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OTC Safety Issues

magicrat
North Carolina
Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:33 PM
As I get older I seem to be more cognizant of the down side of taking a stranger back to your hotel room. Have any of you had the experience of getting ripped off or, worse, have a bf show up with the take out stripper?

I love the potential take out aspect of the strip club scene, although it has seldom happened, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to get beat up and robbed. Since it seems to be a rule in most places that the dancer is not supposed to leave with the customer, one has to rely on the stripper actually showing up at your room, which gives her plenty of chances to "prepare" something for you. Or am I just being a paranoid old man here?

8 comments

  • FONDL
    16 years ago
    My biggest concern would be that she'd someday decide to contact my wife, which is one of the reasons I've never engaged in any OTC event other than a strictly social one. I've never been willing to give a potentially unstable person that much control over my future. I'm surprised that anyone does.
  • njscfan
    16 years ago
    I do not think you are being completely paranoid, but I do think the risks are small. In 25 years of seeing various kinds of sex workers, I had a bad experience once. The girl's "boyfriend" showed up where we were and got really psycho. I don't think it was planned, I just think he showed up, but I'll never know for sure. I left unscathed and unrobbed, but it could have certainly turned out differently. Clearly the underlying problem was that hardcore drugs were involved, which can make people act nutty. Incidentally, I had plenty of "warning signs" that things weren't right, but proceeded ahead anyway very much against my better judgment.

    Notwithstanding that one bad experience, I have taken loads of extraordinary risks, and yet have had nothing bad happen to me -- seeing girls in seemingly dangerous neighborhoods or venues, picking them up right off the street, having sex in public or semi-public settings, etc. Despite all that, except for that one time, nothing bad has happened, in dozens and dozens of experiences.

    Partly, obviously, it is just dumb luck. Partly, I put it down to being sensitive to the vibe I pick up. If something seems askew, I stay away. But if she seems alright and is just looking to make some $$$, I'll go for it even if it seems like it should be risky. If I feel like I can trust a girl, I'm usually right. Indeed, the one time I felt I couldn't trust her, I was right about that too (I just didn't listen to my instincts).

    Part of my good luck, I think, is that the safety odds are stacked in the customer's favor. The sex workers, after all, make money by being sex workers. If they go around threatening, robbing or beating up their customers, obviously, word will get out, and no one will see them. It seems to me there is no angle for a stripper to make her living by arranging set ups with her boyfriend to beat up her customers. Word would get out, and she would get fired. On the other hand, there are guys out there who are seeing sex workers for all sorts of strange reasons, and some of them will engage in violence, or rob the sex worker, etc. I think the girls have a much greater, and more legitimate fear of violence than we do. I know of several girls who have told me about being robbed, beat up, having knives or guns pointed at them, etc. I have never met a guy (even in the virtual world) who has actually be robbed or beaten. (Of course I have heard of guys who have been ripped off by crummy or non-existent service, but that's a different story.)

    Finally, I think there are sensible precautions you can take to minimize the risk. I admit I do not always follow these rules (as noted, I have taken a lot of chances over the years), but when I am thinking clearly I try to follow them. For strippers, it's a good idea to get to know the girl before seeing her OTC. That means seeing her on more than one occasion in the club. I like to know that she has friends in the club, i.e., other girls who will talk about her outside her presence in a positive way. It is a warning sign to me if the girl has no friends in the club. I also always want to get the girl's cell phone number, and her actual name. If I have her cell #, I can usually trace it to see who is the owner. If I can verify her name, I can do a full background check, and I have actually done that on some girls when I am planning to see them for an extended period of time. I am not worried so much about violence, but rather about attempts at extortion. If I see a girl for any period of time, she will invariably be able to figure out my actual name no matter what I do, and thus figure out everything about me (I am "googleable"). So I don't even try to hide my identity; but as a result, I like to have an even playing field and know their identity. This way I can stay away from anyone who had a serious criminal record. And if I am concerned about meeting a girl in a hotel room, then I will ask to meet her elsewhere (e.g., a bar or diner), and then go to the hotel from there.

    For regular escorts, again, when I am thinking sensibly, I will not see anyone who is not TER reviewed. This is not so much for safety reasons, as it is because I do not want to be the victim of a rip off in terms of poor service.

    In sum, I think that with common sense you can avoid most risks of violence. Personally, I am more concerned about the risks of disease, pregnancy, extortion and the possibility of less than optimal service.
  • parodyman-->
    16 years ago
    magicrat,

    Man up dude. If the world is to big and scary for you maybe you should stay home. Or you could buy a gun. The best calibers have a "4" in them.
  • shadowcat
    16 years ago
    Nothing bad has ever happened to me with a stripper OTC. I will say that I have had some bad experiences as far as the sex went. But I am vigilant and selective.
  • BobbyI
    16 years ago
    Been ripped off once.

    I think you would be surprised at the number of strippers who have pimps. Needless to say you don't want to mess with a pimp (well, maybe you do, but I am sure those who do know who they are).

    Now most pimps are smart enough to realize that they want repeat business so are not going to interfere. (Unless you have no value to them as a repeat for whatever reason and they no it (made that mistake once), in which case they are completely without conscience (duh!): expect anything.)

    But, OTOH, w.o. the danger it won't be as much fun, right?
  • casualguy
    16 years ago
    I used to screen dancers before I met up with them later. If I got the wrong vibe or I didn't trust her, I wouldn't agree to meet up later. If the issue is to rob me, they could do that anytime. However a dancer has better ways to take your money and you won't be able to call it a crime if she did dances for it. That leaves sex as the most dangerous safety issue. To sum up, your condom may be your best defense.
    Then again if you like to live life on the edge go without one. Just don't be surprised if you get an extra gift.

    I did have one dancer bring up a safety issue. She thought I was a bit crazy like her though. She asked talking aloud "do you ever worry about a group of girls ganging up on you and taking advantage of you?" Then she answered her own question (maybe she saw me smiling), and she said "you'd probably enjoy it."
  • DandyDan
    16 years ago
    Of the times I have done it, I was really only worried once, my second OTC experience, because the girl was calling someone (her pimp? her dealer? the police? someone else entirely?) before we started and she was not calm about it. I got the deed done and hightailed it out of there in a flash. The other times, it went about as well as it could go, before considering the sex itself.
  • SuperDude
    16 years ago
    Go the her place at your peril. There is always a boyfriend waiting to rip your wallet, watch or car.
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