully nothing but peace and prosperity. Anyone who thinks that a country the size of New Jersey, with only 10 million people (only 8 million of whom are even Jewish), is going to start attacking much larger Arab nations is fucked in the head. All they've wanted since forever is to be left alone, but fundamentalist regimes like Iran and its proxies simply cannot tolerate their existence.
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@icey "genocidal rogue state"
Did Israel declare in their Constitution to eliminate Islam? Who has been hitting Israel? Iran's number 1 goal is to the destroy Western/Infidel society, and take over all they can?
I like the phrase Trump is using "Spit on us, we'll hit on you." Iran as we know it will be gone before then end of the year.
Iran and it's proxy terrorist thugs attacking Israel, or the USA (now), is like walking up and slapping Conor McGregor. The response will be brutal, and that is what we are seeing today. No more pussy footing around with Iran, time for the dustbin of history like the USSR, Nazi, Fascist Italy, Empire of Japan, Pol Pot and so on.
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@Rick what do you make of Erdogan being very pro Hamas yet Turkey also being part of NATO?
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@Puddy Lol at that knockout picture. Who made that?
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^ "47th President knocks out low-level Vegas pothead pimp"
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Mogul israel doesnt have a constitution as that would violate jewish law. Having a leader wanted for war crimes and genocide make it a rogue State .
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Youre all so fucking delusional you think Americans would support a war with iran on behalf of israel
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Going after their civilian politicians would be incredibly stupid. Trump is smart to have nixed an Israeli assassination of the ayatollah. Regime change must come from within. Anyone who hasn't learned that lesson from Iraq and Afghanistan needs to struggle. Hopefully, Russia is too bowed up in Ukraine to assist quelling a new Iranian Revolution.
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Struggle, lol. Autocorrect.
*STFU
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Gammanut stick to trolling 20fag. Its more entertaining than your extremist delusions
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^ LOL! The JCPOA was the work of the utterly useless John Kerry with no enforcement mechanisms. Obama and Biden loved them some mullah asshole on their tongues. Now, our ally, Israel, is fixing the problem.
Trump's judgment on the Middle East has been repeatedly vindicated. If the Nobel Peace Prize weren't political, he'd have gotten it for the Abraham Accords.
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What Jewish law would you be referring to icee,? are you Jewish?
Best guess is this guy icee is a moron who makes up shit out of his ass.
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When America bombs Tehran the next target will be Icey the nazi cum swallower. Progressives support Iran and must be dealt with next.
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Now the U.S. is considering dropping its 30,000 lb bunker busters in order to neutralize Iran's nuclear capabilities. The largest that Israel has is a 5,000 lb version, which would require several runs over Iranian airspace to be used safely and effectively given how deep underground the biggest facility is. Bombs away!
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Iran really fucked up when they attacked Israel directly. They finally gave Israel an undeniable justification for direct action. No doubt they felt stuck between a rock and a hard place when Israel started dismantling its "Axis of Resistance", but they horribly under-estimated Israel's willingness to take the fight directly to them.
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Bomb baby bomb!
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We’ve every reason to go after Iran ourselves, they’ve been killing Americans since before the marine barracks bombing with no real consequences, you isolationists who have an issue with us siding with the Israelis are just a bunch of cowards. Killing the Ayatollah is justified, he’s a murderous bastard himself. Fuck this idea of regime change, that the Iranians can decide for themselves, we should support them if they request, it would be the end of Russian influence in the region, which would be a huge plus, and if we can make this happen the entire region will benefit plus Mr. Trump’s signature achievement “The Abraham Accords” would become the standard for the Middle East, bringing Trumps presidency some real accomplishments and marking his administration as a serious consequential presidency.
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Israel has a set of basic laws that apply for a specific time frame and are then renewed. They act as a de facto constitution but there is no constitution as such. Google it dumb bitch.
50/Rickymacrodong its crazy how many profiles you have.
Rick and 25 its crazy how the two of you think Americans should fight for a genocidal state . That shows more of your character bor lack of
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^ You’re a paranoid idiot who doesn’t possess critical thinking abilities, you opine on things you have zero knowledge or understanding about.
Where’s your logic calling Israel a genocidal state. You can tap all you like doesn’t change the facts, Israel was attacked they have every right to defend themselves, you’re complaining about the intended victim turned the tables on their bullies. Typical anti-semetic nonsense.
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^ @25: Sadly, the one thing that Israel's enemies have been good at is spinning the narrative of Israel as a perpetual aggressor in countless media sources over countless years. They can't govern, can't pull their people out of poverty and can't build an effective military, but they sure can spin victim stories. 😉
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Anyone who actually understands the situation finds this laughable of course. Only a retard would believe that this tiny country, with only 8 million Jews, wants conflict with the hundreds of millions of Arabs surrounding it on all sides. But there are simply too many of these ignorant types who lap up the PR nonsense without a lick of real understanding of the situation.
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Icey is your typical, spineless, ignorant, jew hating piece of shit. Muslims constitue almost 25% of the population of the world and managed the amazing feat of winning 9% of all Nibel prizes ever awarded, Jews who represent .01% of the population of the world have garnered 23%. I choose them over the pigs who worship the pedophile Mohammed and his fucking 9-year-old wife.
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Netanyahu is wanted by the ICC for war crimes and genocide.
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International Criminal Court arrest warrants for Israeli leaders
Trumps aiding of Israeli war crimes and engaging in spreading disinformation for Israel makes his bitch ass a foreign intelligence asset
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The ICC's' a joke, along with the rest of the "international community."
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The ICC is a political body posing as a court. Among its more notable member countries include Venezuela, Uganda and the "State of Palestine", all regimes who support violence and subjugation. It has long ago abandoned any real pursuit of justice and instead chooses its targets for ideological reasons.
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No matter who the loser may be, you can be sure Icey is there supporting them.
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Rick youre a weirdo who says the hookers you pay isnt paying hookers. Who created a broken home for your kids but hates on hoes coming from broken homes. Now you claim which international org is valid and which isnt. While supporting a genocidal regime and pretending that Americans want to die for Israel. You have some serious delusions
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Skibum how come weed makes you this angry and belligerent?
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^ I hate fucking Nazis like you and every other progressive. Every fucking scumbag in history hated Jews. They all met the same fate.
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Lol how did you figure out im 50, icey
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Icey, nobody besides you takes the ICC seriously anymore. It's an ideological paper tiger. Even member countries won't arrest those convicted by the ICC when they come on state visits.
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Nobody here takes icee seriously anymore, he’s just a joke. Talks a lot of shit, I’ll bet he’s on other websites as a right winger, he just wants to stir up controversy, this website would be better if founder would keep him out of here.
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Rick anything out of your mouth is either an outright lie or gross exaggeration. That's been proven over and over on here.
The fact that the US and its Western imperialist allies ignore international law just shows theyre imperialists supporting rogue states who do their dirty work
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^There is no such thing as Interntional Law you stupid fucking cunt. Just a progressive loser thug wannabe.
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Icey your okay with theft and even inter racial murder like karmelo anthony, cannon hinnant, etc. your criticism of israel is more about personal beef with right wingers than any genuine thoughts on the middle east situation.
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^ Icee just says shit to get a rise out of people. He admits he lays around smoking weed all day.
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So much for that America first gimmick 🤡💩
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Just give them bombard them until compliance. That's it. Do not send ONE troop. Not one.
It sounds mean but you have to islam your bitch. That's what they respect. I'll tell you what they don't respect, when you invite the muslim world (stupidly) into your christian countries, packs of their men gang rape your daughters, and you like the biggest beta bitch of all time, blame yourself instead of you know just slaughtering them wholesale like anyone else with common sense would. Yeah what's going on in Europe is so fucking stupid. I would rather kill them before they kill you (which they are very explict in wanting to do, they say it out loud, been doing for centuries) but you have to be willing to be cruel, have a spine and not always be a faggot liberal all the time.
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Muddy what christian country? This is a country where youre free to be a Christian not a Christian country. Did they gang rape your mom when she was pregnant and too many dicks hit your head causing bigotry and retardation?
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@Muddy - the Middle East, like Russia, only respects strength. Netanyahu and most of Israel understands that fact. When someone says they want to kill you, believe them. Obama and Biden, under the influence of Valerie Jarrett, never believed that fact.
Muslims tend to behave themselves well in America, because (though the left thinks this is evil), we demand they adopt American values. Euros have pussified and forgotten Enlightenment values, giving Muslim immigrants no alternative. That's when they start gang raping English girls, only for English police to chastise the victims for provoking them. Or they assault patrons in English restaurants, and the cops reprimand the victim. Or they have literal laws in place against burning the Quran. Or they have no-go zones where they run with impunity. Or they openly demonstrate for Germany to be ruled by a theocratic caliphate.
A commentator said that if Hillary won in 2016, we'd be where the UK is right now, socially. America isn't a Christian nation, but it has bedrock Christian values. We won't miss them until a more brutal set of values supplants them.
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Now we have uber-cunt Whoopi Goldberg saying a black person has is as good in Iran as they do in America. OK, Whoopi, go ahead and move there. You'll learn the different when you get beaten to death and disappeared for not covering your head.
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Dem politicians struggle to understand motivated dictators and other bad actors because they believe in nothing but themselves. Everything to them is just a cynical game of political maneuvering. They can't wrap their arms around the mindsets of dictators whose actions are driven by higher callings or purposes, at least until the damage begins.
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Other countries understand this all too well and leverage it in their policy interactions with U.S. officials during Dem administrations. Heck a lot of the high government officials in many countries attended the same universities (Harvard, Yale, Princeton) as their American counterparts and seem to speak the same language, which just further reinforces what all too many Dem pols believe about the real motivations of other governments.
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And then boom, that country does something for reasons that the Dems cannot process and then the world has changed. Rinse, repeat/
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So basically you support war coz youre islamophobes.
Your bigotry outweighs your feigned belief in America first 🤡 💩
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@Rick did you see the tucker carlson and ted cruz interview? Thoughts on that? Also Tucker says Qatar is a great country or something like that… some claim he gets paid by them nowadays
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Appears to me that Iran is just like it’s main patron Russia, both are paper tigers, neither has a clue about how to fight a war, bullies to their core.
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^ Agreed 25. Better still, exposing them while also diminishing them has made the world a much safer place.
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Russia is quickly losing its ability to project its influence in other parts of the world. When this is over, it will take them many years to overhaul their military industrial complex.
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Iran has already lost its ability to impose its will on its "Axis of Resistance" partners and to seriously threaten its neighbors directly. It's also poised to lose its biggest international bargaining chip once its ability to enrich uranium is demolished.
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This has been an incredibly good period for the good guys.
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Rick pulling more maga and zionazi propaganda out of his ass. Stick to pretending the hookers you pay aren't hookers 🤡💩
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We have owed Iran a complete destruction of their country since 1979. Now is the time. How do you know when someone is an ignorant cunt who sucks muslim cock? They use the fake word "islamaphobe."
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Israel has been kicking ass and chewing bubblegum, and they've run all out of bubblegum. Iran's regional proxies are being defeated. Their Russian sugar daddy is bogged down elsewhere. At best, the Sunni states would publicly grumble about Israel, but deep down they know the apocalyptic Shia death cult is no friendlier to them than it is to Israel.
I'm not an "Islamophobe," because a phobia is an irrational fear. I am quite rationally concerned about militant Islam, whether it's the way they are infiltrating Europe, or the admitted terrorists that crept in over the Biden border.
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Bigots pretending to rationalize supporting a genocidal state because of their own islamophobia 🤡💩
Guess the america first gimmick didnt last long for magatards
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America Last: No U.S. Demographic Supports War on Iran
And this coming from the right.
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Genocide? Talk about one dumb as bricks twat quoting another. 😉
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^^ Only a truly stupid person thinks libertarians are right wing. God you are fucking dumb. You graduate high school asshole? By the way Caitlin Johnston is an aids infected nazi hooker. Great source bruh.
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Right rick. Theres no genocide in gaza just like the hookers you fuck arent hookers 🤡💩
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^ By what convoluted logic does what is happening in Gaza genocide. It's more attempted genocide, the perpetrators were Hamas and they failed miserably.
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^ Shit Israel has been bending over backwards trying to convince the Palestinians to move out of the way so they could get to Hamas. Cell calls, texts and even flyers dropped from the air. Imagine fighting a war where you announce to your enemy in advance exactly where you are going, but that's what they're doing - at risk to their own lives.
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Meanwhile Hamas is using civilians as human shields, even building bunkers under hospitals. They've even tried to convince civilians that the notifications they were getting were a trick and that they should stay put. Hamas clearly wants civilian casualties - the more the better for the PR machine.
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Israel has caused the least amount of civilian casualties in street-by-street fighting in the history of warfare, by far. If the Israelis were really smart though, they'd have wiped Gaza off the map completely by the end of October, in perfect payback for 10.6. Muslims like the publicity they get from nazis and progressives when they cause a large number of "civilians" to die. In the same way that progressives like the publicity they get when they become urban terrorists and attack normal americans and our institutions.
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===> "It's also poised to lose its biggest international bargaining chip once its ability to enrich uranium is demolished."
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And now it has! Fucking A awesome! Early reports indicate that it took several 30,000 pound bunker busters to destroy Fordow alone given how deep it was buried under a mountain.
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Iran was given every chance to come to the table and negotiate a true peace. But that was never what they wanted, as they have made clear with never-ending aggression across the Middle East for decades through its various proxies. Who knows what they would have done if they obtained nuclear capabilities?
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I shudder at the thought of those crazy ass animals getting their hands on weapon grade plutonium. Now that threat has been removed and the world has truly become a much safer place.
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There are some whiny types in the press who are now making dire predictions that Iran will try to strike back somehow. Perhaps they will, but it would be a big mistake. It would give Israel and perhaps us as well the justification to finish wiping out Iran's missile silos and to completely level all of its military bases.
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What great fucking news to wake up to this morning.
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===> "Trump is smart to have nixed an Israeli assassination of the ayatollah. Regime change must come from within."
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@gammanu95: I agree with this. IMO while Israel is completely justified in its desire to kill the lunatic, the long-term fallout could get bad.
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From all reports I've read, right now fundamentalist militia groups across the Middle East are demoralized and disillusioned with their Iranian sponsors. The last thing we want is to give them a martyr to rally around.
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Instead we should leave Ayatollah Ali Khamenei in place looking very weak and utterly incompetent. The guy in charge always gets the blame when things go bad. Soon enough Iranian leadership will be embroiled in infighting and political maneuvering.
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I don’t think it makes much of a difference at this point if they kill the ayatollah, their proxies have had their leaders killed and there’s not much incentive for them to join in the fight, as they are aware that the Iranians are in the process of getting totally destroyed, it’s not like they’re going to have any more money to spend on what’s left of them.
So kill the murderous motherfucker, nobody will care very much, sure they might make a little noise BFD, it’s not going to be an issue.
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I voted for Trump twice and like and support his domestic policy, but I’m America First, and pretty much America Exclusively. I don’t buy the propaganda that Iran was a direct threat to the U.S. I admire Israel, but 100% against doing this because it’s in their interest and not demonstrably ours. I am also very disappointed because this may tank our economy and put a target on every American and America’s actual interests.
Reagan would have never made this unforced error. Plus Republicans will get tanked in the midterms if the economy isn’t very strong.
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^ Reagan as much as I liked him, made his own unforced error, when the Marine Corps, barracks in Lebanon was bombed, and 200plus marines were killed, he lobbed a few shells from a warship and packed up and left, leaving the Iranians with the impression that they could get away with this type of shit, and in reality until now they have been getting away with all kinds of attacks against us and our allies and we didn’t do very much, so yes this was long overdue payback.
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@Studme: You don't think that it was in America's interest to keep a country that refers to us as the "Great Satan" from having nuclear weapon capabilities? We're definitely going to have to agree to disagree on that one.
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^ Reagan’s smart foreign policy helped hasten the collapse of the Soviet Union, a superpower that was an actual threat to the U.S. He didn’t get us into a Vietnam/Afganistan/Iraq. Certainly, starting a protracted war over a the terrorist attack of Marines in Beirut (again, why?) would not have been in U.S. interests.
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Ted Cruz said that iran had hired hitmen and was actively trying to kill the president for the last 2 years
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RickDugan - I’m not convinced on the actual nuclear threat posed by Iran. I suspect it’s another “weapons of mass destruction” lie.
I don’t care who calls us the great satan, etc. The U.S. government should be doing things in U.S. interests only. Not things that will make us popular or Americans poorer or less safe. The safety of Israel is not why I voted for Trump.
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It’s unfortunate but Ted Cruz like so many professional politicians on both sides of the aisle are bought off by lobbyists for the Industrial Military complex and Israel. Disgusting. As I get older I trust our government less and less.
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@Studme: You need better sources. Unlike the "weapons of mass destruction" nonsense, Iran's uranium enrichment progress was widely followed and understood in a variety of international circles. They were very close to having weapons grade plutonium. Why the hell else do you think they had all those nuclear sites buried so deep underground?.
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I hear you on your isolationist desires. But like it or not, we still have enemies in this world. Just because you'd prefer to ignore them doesn't mean that they will return the favor.
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Ted Cruz admits he morally driven to protect Israel and makes decisions regarding American lives and treasure based on that. The Founding Fathers would have had him hung for that.
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I like Presidents who “dither” when it comes to committing the U.S. Military. If you hear that from right-wing armchair warriors, the President is doing the right thing.
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There's "dithering" and then there's sticking your head in the sand hoping the problem will just go away.
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IMO the timing for this was finally right. Israel had already neutralized Iran's air defenses, so it was low risk to our own people. Other Middle Eastern countries are sick and tied of Iran, which is keeping them out of the fray. And we were at the point where, if we waited much longer, they might have succeeded in achieving their uranium enrichment goals.
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I am beyond thrilled with this outcome.
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I hear what you’re saying, but man let me tell you 247 US Marines and 57 French soldiers were killed and we lobbed a few shells from The Mighty Mo, packed up and called it a day, and you don’t think we needed to make a point. Damn man this is a forever war, and we’ve been fighting with our hands tied behind our backs, and the fucking Iranians just kept attacking us over and over. Buddy, that’s just cowardice, we need to stop them now, every single Middle East problem we’ve faced has tentacles back to Iran. Something needs to change, not a Trump fan but I’m glad he did this, imagine if Reagan had actually done something I have to believe 75% of the malign behavior originating in this region would have been avoided, along with how many people have been killed and maimed directly by Iranian actions.
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It’s a difficult issue. I hope it makes us safer and more prosperous. I’m anti forever wars and pro peace.
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would think we all are
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On one hand, I'm unsettled. Intel was that Iran wasn't close to a bomb and our bunker busters might not be strong enough to take out the threat. I'm also worried that we might get into another "regime change" war in much more hostile terrain than Iraq. Not to mention we can't run up more debt to fund another war; if we don't make big changes and I mean now, we're going to be refinancing at much less pleasant rates.
On the other hand, the aforementioned intel wasn't universal, it seems our bunker busters were sufficient, and it's pissing off all the right people, whether screeching socialists, bed-wetting libs, or Icey and the other anti-American dick suckers here.
Either way, we're in it now. May it all work out for the civilized world and against the mullahs.
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Rick what about turkey and erdogan? He makes many anti israel comments and supposedly even hosts Hamas members in turkey ot something. Also dont they have american nukes stored somewhere in turkey? Theyre not supposed to use them but its based on trust
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Puddy what about guys like tucker carlson, candace owens, steve bannon, nick Fuentes , etc. they all claim to be maga and america first
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@RMD - I normally laugh when the left reflexively calls anyone they don't like a Russian asset, but in Tucker's case, I can't deny it out of hand. Candace Owens has gone full on Jew hater too. Yet another example of the right people being pissed off.
I'm still not sure it was the right move--or if Netanyahu has some serious kompromat on Trump--but a world without a nuclear-armed Shiite apocalyptic death cult is better than one with it.
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By kompromat do you mean something epstein related like what musk mentioned. Also regarding the Shiite death cult do you think Shiitism in general is an issue is therr an extreme version that Iranian leadership ascribe to
I think Iraq, Bahrain and Azerbaijan are majority shiite.. i think azerbaijan is allied with Israel
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Tuckers response to Cruz regarding gushing over moscow and the grocery store there was that he felt it was a tragedy that moscow is nicer than DC…
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^ Kompromat? Any of it. It seems like we took quite a risk on Israel's behalf. Bibi wouldn't have an inside track on Epstein more than anyone else. I think a lot of politicians, business leaders, and entertainers are on that list.
Other nations might be Shiite but not death cults.
Tucker? Yeah, fawning over Moscow when Russians themselves want to get out...
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Puddu but do you think people on that list actually had involvement in pedo type behavior, or were just on one of epsteins flights. Does being on the list alone mean they are corrupt
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Saw Trump make an announcement right after the bombing last night and he said, “God bless Israel” as he wrapped up his bumbling statement. Fuck that. And why do these hack American leaders, including Trump and Biden refer to Netanyahu as “Bibi” in front of the American people. Disgusting. Trump’ lost my support. This the best thing that ever happened to the Dems. Midterms are going to be a bloodbath for Republicans and they earned it.
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Stopping Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons is less about protecting one nation (Israel) and more about preventing a new regional arms race and the exporting of nuclear weapons to terrorists. If Iran made a nuclear weapon, then the Saudis would insist on developing their own, then Iraq, and then and then. Also, the Iranians are known for arming their terror proxies. Imagine if the Houthis shot a nuclear shell into the Red Sea and shut down those shipping lanes. What if Iran had been able to gift a nuclear bomb to Hamas as a doomsday device for the next Israeli operation? there is zero doubt that Iran would have armed as many terror proxies with as much variety of nuclear weapons as they could manufacture. This was long overdue.
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@RMD - Depends who. Someone like Bill Clinton or Bill Gates who were notorious hounds, it wouldn't take much to convince me.
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The only middle eastern country with nukes is israel. The country with a prime minister wanted for war crimes. That has invaded Lebanon Syria and Iran and is engaging in a genocide in Gaza. But theyre a proxy for American policy in the region so....
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===> "Midterms are going to be a bloodbath for Republicans and they earned it."
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They may be, but if so then I doubt that removing Iran's ability to make nukes is going to be the reason.
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They are whack jobs who call us the Great Satan and Israel a "one bomb country (meaning they would only need one nuke to wipe Israel out). Nobody in their right mind wants Iran to have nukes. Now they won't and it didn't cost us a single man.
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^ right - that’s they way the world works. You bomb another country and it doesn’t cost you anything. Delusional.
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^ So are we supposed to behave like scared teenage girls because there may be a response to a military action? Grow some fucking balls already. Keeping lunatics from having nukes is a worthy mission, even if it causes friction in the process.
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But Rick it seems like it is for regime change. The main issue has always been regimes and political alignments. Would israel care about saudi arabia having nukes for instance. Would they care about iran getting them if iran was completely neutral, wasnt involved with any proxy groups etc. and even without nukes there is the issue of ballistic missiles. The issue isnt Iran getting nukes its this specific regime potentially getting nukes. If the regime changes enough maybe israel would even be open to them having nukes?
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Rick Dugan - my mistake, judging by your tough ballsy talk you must be on the front lines in the military. All I’ll say is thank you for your service. What branch? Be safe!
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@Studme: One does not need to be a soldier to be a student of history. And if history has taught us anything, it is that fear-driven attempts at appeasement have never been a deterrent to motivated aggressors.
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This lesson is often lost on those of us who live in civilized societies and enjoy much abundance. We start to assume that everybody thinks like us, values what we value and wants what we want. But sometimes they don't.
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Iran's government is a theocratic dictatorship with very different motivations than our own. They've been sponsoring terrorist activities and destabilizing other Middle Eastern countries for decades and were simply not going to stop. Keeping nuclear weapons out of their hands was imperative, even if it means more conflict in the near term.
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Iran's earth shattering "retaliation" was to launch a handful of missiles towards a US base in Qatar. Of course Iran made sure to tell Qatar in advance so it would have time to clear its airspace and be prepared to intercept the missiles. 😉
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Obviously Iranian leaders had to make a show of doing something to save face with their domestic population. But they also obviously knew that if a single American got hurt that Trump was likely to do something very dramatic.
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The markets, seeing all of this for what it is, have been doing very well today. Stocks are up and oil and treasury yields are down.
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I don't agree with everything that Trump does, but man is it nice to have effective leadership in times like this. The world just got a lot safer with Iran's nuclear ambitions destroyed and its "Axis of Resistance" broken.
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Guess all that winning isnt paying off 😂😂😂
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^ Iran has waged war on the west for nearly 50 years. Israel is offering them a chance to get out with dignity.
We'll see how bad the Shiite death cult wants martyrdom.
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Is that even real news? Iceys news posts are always these meme online posts. Ive seen similar meme posts claiming Beethoven and Cleopatra were black…. Sandra bland was murdered by a group of cops
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Bs. Theyre losing. Iran is a peaceful country. The west is after its oil
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Irans retaliation was a message to Trump, hopefully he can build a strong box, to contain their ambitions, in the meantime Wall Street understood the message that was sent, and the market was resilient to it.
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@Rick what are your thoughts on other countries potentially giving or selling nukes to iran? Apparently russias former president said it could be possible other countries sell them nukes, that Russia wouldn’t. So that could include China, Pakistan, India…
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And iran is in the right for supporting a free Palestine
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25 what was the message they wanted to send? This strike appears much weaker than even what they did after Soleimani was killed
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LOL. Losing? Iran just got busted up. They lost the Shia Crescent. They're losing.
Bunch of IRGC got got today.
Israel is wiping the floor with them.
Wonder if some SEALs are going to pay Khameini a visit.
Palestine is losing too.
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^ Icey you're a moron. Of course Israel wants to end it now. Iran's nuclear program is in shambles, its air defenses are wiped out and its remaining missile silos are both vulnerable and ineffective. Perhaps most important, Iran was shown to the various militias that it was a bitch that couldn't even protect itself, nevermind them.
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Of course if Iran wants to continue, I'm sure that Israel would be happy to clear out its remaining missile silos and maybe level some of its military installations.
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The US admitted to not knowing where irans uranium is. And iran just bombed a us base in Qatar. Israel and the US know rhey cant win
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Rick stick to pretending the hookers you pay aren't hookers.
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Icey, get better sources and come back when you don't sound like an idiot.
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Now that we have neutralized Iran and its various proxies, the next task is to put an end to this Palestinian refugee fiction. It's time for the Middle East to embrace modern realities.
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They just announced a ceasefire. Trump thanked irans leaders for the early notice regarding Qatar airbase.
Regarding iran doing this early notice stuff… why fire the missiles at all? Is their population a bunch of dumdums that dont read the news or cant figure out what happened…
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Lol icey youre presenting the Qatar attack as some sort of win or iran outmaneuvering the US ? 😂 😂 thats a laughable take.
I mean their missiles they fired on israel did do some damage and killed some civilians but the qatar attack did absolutely nothing and they literally informed the us and qatar beforehand. It was literally something done just to simultaneously appease their domestic population while not harming anyone in qatar/any american. How do you call that a win
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The message was simple they’re not going to escalate, and they’re willing to talk. They’re looking for relief, and they know that it’s not going to end well.
My concern is they don’t think in four year increments, they are an old civilization they think in long term they’ve been a country since biblical times, that’s why the box has to contain them and hobble their ambitions.
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They cant verify where the uranium is without physically inspecting those sites, thats valid but that doesnt really count as a win.
I havent looked at all the details regarding the Qatar attack but i read all the missiles were intercepted.
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Attacked with no casualties. no damage, and advance notice. Minor face saving measure. Iran knows they aren't holding a strong hand.
Sounds like there might be a ceasefire as well.
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Trump's instincts on the Middle East have been repeatedly proven correct, as opposed to Obama and Biden who sucked mullah cock and funded the Palestinians (i.e. Hamas).
Iran, unlike much of the Middle East, also remembers a time before the religious dictatorship. They might want to rejoin the civilized world too.
@25 - Jews are a 4,000 year old people as well that hunted Nazis half a century after WW2. Also Black September. They won't forget either.
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They dont have the tools to enrich the uranium further so its a non issue even if they have the 60% uranium
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Im not concerned about the Israeli outlook, I’m more concerned about how the American negotiators think, in our view they seem to see everything in four year increments, from presidential elections and it gives a short term transactional perspective, that’s my concern. Rest assured the Israeli negotiators have a longer time frame, but keep in mind Israel has only been in existence as a state since 1948, and this edition is still young.
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^ I agree on America, but we can bring more force to bear more quickly than anyone. And Israel has only been around since 1948 but that didn't stop them from going after the two examples I gave above. I'm less inclined to think Iran is going to wait 20 years to exact revenge, than that they don't have a hand to play.
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I just read some of the IG memes posted earlier. Yes the attacks were limited and contained but why would it mean they were theater. They were meant to be limited attacks
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We’ll see how this plays out, in the meantime President Trump announced a ceasefire agreement to take effect at approximately 12 midnight.
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Rick you either make shit up or quote the most right wing bs you find then manipulate it to form the intellectual equivalent of you pretending to your hookers aren't hookers and cheating is great for a marriage. You have zero credibility when you open your delusional mouth.
The fact is rhe US and its zionazi proxy don't know where Irans uranium is and Iran is still bombing the zionazis and still may close the straits of hormuz while Trump watches like a castrated pig
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Icey, the stuff is nearly impossible to move when it's enriched that much, especially undetected. At worst they have moved it into tunnels near the reactors, which were also hit and are buried. And even if they manage to retrieve some of it, they have no centrifuges left to further enrich it.
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Like I said, better sources. Iran is already asking Russian to help rebuild its nuclear program.
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And now a ceasefire. Simply wonderful. During Trump 1 we got the Abraham Accords. Now in Trump 2 Iran has finally been neutralized as a serious threat. Again, there's much I don't like about Trump, but what he has achieved for a lasting peace in the Middle East is far beyond what anyone thought was realistically possible.
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No one agreed to a ceasefire. Theyre bombing each other. Trump is pulling shit out of his ass like you pretending cheating on a wife with hookers is just adult stuff
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Rick the more you talk the more delusional you sound
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Hey Icey, how does @rickdugan's dick and balls taste!?
Lulz
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They did, its a 24 hour phased ceasefire
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===> "They did, its a 24 hour phased ceasefire"
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It will get extended. Iran's air defenses are fucked - Israel can bomb them at will now if they act up. Reports indicate that Israel had several targets that they still wanted to hit, but they'll settle for what they got now that the nuclear program is devastated. Trump did them (and the rest of the world) a huge solid by using those 30,000 pounder bunker busters - Israel will come to heel and do what they're told now. Besides, this is costing Israel several hundred million per day, which is a shit ton of money for a small nation of 10 million people.
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^ Israel’s GDP is about $575 Billion in U. S. Dollars that makes them the 13th largest economy in the world, with a per capita income of approximately $60K.
Pretty awesome for such a small country.
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20fag lying as usual
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Israel lost 😂😂😂🤡💩💩
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@25: Agreed 100% that Israel is doing awesome for such a tiny country. But even still their annual budget is only 200 billion. Spending hundreds of millions of dollars every single day will be a burden for them.
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icee
Too bad you don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about.
You really need to shut the fuck up and go away you stupid fucking troll.
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20fag youre the most muted idiot on here for a reason
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^Fuck off troll
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Iran confirms ceasefire with Israel
“The courage and sacrifice” of the Iranian military “forced the enemy into regret and accepting defeat and the unilateral cessation of its aggression,”
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^ No, jackhole, 25 is speaking truth, Israel is wiping the floor with Iran despite only 10% as many people, you're posting dumb lib memes out of context.
We can't tell if you're a troll or just have a 70 IQ like you seem to, but we respond to you the same.
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^^ LOL!!! Courage and sacrifice? Maybe sacrifice, Israel and America went into their airspace and kicked them in their tiny atrophied nuts with impunity.
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@PT
Icee is just a little fucking cunt, and a troll, founder should have kept him out of here, he's been banned for plagiarism, he's been banned for lying, he's been banned four times, he even threatened to beat me up and never showed up. He/She creates absolutely no value to anything he posts. He's like chewing gum on the bottom of your shoe.
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The US is afraid of escalation snd the straits of hormuz being closed.
Israel wouldn't be desperate for a ceasefire if it was winning.
If youre on a winning team you dont go from plans of regime change to begging for a ceasefire 🤡💩
But youre too fucking stupid to get it. Keep quoting far right warmonger shit
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I can't believe anyone took the bait on this one. 😆
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The ceasefire got off to a rocky start, but has been holding now for several hours. This is thanks once again to Trump, who intervened when Israel was on the precipice of dropping more bombs over a few random missiles that were likely not sanctioned by Iranian leadership to begin with. Clearly Israel was looking for an excuse to keep wiping out missile silos and other military assets while Iran is helpless.
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We may be on the verge of a lasting peace in the Middle East. Who would have ever thought that this was possible? I never thought that I would see it in my lifetime.
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Rickdugan youre a fucking idiot sucking trumps baby dick. You went from regime change and all out war. Praising trump. To supporting peace. In one day. Basically dick ride whatever Trump says. Keep pretending hookers arent hookers though 🤡💩
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Magatards are triggered.
They went from cheering on ww3 and regime change to calling trump a peacemaker for wagging his baby dick between his legs and retreating 🤡💩
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Trump says Iran and Israel came to him requesting peace, but Iran claims trump came to them begging for a ceasefire.
Regarding the ceasefire violation, israel claimed two iranian missiles were launched, trump claimed it was one, but both admitted they/it didnt hit anything
What lead to the ceasefire talks so soon after iran attacked the Qatar base? Some sources say it was because iran gave a weak response, only firing 12 missiles to indicate they want to deesalate. But was that the only thing or was Qatar or someone else like Putin complaining to Trump behind the scenes
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Icedy supporting the Iranians make me actually hate them both even more. The world would be a better place without them.
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I dont get it why would he unfollow and block trump over that..?
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Oh noes, not an unfollow on Instagram!!!
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He was Trump's useful idiot for regime change. It shows how petty and stupid both are
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^ And you're just a pothead retard. I love watching Trump drop a deuce all over your face.
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Basically the zionazis and trump lost
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Those posts could all be true but none of them mean they lost lol.
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Meanwhile, thanks to Trump's robust border enforcement, we're catching Iranian terrorists that came over Biden's open border.
Man, all this winning is making my dick hard.
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Now, if we could only deport Icee back to whatever 3rd world shithole country he snuck in from
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Icey claims to be 47% Sephardic Jewish
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Unlike magatards im American. Odds are high my family has been here longer than yours
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youve been here longer so yoire more of an american? Thats a bigoted way to define being american. You sound like a white supremacist
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^We meant legally.
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Fuck, where's the liberal tears meme when I need it. Icey's tears are delicious!
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This is why I've never liked Trump.It doesn't really matter if the nuclear sites were destroyed, what matters is the president is willing to do what needed to be done, destroyed or not it was a successful action, showing the Iranians if they aren't ready to negotiate in good faith, this is an actual demonstration of what we are capable of and they(Iran) can't really do a fucking thing about it. Where Mr. Trump fails over and again is his bluster and exaggeration is totally unnecessary.
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How much better off would we be if he had just simply stated that we carried out a mission last night to show our resolve and capabilities, no embarrassment needed over the fact that very deeply buried facilities, were only damaged not destroyed, with the clear implication that if the Iranians don't cooperate we can do this again, with even more power and there is not going to be anything that Iran can do to stop us. Wouldn't that have been better then what's going on right now, how an op that was actually successful, can be spun as a failure, purely based on the big fat mouth of our loudmouth braggart of a President.
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So here you have it this is not an example of Trump Derangement Syndrome, it is more of a proof of how deranged Mr. Trump really is.
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@25: Even if that preliminary intel regarding Fordow is true, which we won't really know for some days or weeks to come, the point is that it is not currently operational. If they make the poor choice to try to open it up again and get it running, we have plenty of options to deal with it. It's not like they can put another mountain on top of it. I sincerely doubt the Israelis are going to just sit back and kick their feet up if Iran starts trying to excavate and repair the site.
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But I do agree on the bluster front. It's a personality flaw of Trump's that I've always found to be quite grating and its not helping his cause outside of his core supporters.
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That was my point, this guy can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory by just opening his mouth.
We've had other presidents that were effective, and didn't destroy their own accomplishments, think about Truman, and he said very little, even though he dropped the bomb on Japan ended the war and probably saved thousands of American lives by doing so, he was effective, how about Reagan, he was great at saying very little, nothing more memorable than "tear down this wall" and a few years later the Soviet Union distengrated, even Obama, came on television made a very short sober speech nothing loud or crazy, told us they executed a raid and killed bin Laden, but Trump over and over keeps stepping in it and making us look like jerks even though he did a great service. Someone needs to exert some control over this man.
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^ ^^ I had this conversation elsewhere. Trump's bombast and lack of discipline is part of what endears him to his fans (though it kept my heart in my throat for his 45 term). We're not getting one part of him without the other.
Still, it's an improvement over Obama and Biden who got Iran into its current position.
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Rick do you think they could attempt to rebuild but also have some security pact with russia or china. If they have some agreement with russia/china then israel or the US would likely not attack them? And if they dont have that agreement, there would be no point to rebuilding things
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As a further update, several competing reports are now indicating that Fordow was in fact destroyed. This includes a statement issued by the Israel Atomic Energy Commission which deemed Fordow to be "inoperable" and that the strikes set Iran's nuclear program back by several years.
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All of which makes sense. The U.S. dropped a whopping 12 30,000 lb bunker busters on that site alone.
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One other important point is that, even if they found a way to get their remaining 60% uranium to 90% with their now non-existent centrifuges, we also completely wiped out the only special conversion facility in Iran able to finish the weaponization process.
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All this adds up to Iran's nuclear program being done for the foreseeable future.
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I think that the news agencies who rushed to report this single leaked assessment, with no attempt to obtain corroborating information, are going to be very embarrassed when this is all said and done.
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US strikes did not destroy Iran nuclear programme, says intelligence assessment
Rickdugan delusioning as usual
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^ That old and now seemingly inaccurate news. The Israel Atomic Energy Commission is saying otherwise and they're much better positioned to make that assessment. They also have no reason to lie since by doing so they would be giving away their justification for a future strike on Fordow.
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^ Didn't realize Icey took Steve Bannon at his word. He's sitting around like this in a cloud of pot smoke trolling us before his shift at the gas station starts this afternoon.
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^ I think we are putting too much emphasis on battle damage assessments, the point we should be making is if the Iranians don't behave the way we need them to, there is nothing to stop us from going back and doing it better.
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Rick go pretend hookers arent hookers.
Puddy tat truth isnt trolling. Thats your problem that it triggers you
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^ You're pretending to take Steve Bannon at his word now. Lulz.
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Go white knight bitches at desire with skibitch 😂😂😂🤡
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^ Go get your GED, tard bait.
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Trump has a meltdown over 'failed' strikes on Iran
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Quit with the images already. TUSCL is looking more like Facebook by the day. An AI image is not worth a thousand words.
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More reports coming in:
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Israel’s military chief of staff has said Iran’s nuclear program suffered “systemic” damage and was set back years during the 12-day conflict between the nations.
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“According to the assessment of senior officials in the IDF (Israel Defense Forces) Intelligence Directorate, the damage to the nuclear program is not a pinpoint strike but a systemic one – the cumulative achievement allows us to determine that Iran’s nuclear project sustained severe, broad, and deep damage and has been set back by years,” Eyal Zamir said Wednesday.
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He added that Israel had completed its goal of removing what he called an “immediate existential threat” from Iran.
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Again, Israel has no reason to lie. In fact it would hurt them because it would make it harder for them to justify follow-up strikes on the same sites.
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Rickdugan aka baghdad bob
Western states lied about Iran’s nuclear program
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The Central Intelligence Agency reports that the strikes “severely damaged” Iran’s nuclear program.
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The Israeli Atomic Energy Commission—which gets no benefit from fooling itself or us as to Iran’s actual capability—assessed that the combined Israeli and U.S. strikes “set back Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years.”
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International Atomic Energy Agency Director General Rafael Grossi said Iran’s centrifuges are “no longer operational,” having been “completely destroyed.”
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The Institute for Science and International Security, which closely tracks the Iranian program, issued a detailed assessment, saying the attack “effectively destroyed” Iran’s program by doing “massive damage” to above- and below-ground facilities.
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Now to be fair, intelligence remains more divided over the fate of Iran’s uranium stockpile. Some Israeli officials are saying that the highly enriched version is “buried beneath rubble at Isfahan and Fordow.” Other entities suggest it might have been moved before the attacks. But without the ability to further enrich it or the Isfahan conversion facility needed to finish weaponization, it won't do them much good.
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Baghdad Bob aka rickdugan cant put that crack pipe down
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Neither party signed anything. Its not a cease fire. They just stopped bombing.
Also he was nominated before thart
Keep lying baghdad bob
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^ Stick to sucking cock with that mouth honey. At least then you'd be useful. 😉
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He was nominated by multiple politicians at different times. One of those nominations specifically mentioned Israel-Iran.
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