Dancers that also list themselves on escort sites ?
jusflor
Texas
So I had this interesting discovery a few months ago. This dancer I know from a couple of the Houston clubs came up listing her services on one of the independent escort sites. That’s not the shocking part, what I was curious about was the difference in price quotes from when I asked her in the club how much for FS (~400 for hr) vs what she quoted over text in reply to her add (~200). I feel cheated!!! I wanted to set something up but not sure if I should say that I saw her add and want the lower rate ?
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It's also possible that the difference in price has something to do with including the cost of a VIP room in the club, erc., versus hosting guys in her home as an escort.
I'll also gently point out that sometimes dancers will give the "I really don't want to fuck you" price when they're face-to-face with some customers (or they're just not in the mood).
In any case, don't mention you seeing the escort ad or texting with her. It's going to make you sound like kind of a bitch and a stalker at the same time. Instead, just make a counter offer. Or, find another dancer.
I once saw a stripper in her room for $500, she had originally asked for more but dropped when I politely declined. The day after I saw her she sent me a text quoting $250 for another session. I didn’t feel cheated, she was just doing what they all do.
And I'll add in another reason for price variance, need. It's been discussed many times on here before, but prices often go down in times of desperation. A girl who faces eviction if she doesn't come up with rent is more apt to cut a deal to make a sale than one who just paid rent. It's not just rent, it's any expense. A BF needs bail, a car needs a new tire, etc. She may have a normal ITC price when things are good, but something came up and she needed to earn a quick buck and did so by placing the ad.
Like others, I wouldn't feel cheated. I also wouldn't ask for escort rates while she's in the club. That just feels shady. I don't have a lot of experience with that though, so take my 2 cents for what its worth. I usually avoid the strippers who advertise on escort sites.
The idea of fair pricing can seem like a good one. But, in practice, it has lead to failed economic systems like Mercantilism and Socialism. In a market system, the price is what the buyer and seller agree to for a particular exchange, period. There are many reasons why your counter-party in a sale might not want you to know their reasoning in negotiating with you. So you'll just drive yourself nuts if you obsess about whether they are being smart or dumb. Some here may want to trivialize the feelings of sex workers. But nobody's feelings are trivial to themselves, even if they may have some recognition that their feelings don't make sense. Few if any sex workers don't have strong (and generally negative) emotional responses to the work. But they hid that from us in order to keep customers. So best to reign in the snark when you feel frustrated when negotiating with her. It will usually just bounce off, but you never know if you're catching her in moment when her defenses are worn down.
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Additionally, her escort site display name may be different than her dancer name and her real name.
Finally, nobody should be stalking anyone in the first place. Instead of looking for ways to pretend not to be a stalker, or ways to hide being a stalker, just dont be a stalker.
But note that term gets thrown around too loosely by people online. Social media stalking refers to going through someones social media profiles. It wouldn’t include being on an escort site and coming across a listing of a dancer. Actual stalking would be something like looking up someones social media profile to find their whereabouts, then showing up to a shop they frequent, their workplace, their home, etc. or something like following someone home.
And once again, if you look up dancer profiles on instagram, and their profile states which club they work at, and you then see them at their club, its not stalking. People advertise all sorts of businesses and jobs on instagram. Is it stalking if you find a small cookie shop on instagram then visit them?
If you saw her ad on an escort site, you can just mention it to her. As others mentioned, if shes charging $400 in the club its likely because of all the club fees, and payouts to the managers djs bouncers etc - its a very corrupt and greedy business model to begin with- so you would actually be doing the right thing ethically by moving things outside the club and paying her directly.
Managers, djs and bouncers dont deserve to make extra money just because a dancer does extras Or because a dancer performs a lapdance. I don’t think its related to extras- there’s definitely clubs where dancers will pay out tips to bouncers, djs, managers, even if they didnt do extras. In some clubs, it basically becomes an unspoken rule in order to get good treatment from management. It’s actually bad for business overall- because managers will basically not fire dishonest or bad dancers as long as they keep paying them tips. The club owner likely wouldnt want managers being paid tips from the dancers. It just doesnt make good sense.
And the DJ tipping is supposedly so the DJ will put on songs the dancer prefers when she is on stage. Its not really something that should be required, and any competent DJ should be putting on appropriate music for all dancers.
If a club wanted to get around this, they could do something like provide private rooms for $50 per hour, and not charge anything else to the customer and not take anything from the dancer. So the customer would just need to pay $50 for the room and whatever is negotiated with the dancer. At that point, since its only a $50 fee, most customers and dancers arent going to to bother trying to arrange something OTC just to save $50. Its just not worth the time and energy, and a hotel
Room will cost more as well.
But most clubs tend to be too greedy, and charge far more than $50 and keep a significant portion of the dancers earnings, which encourages dancers and customers to move things OTC.
Furthermore, some people are not very smart. I've come across multiple situations where dancers have their personal social media pages (with real names) linked to their dancer profiles. Dancers do, and should, use fake names and personas when dancing, as there are wacky people in the world. Yet, they then get sloppy with broadcasting personal information online.
You do realize that because they are relying on sexual services they’re likely a target and even a friendly jurisdiction can change and become hostile.
25, what do you mean by paying bribes. Paying bribes to who?
My ATF charged me the same (“whatever you feel like paying”). Need to get her back in the game.