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GDP was negative in the first quarter

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dustyjMinnesota

Congrats to Donald Trump for a negative GDP report for the first quarter of this year. Once again Trump is failing with our economy in every way possible.

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To the OP: You seem like the type of sports fan that overreacts when the opposing team scores a touchdown in the first minute of the first quarter. You start bloviating and screaming that your team sucks, you turn off the game and take your rage out on some poor woman, only to find out when you calm down that your team won 45-14. Wah, Trump said the little girl, wah Trump, wah.

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It's amazing how much damage he's been able to do to our economy and our democracy in just 100 days.

And it's even more astounding that after all we've been through in these 100 days, people still suck this con-man's orange dick.

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@dustyj So, when jobs, GDP & wages increase, and when taxes are reduced as well as federal spending, will you post how great things are going? I'll answer for you, "NOPE!" When Iran starts to really collapse and their nuke program is shattered, will you thank Israel & Trump? My guess is "NOPE!" When the Russian invasion ends, and America moves in to mine rare earth minerals, which will be provided military protection, will you thank Trump? "Nope!" When the DOW hits 50K and NASDAQ hits 30K and S&P 500 crests over 7,000, will you thank Trump? Take a guess. And, you have never even mentioned the number of illegals crossing is down over 99% or that violent illegal gangsters are being sent to prison Hell, not a peep. Going through detox like a heroin addict is really hard, then after, the addicted feels so much better.

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twentyfive

We have a winner
He’s halfway there, one more negative quarter and it’s a full blown recession

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I hate to say it, but I think Skibum has a point: the GDP number was dominated by a huge increase in imports by businesses trying to get in front of the Liberation Day tariffs. The safest prediction about next quarter is that it will be different.

Mogul, on the other hand, is arguing entirely from made-up facts.

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Lets be fair, there has never anyone on earth who brags more about how wonderful they are, or a person who blames others more when things go wrong. So when he falls, yes people will pile on. So today be blames Biden for negative GDP, what else would we expect from him

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^ skibum hasn’t got a point, if you want to use his sports metaphor it’s like the first quarter of the game is over, the score is 21 to 0, and each of the three touchdowns scored by the other team, was scored because our quarterback threw an interception at the 2 yard line.

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It’s gonna be a loooong game

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Is the GDP shrinking due to the tariffs?

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twentyfive

^ Yep 100%

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The biggest problem with American politics

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dustyj

It will just be a coincidence that all of the economic data while Trump is president will be horrible. Total coincidence.

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dustyj

The tariffs on China are really about to hit us. Who thinks that the next quarter's GDP will be positive? Anyone?

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Liberation day was actually not in the first quarter, so yes the second Q will be worse

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This isn’t an us versus them issue that ski-dummies want you to make it out to be. It’s all about a designed power grab by the liar in thief to manipulate by cussing mass confusion so nobody can pinpoint it on him when shit goes south, and assets can be scooped up more cheaply. With fiat currencies embedded inflation will forever be an issue and appreciable assets are the only way to keep pace with cost of living. This is solely to break the middle class and lower income earners, the very people our idiot has lighted the American people into voting for him. Republican are spineless sycophants who are too afraid to put up with his shit, because all the ones who did in his first term have left, and now only the wolf is watching over the flock. Mid terms can’t come fast enough. Please vote Republican, like the Liz Cheney and Jeff Flake, those that have a backbone and keep their party in check. The Republican Party is in a crisis.

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It's still too early to tell what the long term effects of Trump will be. He brings unpredictability to the market which has caused huge fluctuations, but nothing that can't be undone. A year from now is when the Republican party will know if they're in real trouble, or looking good for the midterm election.

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It wouldn't be too hard to come up with a comprehensive tariff policy that Trump could announce with Bernie Sanders, AOC, and a few Democrat governors standing next to him for the photo op. But it would likely be tariffs that would kick in after months or years of delay, maybe in phases, to give the private sector time to adapt.

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dustyj, Ronjax, and twentyfive - the TUSCL liberal cope squad has their quorum. The leftists want Trump to fail. They want to magnify and fret over every little fluctuation in the market, any hint of impropriety, whatever misplaced punctuation they can find so they can scream "Depression! Chaos! Treason!" Everyone outside of their echo chamber recognizes the infantile behavior and self-serving motivations behind it.

As a patriot, I am willing to suffer some short-term inconvenience in exchange for long-term security and prosperity. Trump is trying to get as much done as early as he can, so that we can begin enjoying the prosperity and security as soon as we can. In particular, he hopes his efforts yield such results for a sufficiently long time before the midterms, so that the GOP can gain more seats in congress and state governments. The last thing this country needs is another two years of made-up impeachments wasting our time and tax dollars. The best thing would be to have a congress and a judiciary which works together to ensure that the good and legal stuff gets done, and the dumb and unconstitutional stuff gets sent to Congress for new laws to be passed. Deporting illegal aliens and pro-terrorism activists is good and legal. Cancelling birthright citizenship is unconstitutional and needs Congress to get to work on another amendment. Buying Greenland or offering statehood to those idiots to our north is dumb (but also not serious, even though the media would like it to be).

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@mogul1985 your comment here is hilarious to me. when jobs, GDP & wages increase,... and other things I've been conned into believing might happen.

In reality: GDP is down, Markets are down 10% or more, and we have no jobs data, but it won't be good when we get it. Internationally, we've isolated ourselves from our allies and emboldened our adversaries.

Trump is a fucking disaster. And all of this was predictable. Anyone with a few credits of college Econ could've told you the inflationary impacts of tariffs and mass deportations, and the market value these things would destroy.

If he some how pulls a reverses course and turns into a reasonable president that doesn't destroy our economy, I'll be happy to sing a different tune. As it stands in reality, it's going to take years like to rebuild what he's destroyed in just a 100 days.

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Puddy with the great insults. Once again you'd never in a million years have the nuts to say that to my face as you're actually a giant vagina in real life.

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dustyj

Things aren't going to get better with Trump. They are going to get worse. Absolutely everything is moving in the wrong direction. Other countries are doing deals with each other and going around the United States. There is no way there will be any positive economic outlooks on anything until Trump is gone.

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^^ Moronic comment, even for you internet tough guy.

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dustyj

Whatever. Say it to my face wimp.

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dustyj

And you'd say that to my face? Zero chance. When was the last time you competed athletically at anything?

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dustyj

Again when was the last time you actually competed against another human being in anything athletically. 30 years maybe?

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dustyj

You could play me in basketball so you could see just how out of your league you are athletically. You don't compete at anything ever do you?

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dustyj

You are buddy. You say insults that you would never ever say to my face and you know it.

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You have to take his drug dealing ass with a tiny rock in of crack

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dustyj

What do you compete at again? That's right. Nothing!

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dustyj

And your a fucking wimp

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We could play basketball up to 5. You would immediately see that you are nowhere close to me athletically and that I compete all the time and you never ever compete. There wouldn't be any fight.

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The last multiple times you have initiated insults against me. I'm simply pointing out the very obvious that you would never have the balls to say that to my face and you know it. I actually enjoy competing. You don't or you would.

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DustyJ the "athlete" is probably the under 14 girls badminton champion. "Wanna fight" said the internet tough guy roflmao. Tell you what Mr. Atlhlete, why don't you and I meet at Jackson Hole, take the tram to the top and jump into Corbett's? Rambo at Crested Butte and skip the 20 foot drop in? Too scary tough guy? Lace em up and skate blue line to blue line with me, 50 times; first one to 50 is the stud. Play 18? Besides being an internet tough guy what's your handicap?

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^ hey you threatening me?? I'm local ya know lol.

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skibum609

This quarter of negative GDP is the first time its happened in almost 3 years lol. All this proves is that the legacy media needs to be disbanded.

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dustyj

You like to play the bully role on here. I point out the obvious that you wouldn't say shit in real life obviously. I've never said anything about your dick energy or whatever. Don't care. I'm a competitor. Your not. Simple enough.

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skibum609

^^You may compete, but not in a spelling bee. The word is "you're" as in "you are", not "your". Simple enough.

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You're right. I didn't proofread before sending. I still don't believe that Trump won. He has the lowest approval rating of any president ever at 100 days and there are huge protests against him. Between Trump, Musk and Russia if they could cheat they 100% would. I never said porn and strip clubs would be banned. It was on the agenda. How bad do things have to get with Trump before you admit that you were wrong for supporting him?

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Speaking of violence what do you think of 20 ICE agents breaking into the home of 4 legal citizens in Oklahoma, 3 of them kids and stealing all of their belongings at gunpoint? What do you think of DOGE stealing all of our personal data? Millions of illegals are not ruining every city. That's completely wrong and racist as fuck. The vast majority of them are hard working people. They commit crimes at lower rates than American citizens do. The vast majority of mass shooters are white and many are influenced by the hate on the right.

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Dustyj is right 💯

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Actually I'm in Minneapolis and violent crime has been going down considerably. I walk for miles in downtown Minneapolis because I like to walk. I've never personally witnessed any crime. Some of the biggest problems are to do huge inequality. Democrats want to raise the minimum wage and while Republicans don't want to raise the minimum wage or get rid of it entirely. Republicans are now trying to pass huge tax cuts for the super rich while cutting Medicaid and other things that lower income people rely on. It's hard to think that Republicans would improve inner cities by making the rich richer and the poor poorer which is exactly what they are proposing to do. It makes people more desperate when they feel like the system is rigged against them.

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Puddy tat thinks tranny illegals are making amerikkka unsafe 😂😂😂😂😂🤡💩💩💩 i

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Maybe the illegal immigrants do commit crimes at lower rates than americans do, but if you look at the crime stats for the last 30 years, black and latino groups are committing the majority of the violent crimes, and committing crimes disproportionately to their population size. Whites may be the majority of mass shooters, but mass shooters are only a small percentage of total murders.

Culture heavily influences things. Black americans are probably more likely to commit crimes than black immigrants. Latinos and whites, its harder to say whether the native group or immigrant groups are more violent

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Minimum wage laws dont make sense. Should we have maximum wage laws too, to protect employers and make sure they arent paying too high a salary?

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Trump's first 100 days have been a complete disaster

Stock market tanked
Big drop in 401k accounts and net worth
Prices going up due to tariffs AKA taxes
Damaged relationships with our allies
Damaging US tourism
Appeasing a communist dictator and war criminal
Brought shame upon the United States
Slashing medical research
Slashing foreign aid and soft power
Weaponized the government
Brazen extortion of law firms
Attacks on higher education
Attacks on free speech
Attacks on the judicial system
220 lawsuits
Endless lies

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dustyj

Let's not forget firing people in charge of nuclear weapons and other things that are critically important. Getting rid consumer protections, raising bank fees and so many things that help only the rich and fuck everyone else.

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dustyj

I love Tesler!

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dustyj has outed himself as an election denier. By the left's own logic, he is an enemy of democracy and an ally to Putin.

wld4testes is a known enemy of freedom and representative government, and a leftist idealogue who will happily parrot any nonsense fed to him by David Hogg

Trump's first 100 days have been a complete disaster -
Stock market tanked - this is untrue
Big drop in 401k accounts and net worth - this is also untrue, and the consumer price index has shown increased buying power for American households in Trumps's first 100 days
Prices going up due to tariffs AKA taxes - another bald-faced lie
Damaged relationships with our allies - our "allies" who are not living up to their treaty obligations and have been taking advantage of us economically? Our European allies who are arresting and prosecuting their own citizens for praying in their homes? The increasing totalitarian crackdown on free speech in Canada and Europe? Wld4testes supports arresting people for "wrongthink", but I have to questions whether those countries are really allies
Damaging US tourism - big fucking deal
Appeasing a communist dictator and war criminal - who? Not China, not Venezeala, not Cuba, and not DPRK. Is there another communist country I forgot? I know you mean Putin, but this is another lie. This is administration has been pushing for peace and has signed a vitally important minerals deal with Ukraine. There is no appeasement. You probably mean Israel. Sorry, pal, but Nentanyahu defending his people and smashing Hamas is not a war crime. Fuck the ICC.
Brought shame upon the United States - "shame. shame. shame." Idiot liberals thing GOT is real life. There is no shame in strength and self-reliance. The opposite is true. You want shame? How about a doddering 80-year old man who has to be babysat by the Italian PM?
Slashing medical research - By removing mutagenic and carcinogenic additives from the food supply? By initiating the largest ever study into side effects of childhood inoculations? Research into transgendering in lab rats and macaques is hardly improving health and longevity in the American taxpaying populace.
Slashing foreign aid and soft power - clearly a USAID fan. Stopping wasteful spending in the midst of a deficit spending crisis is the smart thing to do
Weaponized the government - against terrorists and illegal aliens? Fuck yes. They government is finally acknowledging a crisis of criminals invading our country and sending them all out. Biden and Obama weaponized that same government against taxpaying Americans who spoke out against them, Trump is using the government against foreign enemies and terror allies
Brazen extortion of law firms- a bad-faced lie. These law firms used the TS clearances for partisan political attacks to undermine government and influence elections.
Attacks on higher education -Lie. The government is fighting terror, discrimination, and suppression of free speech on campus.
Attacks on free speech - lol. BY deporting people who lied on their Visa and green card applications? That's not free speech, that's sedition.
Attacks on the judicial system - How? What attacks? Speaking out against judicial overreach? So pro-hamas demonstrators get free speech and people pushing back against legislating from the bench don't? Democrats have intiated many more attacks on the courts, right Schumer?
220 lawsuits - The left did this. Weaponized lawfare. You are a shameless liar.
Endless lies from the left.

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The economy must be really shitty when more people are buying homes, fueled by job growth and falling interest rates.
msn.com

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Icey

Youre delusional.

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dustyj

What do we think of 4 year old legal citizens with cancer being reported by ICE?

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dustyj

I didn't even read it. I could care less what a stupid fucking Trump supporter thinks.

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Icey

Your question is moronic. Why should he answer? What if scenarios are irrelevant to politics

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Icey

Youre deflecting from the facts dustyj states by asking what if scenarios. That shows your stupidity.

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4 year old "legal citizen' with cancer. If the law breaking parent is illegal, then so is the offspring. Good example why birthright citizenship needs to stop. If the parent played by the rules then ok. Otherwise ship them all out.

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@mogul1985 you are hilarious. The orange turd has damaged the American brand and it’ll take a while to assess how badly.

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chunkychicano

Icey you claim it was okay for anthony to stab someone in response to being shoved, but that i cant even punch someone in response to being shoved. Why the difference of opinion

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Icey

Puddytat you support Trump because of your weird obsession with and fear of trannies. And being a corporate fan boy.
The point of challenging you in basketball is like telling you to go out and get some fresh air instead of obsessing over weird shit

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Puddytat be like "heres my delusional word salad"

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Icey

Accept his challenge and Ill be the referee . Then we can all go to Sizzler
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It means nothing even if one person wins the fight or basketball game, lol. Even according to the racial stereotypes and hierarchy that some people ascribe to… the smartest races are also horrible at basketball or fighting lol.

Also its hypocritical to ask for a minimum wage for some people, while also asking for a maximum wage (rent control) on landlords.

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Adding to the "shame upon the US" category, Trump posted an AI image of himself as the Pope
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On the other hand, the economy is still adding jobs (for now). The pattern so far is that Trump is snapped out of his delusions of competence when hard consequences appear, somewhat limiting the damage. It seems clear that thousands of illegal immigrants will be brutalized when they don't deserve it. This will be cheered on by most, since it has no major macroeconomic consequence. If millions are brutalized as planned, that will e a different story.

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Puddytat can't play basketball

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wld4tatas

Just another flaming embarrassment

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twentyfive

^Pistols on Main Street at noon

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Icey

Midget toss.

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Icey

Puddytat id avoiding this thread. He knows he couldnt toss a midget. Couldnt even sin a cage fight against 25

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^ actually you’re quite a pussy yourself, you challenged me then you didn’t even show up.
Go fuck yourself icee, leave me out of your pitiful, petty, instigations. Stupid little bitch.

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Icey

Not too long ago I was saving 25 from you elder abusing him. Probably try to sell him drugs

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Icey

And that shit was temporary and im not on drugs unlike....

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Fuck off icee, you’re just a little bitch pimp. Saving me from elder abuse, delusional little cunt.

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25 puddytat was giving you a virtual beatdown and elder abusing you. Confusing you. I stepped in to stop it.

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