Biden calling Putin a war criminal is short sighted. How can we negotiate with Putin in the future. He's not going away anytime soon and Russia is a major nuclear power.
Plus, the point could be made it's the pot calling the kettle black.
Biden calling Putin a war criminal is short sighted. How can we negotiate with Putin in the future. He's not going away anytime soon and Russia is a major nuclear power.
Plus, the point could be made it's the pot calling the kettle black.
Or, as Sun Tzu put it, you always leave your opponent a golden bridge over which they can retreat. Once you label someone a war criminal, the only option is a fight to the death.
An American president calling anyone a war criminal is hypocritical. How many died under Bidens watch due to American imperialist ventures?
Biden wants Russians in the streets overthrowing the gov. Whats America's reaction to such protests and revolutionary acts?
It's not "whataboutism" it's pointing out hypocrisy and the idiocy of American exceptionalism.
Starting ww3 to keep zelensky in power isn't worth it.
We just got out of a 20 year war in afghanistan that we started....and lost. We're arming the saudi war in Yemen. Arming ukraine. Still have a declared "war on terrorism "... and pressing domestic problems.
Had the US cared about Ukraine it would have pushed Zelensky into a peace deal before the invasion. Instead Biden chose to arm him to the teeth and give the false belief that the US would come to his rescue if worse came to worse. Now Biden is against negotiations and peace talks and Ukraine is being used as a.proxy by the US.
Biden and the pro establishment media are beating war drums to take attention away from all of our domestic failures and the breakdown of society.
@Tetradon: "moral clarity" ? Holy shit! Half the population of Afghanistan is supposedly starving because of the shit we pulled over there. How about the hundreds of thousands of deaths caused over false WMD accusations. The list goes on and on and on.
Any country has a right to call us out on our past transgressions when we start acting self righteous. As they should.
Oh yea, small GDP or not, Russia has the ability to destroy the world which does make them a super power. Anyone thinking otherwise is an idiot.
It's not our fight. Fear and war mongering are distractions from domestic problems the government refuses to tackle. The billions of dollars thrown at zelensky to arm his regime are an obscenity. It's billions of dollars the American public will never see but will pay the cost of.
Unless you believe in imperialism. We have no stake in foreign wars.
Funny thing is tetraplop opposes political violence in the US. He also opp antifa and blm. Meanwhile he supports violent revolts in other countries and supports wars.
You support the violent overthrow of putin but not violence in the US. You support foreign aid to fund a war but not money to rebuild our infrastructure. You support Ukraine which has the skinhead azov batallion in its military. While opposing civil rights movements at home
I'm not advocating doing nothing. Arm them, feed them etc...sure.
We should also give them an on off ramp to deescalate. Destroying an economy and using irreversible rhetoric is a questionable strategy.
Any thought that this shit has anything to do with morals is ridiculous.
It's all about money and retaining power. Always had been and always will be.
Tetraplop you can't understand the aspirations of conquered people's like Mexican americans...Chicago's. Enslaved people like African Americans or the victims of genocide like native Americans. But have crocodile tears for Ukraine. Why not hate Poland? It ruled more of it than Russia historically. But hating Russia is the trend now . Idiot
The war in ukraine is irrelevant to the average American. People are tired of distractions. The censorship behind the narrative for the war is proof America doesn't want war as a distraction from our own problems
The average American couldn't care less what putin does. It doesn't impact us. Bidens actions impact us.
Support the struggle at home. Antifa and blm are freedom fighters. More so than the azov batallion.
Tetraplop so by your logic stfu about Ukraine. History is full of conquerors and conquered.
History is full of groups conquering one another. In fact that's the definition of history.
Do stfu about Ukraine.
Chicanos like African Americans and native Americans are still suffering from acts of genocide and imperialism. Their causes are more pressing than foreign wars.
Fear mongering isn't based on facts. Believing a war should expand based on what if scenarios is inane.
You'd rather fan foreign wars than help the oppressed in the US. You call antifa and blm criminals while saying we should look past neonazi brigades jn the Ukrainian military.
Tetraplop you're a bigot. Saying African Americans are better off coz their ancestors were enslaved. Saying Chicanos are better off coz their ancestors were conquered and expropriated and subjected to segregation.
Blm and antifa are criminals while neonazis in Ukraine are freedom fighters?
And what if scenarios justify ww3 but Americans should stfu a follow the status quo.
All your points are moot.
African Americans choose to be here? They have no choice. Their ancestors suffered slavery and cultural genocide. And opposing civil rights organizations while making excuses for neonazis is sick.
Ancestral grudges? You're the one living a mccarthyist wet dream on a strip club site.
You showed your true colors
There is no ww3 unless biden starts it
Saying we have to invade russia and start ww 3 coz if we don't russia will 8nvade yhe world and start it is asinine propaganda only the mentally weak fall for
Tetraplop you're saying we have to invade russia and start ww3 before russia starts ww3. That's inane.
You have crocodile tears for Ukraine and making excuses for neonazis while demonizing American Civil rights groups.
You're saying minorities should leave the US if they don't like it and call protestors criminals while saying Russians should overthrow their gov.
You have zero credibility
Putin will be declared a war criminal, it's not a matter of if only when. Let's hope soon. When the Russian people finally learn the truth of the atrocities in Ukraine, I expect they will feel great anger and shame.
The problem with Biden and other Western leaders is they expect Putin, as leader of Russia, to be a reasonable person.
He's not.
Biden saying that no American soldier would be on the ground in Ukraine was a mistake. He should have continually answer "we're still evaluating that".
At this point, Putin doesn't care about loosing 20,000 conscripts. Too many Russians actually believe his bullshit that Ukraine is full of Nazi's and he's freeing them. Respect for the Russian military is gone, not coming back if they withdraw.
There's just no real personal risk in it for Putin until someone marches into the Kremlin, whether that's Ukraine, NATO or the Russian people. He can't loose an election, WTF does he care how angry the Russian people are? His internal security services are actually bigger than the army that invaded Ukraine, and probably more ruthless...
Why not educate yourselves on the war crimes of American officials and call for their heads? An overthrow of the imperialist system? Or do you support it? Do you think un peacekeepers should have entered Washington when we invaded Yugoslavia Haiti Panama Iraq Afghanistan Vietnam Somalia Libya Syria etc????
It's different with the US right? 🤡🤡🤡
Russia isn't starting ww3. Youre saying it might do so. That's the biggest whataboutism on here lulz. So we have to invade it first. That's inane. Americans don't support that.
You're saying we need to invade russia and start ww3 to prevent russia from starting it 🤡
You have crocodile tears for Ukraine and making excuses for neonazis while demonizing American Civil rights groups.
You're saying minorities should leave the US if they don't like it and call protestors criminals while saying Russians should overthrow their gov.
You have zero credibility
But you'll still keep replying and go full sjg on the thread.
^said SJG.
Anyone can read what you said.
But keep going full retard
Icey said "You have zero credibility"
Well, we're titty bar fans firing off armchair assessments about a national security crisis in Eastern Europe. Technically, the baseline of credibility for everyone here is zero.
Kissinger was a right wing war criminal.
I’m joining the boycott against Subway & Nestles, they can stay in Russia , they won’t get one cent of my business.
Biden calling Putin a war criminal is the pot calling a spade a spade. Putin is attacking purely civilian targets. Putin is attacking known public shelters simply to terrorize and murder the civilian population. By violating the protocols of the Geneva Conventions, that is a war crime. More disturbing are the reports that Ukrainian civilians are being captured and forced into Russian concentration camps.
Either of those, especially if the latter is true, gives justification for the UN to intervene militarily. However, we already know that China controls most of the UN apparatchik and China is eagerly extending a line of unrepayable credit and debt hoarsing to Russia, so China will not allow the UN to do the right thing or anything that might compromise the 100 year China plan for global hegemony.
Putin is a murderous war criminal and President Biden has rallied the entire community of nations in opposing him. Putin is going to have to go.
SJG
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But this is Putin's war of choice!
SJG
I think Putin meant to say Biden is a "doofus or imbecile" but something got lost in translation.