How to Start a FIAT
san_jose_guy
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Our younger members need to hear this because they have never driven carbureted cars, much less ones where you have control of the choke.
So you sit down and check the mirrors and fasten you seat belt.
Push the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold it there. That gives it one priming squirt, and that should be enough. It also makes it much easier to pull the choke knob out, as the choke has a smooth fast idle cam.
So pull the choke out about as much as you think best for the temperature. For really cold, maybe 50% to 75%.
Hold the clutch down and back off on the accelerator to about 10% and start cranking. Once it catches you should get oil pressure right away. When you change the oil always prime the filter so that you will get oil pressure right away. Idiot lights should be out and any ammeter or volt meter should show electricals working.
You are keeping it running with the accelerator pedal. Push the choke all the way in.
On cars with cold start injectors, these only run for about 2 seconds. That should be the maximum for the choke. Choke stuck closed can destroy an engine in 20min, that can wash oil off the cylinder walls, contaminate the oil, cause vapors to be in the crank case and explode.
So aim for 1 second on choke, 2 seconds max.
Now, you want it to idle without your foot on the accelerator. So start pulling the throttle knob out until that takes over from the accelerator. Now you can move your foot from the accelerator to the brake. As you drive along you will be pushing this back in.
Now look all around, put it in gear, release emergency brake and you are off.
FIATs are a real blast to drive as well as being a pride to own and a pleasure to work on and maintain.
SJG
So you sit down and check the mirrors and fasten you seat belt.
Push the accelerator pedal to the floor and hold it there. That gives it one priming squirt, and that should be enough. It also makes it much easier to pull the choke knob out, as the choke has a smooth fast idle cam.
So pull the choke out about as much as you think best for the temperature. For really cold, maybe 50% to 75%.
Hold the clutch down and back off on the accelerator to about 10% and start cranking. Once it catches you should get oil pressure right away. When you change the oil always prime the filter so that you will get oil pressure right away. Idiot lights should be out and any ammeter or volt meter should show electricals working.
You are keeping it running with the accelerator pedal. Push the choke all the way in.
On cars with cold start injectors, these only run for about 2 seconds. That should be the maximum for the choke. Choke stuck closed can destroy an engine in 20min, that can wash oil off the cylinder walls, contaminate the oil, cause vapors to be in the crank case and explode.
So aim for 1 second on choke, 2 seconds max.
Now, you want it to idle without your foot on the accelerator. So start pulling the throttle knob out until that takes over from the accelerator. Now you can move your foot from the accelerator to the brake. As you drive along you will be pushing this back in.
Now look all around, put it in gear, release emergency brake and you are off.
FIATs are a real blast to drive as well as being a pride to own and a pleasure to work on and maintain.
SJG
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SJG
Do you think Cesar Chavez might give up his holiday so that you would have an extra day a year to work on your thought processing?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of lettuce?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of grapes?
Did you ever have any wine made from grapes squished by Cesar's feet?
Did his feet remind you of younger hat dancing boys? *after all they're Mexican too*
Did you need a bathhouse towel boy to dry you off after your excitement of pondering Cesar's feet?
SJG
SJG
Do you think Cesar Chavez might give up his holiday so that you would have an extra day a year to work on your thought processing?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of lettuce?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of grapes?
Did you ever have any wine made from grapes squished by Cesar's feet?
Did his feet remind you of younger hat dancing boys? *after all they're Mexican too*
Did you need a bathhouse towel boy to dry you off after your excitement of pondering Cesar's feet?
Did you also harbor an ass to mouth fetish regarding Cesar?
Did you know that Cesar was Catholic?
Does that enter into your obsession over him?
They went to overhead cam long before the American firms did. And 124 and 131 were dual overhead cam.
And 128 was an early FWD transverse, years before VW Rabbit.
They did around 80 or 81 come out with an updated version, Strada. Higher roof and higher seats, like a Rabbit, and a longer stroke engine with higher gearing.
But I have to say that I never saw one on the road, only in the deal show room. And as they were pulling out they did not have enough dealerships for parts.
And then as they have tried to come back with that Nuevo FIAT 500 they did not have enough dealerships. I liked the car, especially the Abarth. I wish they were still bringing it in.
SJG
Nibble? You mean that they take uninterested small bites unlike your gorging yourself on bathhouse ass to satisfy your ass to mouth obsession?
I suppose that's interesting to some but not really here on TUSCL?
Isn't there a bathhouse forum somewhere for you to indulge your obsessive fetish?
SJG
850 is small. I think if you wanted a Sedan you would look to something bigger, and with a bigger engine.
Sport Coupe is real neat, but I have never seen one on the road, just moored in someone's front yard.
Originally 850 was 850 cc's. But then they enlarged it, maybe 926cc's.
Always tail end engine, like VW beetle. But always independent suspension and water cooled. 4 gears. And the choke and throttle knob.
SJG
SJG
Do you think Cesar Chavez might give up his holiday so that you would have an extra day a year to work on your thought processing?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of lettuce?
What's your thoughts on the nutritional value of grapes?
Did you ever have any wine made from grapes squished by Cesar's feet?
Did his feet remind you of younger hat dancing boys? *after all they're Mexican too*
Did you need a bathhouse towel boy to dry you off after your excitement of pondering Cesar's feet?
Did you also harbor an ass to mouth fetish regarding Cesar?
Did you know that Cesar was Catholic?
Does that enter into your obsession over him?
Fiat 124 and 131 used this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panhard_ro…
https://www.midwest-bayless.com/fiat-131…
https://autofilippos.com/product/fiat-13…
SJG
Probably have to reset spark plug gaps.
SJG
SPAMMING MORON!
In that case the voltage is lower during starting so you have to make sure the spark plug gaps have not worn to big.
SJG
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Abarth : Fiat-based cars / Andrea & David Sparrow. (2005)
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SJG
Wounter Hanegraaff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdLTDzFo…
SPAMMING MORON!
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This is the FIAT 850 I like best. But never seen one on the road.
Sport Coupe
https://www.secret-classics.com/en/fiat-…
SJG
And today, not much parts availability.
One guy I know has preserved an X1/9. He had to wait some months to get a new heater core from Italy.
But FIAT's still are just really neat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_X1/9#…
SJG
FIAT 850, 1477 lbs for saloon (sedan)
Might be a 1500 lbs min weight for us highways.
FIAT 600, rear engine water cooled. Was it I2?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_600
FIAT 500 classic
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500
City Car, meaning not for highway. Was it Air Cooled I2?
Originally had suicide doors.
FIAT 126, rear engine, 23hp
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_126
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJbQ-MDV…
Robert Tallini, performance parts for Nuevo FIAT 500 Abarth
https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/thread…
Our owner, Rob Tallini, has over 30 years of racing experience and applies his extensive knowledge to the engineering of parts that only help the performance of your car, rather than hinder or fail to improve.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU5Y6fog…
https://www.driverdb.com/drivers/robert-…
Forum:
https://www.fiat500owners.com/threads/ac…
SJG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Uk-qkmC…
Shows choke and fast idle controls below dashboard.
SJG
1967 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato - Jay Leno's Garage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFKxEcQ3…
SJG
talked about FIAT 1100 above. THis had the same mechanicals, but I guess 1200cc
3 different bodies, and I like them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_1200
not much availability of manuals.
I am sure though that they would have drum brakes all around, live axle rear, and independent from suspension. Not sure about rack an pinion steering.
SJG
Ain't No Mountain High Enough
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABfQuZqq…
Almost nothing left of the company now though.
Pride to own and to work on.
SJG
Two of Five Ever Built: 1958 Fiat 600 Multipla Mirafiori - Jay Leno’s Garage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Gvwe-Q…
FIAT 600 is water cooled.
SJG
Leno says that the 600cc engines do 38hp.
As I remember the first VW Bettles brought into the US had 1200 cc's and they did 25hp.
SJG
Every time i see this thread from the forum page I see your first sentence...
"Our younger members need to hear this because they have never driven carbureted cars"
My honest serious question is why do younger members that are here to read and learn about strip clubs need to hear about carbureted fiats?
Never personally looked at any FIAT older or with smaller engine than FIAT 850.
FIAT was the General Motors of Italy, as Leno explains.
SJG
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Back to normal..............
These vintage FIATs have neither. Manual choke, and fast idle, and then of course the accelerator pump on the carb.
Fast idle and choke knobs right at the right of the steering column:
https://petrolicious.com/articles/father…
FIAT 600, 600 cc's, Inline 4, water cooled, 1290 lbs kerb weight.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_600
Seems very similar to the FIAT 850 which came along. Looks the same in the engine compartment.
FIAT 850 TC Abarth
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_600#/…
SJG
So now the classic Fiat 500, rear engine rear wheel drive
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_500
1957 to 1975, 1100 lbs!
launched as successor to 500 "Topolino"
Station wagon version has the same engine, but laid on its side. ( suggestive of VW suitcase engine for Type 3 )
Yeah, two cylinders and 13 hp
Doesn't say if it is air cooled or water cooled.
Yeah, 13hp or 18kw
https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/l…
Yeah, this is definitely air cooled I2
https://www.google.com/search?q=classic+…
SJG
Dance Little Sister (2005 Digital Remaster)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXaYPc_9…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCq1Vhh…
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Dance Little Sister (2005 Digital Remaster)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXaYPc_9…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRCq1Vhh…
Stray Cat Blues
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij3PD8Ji…
Tire size 185/55/15.
Now, you can get lower profile tires, and have bigger rims.
This outside diameter is about like a alot of compact cars were in the 80's. But after they minimum size got bigger.
When they first started selling the Nuevo 500's, it looked to me like they had the same power train as the Dodge and Plymouth Neon. I wish they still made those. BUt even then I felt that the power train was out of date, only SOHC and maybe 3 or 4 automatic transmission speeds. Not keeping up with Japan.
So selling that a decade later in the FIAT was way out of date.
Maybe they went to a Mazda Power train, up to date, but could you get parts, and they dropped from 6 speeds automatic and manual, to 5 speeds. Not oday.
I want them to keep making stuff, a lot more stuff, but they have to have cars that are competitive so that they sell.
SJG