No, but I'm not surprised. 95% of the Cubans I've met in clubs seemed to have little interest in learning the English language. Clearly they are resistant for a reason. Fear of feeling assimilated makes a lot of sense.
Which of course is also why they usually hang out together in groups and only talk to dudes just long enough to ask for a dance. But it works for them since pretty much all of these girls are giving it up. They exist to service guys who are willing to pay up for quick and dirty condom sex in shitty club VIP/LD areas with girls who they can't communicate with. Not really my cup of tea, but I'm sure that plenty of guys find this appealing.
For guys who have experience with Russian girls working in northeast clubs, I've heard them compared to Cubanas more than once, but they could not be more different. Sure both tend to work in clubs in groups and have each others' backs, but that's where the similarity ends. The Russian girls work hard to learn English quickly and learn countless different ways to make money in the clubs, including finding flush SDs. Many of them are very gifted at seduction when they think a guy is worth the effort, while the Cubans are good for one thing only.
There are two Russian dancers that I know of here in Louisville. One of them is exactly how Rick describes them, using her considerable charms to play the long game. The other acts more like a Cuban. If you ain't ready to fuck for a buck, you're history.
I don't get the Cubana hate.
Yeah, they crowd out variety but they're pretty hot and varied in their own right.
Yeah, they're pretty down to business, but usually so am I, and when I've wanted conversations with them (in a mixture of Spanish and English), I've had good ones.
I've been ripped off or hard-sold by more Brazilians than any other nationality.
I should also note I can understand Cubana Spanish pretty well. Dominican or Puerto Rican though, forget it.
Puddy, hate is a strong word, at least for me. "Mildly annoying" probably applies more. They are very easy to shoo off, so it's no skin off my teeth.
To anyone who likes their quick strike sales approach and either can communicate with them or just don't care that you can't, I sincerely wish you all power in your chosen entertainment format. It's just not my thing.
^ Some, on the board and in PMs, have expressed hate.
All the best in whomever you like.
There's too much telling people "the right way to club" around here.
Shes not in Cuba. And being Cuban doesn't mean screaming in Spanish as fast as you can.
Most of these girls were hookers in Cuba. Its about volume to them. A trick is just a number and a dollar.
As far as communicating with them. Even if you speak Spanish. Theyd rather give a blowjob than a conversation. Not much personality there.
Some Cuban girls have a really cute way of flirting. I just cant get over the way they scream. Cubans talking is like cats screeching. They dont have much personality other than a hustle mindset. And i don't find them that attractive.
If I am in S. Fla. I enjoy Cubans. Everywhere else I ignore them. Not a fan of Russians and except for one dancer, Brazilians are 100% no for me. I have enough Brazilian clients, to find the idea of giving them money idiotic.
Cubans are proud of their difficult dialect and often a little bit linguistically chauvanist. I totally get the joke. I speak decent cuban and have a good time with then, but I agree they tend to be more business oriented
Dannyboy3, thats bs. its like saying hoodrats or rednecks are proud of their dialects. Most of what you get here are Cubas version of that. Its difficult to understand because they cant speak proper Cuban Spanish
Not clear to me what is meant by "business oriented". She doesn't role play being my girlfriend or anything. But, it only creeps me out when strippers do that crap. She's conscious of the fact that her ability to make the best money in sex work has a limited shelf life, and she's focused on accumulating as big a nest egg as possible. I like that. I get attached enough to my favs that it matters to me that they have good lives when they're done with dancing.
I agree, Cubanas in S.Fla are the best. Here in Chicago, though limited (for now), they are best to be avoided. I also agree that Cubanas are annoying because 99% will ghost you if you say no. In S.Fla, that percentage drops to 95%. I did find that doing an extra is the best way to be on your way to being a regular.
As for english speaking, I find most are willing to try. Maybe, it's because I start the conversation in Spanish.
Maybe our Cubans are different down here, but we've got a wide variety. There are some who are resistant to assimilation and kinda fit the description of mechanical, quick n dirty, talk as little and service as many as possible. There are also some who more closely resemble how Rick describes the Russians. There are almost infinite graduations and permutations of attributes in between.
I think you see a lot less representation of the 2nd class in our reviews because those girls don't fuck with tourists and they tend to not stay around as long, cause they find those SD's or shack up with/marry some guy with money.
The vast majority of the Cuban strippers I engage with are that 2nd end of the spectrum. When I say shit like that, they are generally appreciative. When I speak Spanish to them, they'll often ask me to speak English slowly and clearly and to correct them when they mispronounce shit so they can learn English. I've never seen the kind of response the OP mentioned.
Not a lot of Russians in places I've clubbed, but back in the day, one Russian bitch at Club Fantasies tried to bully my very naive friend into going to the ATM, claiming he owed her extra.
Some of them have a european look to them- and thats what allows them to successfully charge more than any other latina group. They also, dont care for american pimp culture, so even the ones who have boyfriend pimps, will often still do GFE with clients. And while they charge more than other latinas they still often charge less than what an american born dancer would ask for.
Low level pimps like icey hate on them because they effectively provide better looks, better service, at a lower price, compared to an average american born dancer.
I have no problem with it, that strippers want to start making money with me quickly after approaching me, and leave quickly once they are done making money (move on to a PL ready to spend). That's just taking work seriously, as people should. When you are 40+, you're supposed to encourage good habits in the younguns (even younger adults), or at least not encourage bad ones.
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last commentTell her if she doesn't want to get deported she needs to speak English and be more American. Otherwise she can GTFO.
No, but I'm not surprised. 95% of the Cubans I've met in clubs seemed to have little interest in learning the English language. Clearly they are resistant for a reason. Fear of feeling assimilated makes a lot of sense.
Which of course is also why they usually hang out together in groups and only talk to dudes just long enough to ask for a dance. But it works for them since pretty much all of these girls are giving it up. They exist to service guys who are willing to pay up for quick and dirty condom sex in shitty club VIP/LD areas with girls who they can't communicate with. Not really my cup of tea, but I'm sure that plenty of guys find this appealing.
For guys who have experience with Russian girls working in northeast clubs, I've heard them compared to Cubanas more than once, but they could not be more different. Sure both tend to work in clubs in groups and have each others' backs, but that's where the similarity ends. The Russian girls work hard to learn English quickly and learn countless different ways to make money in the clubs, including finding flush SDs. Many of them are very gifted at seduction when they think a guy is worth the effort, while the Cubans are good for one thing only.
There are two Russian dancers that I know of here in Louisville. One of them is exactly how Rick describes them, using her considerable charms to play the long game. The other acts more like a Cuban. If you ain't ready to fuck for a buck, you're history.
I don't get the Cubana hate.
Yeah, they crowd out variety but they're pretty hot and varied in their own right.
Yeah, they're pretty down to business, but usually so am I, and when I've wanted conversations with them (in a mixture of Spanish and English), I've had good ones.
I've been ripped off or hard-sold by more Brazilians than any other nationality.
I should also note I can understand Cubana Spanish pretty well. Dominican or Puerto Rican though, forget it.
I've had less problems with Cubans than russians.
Puddy, hate is a strong word, at least for me. "Mildly annoying" probably applies more. They are very easy to shoo off, so it's no skin off my teeth.
To anyone who likes their quick strike sales approach and either can communicate with them or just don't care that you can't, I sincerely wish you all power in your chosen entertainment format. It's just not my thing.
^ Some, on the board and in PMs, have expressed hate.
All the best in whomever you like.
There's too much telling people "the right way to club" around here.
Shes not in Cuba. And being Cuban doesn't mean screaming in Spanish as fast as you can.
Most of these girls were hookers in Cuba. Its about volume to them. A trick is just a number and a dollar.
As far as communicating with them. Even if you speak Spanish. Theyd rather give a blowjob than a conversation. Not much personality there.
Some Cuban girls have a really cute way of flirting. I just cant get over the way they scream. Cubans talking is like cats screeching. They dont have much personality other than a hustle mindset. And i don't find them that attractive.
If I am in S. Fla. I enjoy Cubans. Everywhere else I ignore them. Not a fan of Russians and except for one dancer, Brazilians are 100% no for me. I have enough Brazilian clients, to find the idea of giving them money idiotic.
She just cracks me up. She wasn't being serious.
Cubans are proud of their difficult dialect and often a little bit linguistically chauvanist. I totally get the joke. I speak decent cuban and have a good time with then, but I agree they tend to be more business oriented
Dannyboy3, thats bs. its like saying hoodrats or rednecks are proud of their dialects. Most of what you get here are Cubas version of that. Its difficult to understand because they cant speak proper Cuban Spanish
Not clear to me what is meant by "business oriented". She doesn't role play being my girlfriend or anything. But, it only creeps me out when strippers do that crap. She's conscious of the fact that her ability to make the best money in sex work has a limited shelf life, and she's focused on accumulating as big a nest egg as possible. I like that. I get attached enough to my favs that it matters to me that they have good lives when they're done with dancing.
I agree, Cubanas in S.Fla are the best. Here in Chicago, though limited (for now), they are best to be avoided. I also agree that Cubanas are annoying because 99% will ghost you if you say no. In S.Fla, that percentage drops to 95%. I did find that doing an extra is the best way to be on your way to being a regular.
As for english speaking, I find most are willing to try. Maybe, it's because I start the conversation in Spanish.
Maybe our Cubans are different down here, but we've got a wide variety. There are some who are resistant to assimilation and kinda fit the description of mechanical, quick n dirty, talk as little and service as many as possible. There are also some who more closely resemble how Rick describes the Russians. There are almost infinite graduations and permutations of attributes in between.
I think you see a lot less representation of the 2nd class in our reviews because those girls don't fuck with tourists and they tend to not stay around as long, cause they find those SD's or shack up with/marry some guy with money.
The vast majority of the Cuban strippers I engage with are that 2nd end of the spectrum. When I say shit like that, they are generally appreciative. When I speak Spanish to them, they'll often ask me to speak English slowly and clearly and to correct them when they mispronounce shit so they can learn English. I've never seen the kind of response the OP mentioned.
Not a lot of Russians in places I've clubbed, but back in the day, one Russian bitch at Club Fantasies tried to bully my very naive friend into going to the ATM, claiming he owed her extra.
Some of them have a european look to them- and thats what allows them to successfully charge more than any other latina group. They also, dont care for american pimp culture, so even the ones who have boyfriend pimps, will often still do GFE with clients. And while they charge more than other latinas they still often charge less than what an american born dancer would ask for.
Low level pimps like icey hate on them because they effectively provide better looks, better service, at a lower price, compared to an average american born dancer.
I have no problem with it, that strippers want to start making money with me quickly after approaching me, and leave quickly once they are done making money (move on to a PL ready to spend). That's just taking work seriously, as people should. When you are 40+, you're supposed to encourage good habits in the younguns (even younger adults), or at least not encourage bad ones.
Cuban uber drivers ive had really hate on cuban strippers. Saying in cuba they were fucking for $5 now getting gps a d greedy af