Probably about a 4 at this point and a 6 when I was in my prime. I was always pretty average looking but I have put on too much weight and my hair is getting more gray by the day.
Now 1. Maybe a woman who was as old and fat as I am would give me a 2 or 3, for limited grayness and hair loss. When I was 25 and jogging every day, maybe a 6.
I would say 7.7 in my prime, and perhaps 5.5 or so now. It really doesnāt matter as much as many guys think. More money or status makes far more of a difference.
Iād say a 6, I think thatās fair. Above average, but nothing too crazy. I think I dress decently, my hair and beard look good, Iām in shape but on the slimmer side. I have tattoos and piercings, you either like that or you donāt. Some women would say Iām a 4, others might think Iām a 7. Iāve dated two women who I would rate 8s
I dont know. Its too subjective. Ive tried those AI rating apps and always got an 8 or 9. I think I look ok. If i ever think i look bad ill get botox or something. I've had women tell me they want to fuck me and others tell me to get the fuck away. But overall im happy with what i attract. I think thats the key. Rate yourself by how happy you are with what you attract
If anyone is rating themselves 7 or above Iād suggest youāre lying. Why are you going to strip clubs. You should be able to get all the Civi pussy you want
Icey thatās completely ridiculous. The problem with your post is your faulty assumption that women date or fuck people based on physical attraction. If you go out anywhere in public youāll see countless examples of the woman being much more attractive than the guy. It sounds like youve figured out a way to self stroke your ego into oblivion by doing sugaring relationships with strippers, then convincing yourself theyāre only with you for your looks
@motorhead attractive men can still go to strip clubs. Itās not just about getting pussy, itās about the experience, itās about having fun in bizarro world. One can get laid āfor realā and still have an insatiable appetite. Or one can be going through a dry spell for whatever reason and substitute civilians with sex workers. A lot of men are married but dissatisfied in the bedroom. Also, how a man looks is not indicative of the play he gets, as it is for women. Women have different criteria than men when it comes to hooking up. They tend to care about more than just looks. The ability to get pussy/how attractive a guy is and the desire to club are not necessarily correlated, but I can see how they would reasonably seem inversely proportional
^ given that concept why did Hugh Jackman use hookers? 6.5 zup til about 30. Now is tougher because I really don't think any old guy can be attractive compared to the total pool, but against my age group I'd be much higher because I am fit with hair, and like other ethnic greaseballs I have very minimal wrinkles. Just some crows feet. On a good day I could lie and chop 10+ years off my age. I don't have to look good, I'm married lol.
A stripper who engages in p4p isnt a hooker. By that logic, 60%+ of civvie women are hookers. Someone who looks for rich guys to date or marry, is also a hooker then. And on the contrary, most men probably would be willing to bang strippers they found attractive, and if theyre already entering a club and paying for dances, they would also be willing to pay for more than dances. Only a minority of guys going to strip clubs, are doing so because they want strictly lapdances because anything more is cheating. As far as strip club customers not offering money for p4p, it could be legal concerns or other reasons, but most of the time if theyre paying for dances they would be willing to pay at least a bit more for more than dances.
As far as Hugh Jackman and celebrities paying escorts and etc it has to do with many reasons. They could be paying for the discretion, the convenience, also keep in mind time is moneyā¦ for an average guy $500 isnāt something they can casually blow. But to someone making millions a year, it makes more sense to just get an escort than to spend time going out to find a girl, plus any random girl they find could try to blackmail them, try to film the encounter, try to get pregnant.
There are other things that make a lot more sense doing if you get rich enoughā¦ like hiring a live in chef. If your time is valuable enough that you can make millions per year, you actually save money by hiring a live in chef instead of spending hours of your own time daily cooking. Same with uber, uber eats.
The celebrities do also bang their fan girls from time to time, you hear about it sometimes, but theyll also use escorts because even if they can find a hot girl to bang for free the logistics involved in that would take hours of time. Even going through social media DMs, theyre getting dms from tons of people.
I'm Grandpa. Once in a while I even get called Daddy. for my age I look okay. and taller than average. and yes... I do have a bit of a belly. I'll give me a 6.
Where I am a 10 is on the nerd scale. So, every once in a great while, I get the hot guy experience with a chick who's a 10 on the sapiophile scale. The problem is, it's not always easy to see the difference between a chick who is truly down for hookups/FWB, and one who is going for the p dub. I my heart is not hard enough to just shrug off a failed p dub attempt. I would guess that's a reason hot guys might see sex workers as the better option sometimes.
Traditionally, men approach women iceyā¦ so none of what you said is such a big problem. Youre not really supposed to wait for a woman to come to you.
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last commentToday, more like a charitable 6. (73 yo overweight soft body)
Now, depends. I'm chubby but much better with people. Perhaps a 4 or 5
It really doesnāt matter as much as many guys think. More money or status makes far more of a difference.
thatās good to know. Iām like a 1.5 so I have to go to strip clubs
Out in public I'd hate to think about it
Now? Still a 7, in my age group (70), most of my hair, still stand straight.
Like elmer said though, 8 or better in the club.
And on the contrary, most men probably would be willing to bang strippers they found attractive, and if theyre already entering a club and paying for dances, they would also be willing to pay for more than dances.
Only a minority of guys going to strip clubs, are doing so because they want strictly lapdances because anything more is cheating.
As far as strip club customers not offering money for p4p, it could be legal concerns or other reasons, but most of the time if theyre paying for dances they would be willing to pay at least a bit more for more than dances.
There are other things that make a lot more sense doing if you get rich enoughā¦ like hiring a live in chef. If your time is valuable enough that you can make millions per year, you actually save money by hiring a live in chef instead of spending hours of your own time daily cooking. Same with uber, uber eats.
The celebrities do also bang their fan girls from time to time, you hear about it sometimes, but theyll also use escorts because even if they can find a hot girl to bang for free the logistics involved in that would take hours of time. Even going through social media DMs, theyre getting dms from tons of people.