Degree of Debauchery in HK

Love the debauchery at HK. Have done all the things you mentioned, also licked a gal's pussy for $5 during the cream show. It went against my better judgment. Got caught in the moment. She was so hot.
Also nearly came in pants when a gal (Laura, an HK veteran) was stroking my cock during a ficha.

I have said this before. Even without the Hotel Coscadas, Hong Kong ranks as one of the best strip clubs I have even been in. Cascadas just brings in the ultimate in convenience for OTC activity to that strip club.

This list seems a bit tame compared to things I have seen/done. Saw a mex guy eat out a girls ass during a stage show. He needed a “clean up on aisle 69” after that. I once grope a full to completion bj upstairs when it wasn’t too busy, cost me $5 to get Albert to stay away and another $40 to the girl.

We should be able to make it so that it is this good in the US.

SJG

Lol @623. That's quite a story. I don't think it has happened a lot in the club publicly. Also, not even what @Japrufrock (the proponent of the FRMOS) did is a common occurrence. As @Warrier15 notes, the Cascadas hotel allows one to dial up the debauchery in the privacy of a comfortable hotel room. I guess this is a boring topic....but at least it will give the newbies an idea of what is possible in the club.

For a former TJ Monger I did not visit TJ and HK for the club/public debauchery as I prefer to enjoy that arriba.

The Cream shows were never my thing.

Occasionally they would bring a customer on stage and have some dancers tease him, it didn't look like much fun.

That being said I had plenty of fun during ficha sessions, which to me is the best $10 spent at HK (assuming you find the right BG).

I had one ficha session where I was fucking (with our clothes on) a BG in the Miami room, I had her in missionary (and a few other positions) her legs on my shoulder, she have me an OTPBJ, I had a FIV, and licked her kitty.

When we were done a few people came over and gave us a high five.

Cool @Cristobal. The thing about the public debauchery is...being able to act publicly in a, dare I say, outrageous fashion that violates the norms of "decent behavior". One can throw caution to the wind in HK....which is a big part of the fun. What happens in Arriba ....must be happening in the privacy of hotel rooms/homes of other cities in Mexico/USA. I am for more liberal social mores ....and more debauchery where consenting adults wish to indulge in it.

What happens in the main room at HK is pretty tame compared to swingers clubs. I’ve been in swing clubs in FL, TX, LA, CA, WA, NY and of course NV. Also in Canada, France, Germany, Netherlands and Mexico plus a dozen lifestyle cruise ships. In every case (except the club in NY) the public displays of sex and debauchery are so far past what happens at HK it makes the Zona seems very tame. Just saying that while ZN has its pluses (and I love it there) if viewing or participating in public sex acts is your thing HK isn’t the best place.

oh dang…

Gentlemen, you'll have to excuse my hombre, @Desertquim. 2's and 3's are a significant upgrade from the tail he chases at family reunions, except for Aunt Martha, who's a solid 4 when she polishes her dentures.

@623, you have a point. I don't think I will ever have the opportunity to go to Swing clubs. But I would like to read about what happens in those kind of clubs. Where can one read about them...and if possible, join in the fun?

The impression that I get from a few things people have posted, from a few words on the HK bar web site, and from the pictures of their furniture, is that this Miami VIP room is set up to allow anything, even FS, in that room, in front of an audience. What else could that little chair with new arms be intended for, except for making a porno grade scene with your girl?

So you maybe approached her when you were both on your feet, or when she was at a feel up station or on stage. Now you're taking her to the Miami room.

Why not, you just met her, got her in high heels and makeup. You and she will be upstairs TLNing, and then seeing each other outside of the zona. So this first time, why not put on an awesome show with her?

SJG

Fat and Ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3_CMDa…

https://hktijuana.com/assets/img/main/hk…

See, they give you not just a place to sit, but a patch of floor space and a cell of furniture. Note the little chair with no arms.

SJG

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8748

SJG

^^^ your imagination just flows at the San Jose Public Library doesn’t it?

@tbot1102 "The thing about the public debauchery is...being able to act publicly in a, dare I say, outrageous fashion that violates the norms of "decent behavior". One can throw caution to the wind in HK....which is a big part of the fun. What happens in Arriba ....must be happening in the privacy of hotel rooms/homes of other cities in Mexico/USA. I am for more liberal social mores ....and more debauchery where consenting adults wish to indulge in it."

You nailed it, tbot. One of the great things about this place is being able to let loose with no fear of being kicked out or arrested (within reason and with consent of the girl, of course). Like you said, throw caution to the wind, live out a fantasy, it's happening all throughout the club. Like they say, "When in Rome ..." Back in the day when I frequented U.S. clubs, I'd see some hot dancers and dream of being able to approach them and grope and suck their titties and play with their pussies right there. Well, in HK, this happens around the clock.

@SanJoseGuy: "The impression that I get from a few things people have posted, from a few words on the HK bar web site, and from the pictures of their furniture, is that this Miami VIP room is set up to allow anything, even FS, in that room, in front of an audience."

SJG: From what I understand, the renovated Miami Room was initially intended to facilitate the Front Room Makeout Session. But it seems many mongers have taken it several steps further with FS.

^^^^^ Awesome, Front Room Makeout Sessions, and being able to take it further are what we should have in this country too! Its the ultimate for meeting a girl and hooking up with her for the first time.

Thanks! JAprufrock +20

SJG

Great Pussy, girl at bottom
https://greatpussy.blogspot.com/

Fat and Ugly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea3_CMDa…

Diabetes info
https://glucofort.com/gfk-xpa-nll/index.…

So how about Las Chevelas, they say it is closed, that space used to make more room for the HK Bar.

So what is in that space? More VIP areas, more conducive to putting on a show in front of an audience?

Otherwise, Las Chevelas being gone is a loss.

SJG

This sucks, the last time I was in TJ was the year 2001.

las chacales is still there. it just isn’t a separate club anymore… now with two big interior doorways directly into hk showroom. still two bars in operation and separate music loudly playing. the same girls and meseros work both sides. as well as security, staff and hk management.

dang siri… chavales.

Last time I walked into Chavales, I didn't see any girls I was remotely interested in. Is the quality the same as Hong Kong now ?

sjguy… comment on the two pictures you posted links to on sept 15.
since these pictures taken… major remodeling upstairs and of the bar area and a new main entry into the expanded exclusive miami area.

warrior… the SAME girls work both LC and HK. it’s ONE CLUB now. just different rooms.

and one more time to practice the proper spelling… LAS CHAVELAS. thank you.

@JAprufrock distilled the whole philosophy of HK - " grope and suck their titties and play with their pussies". I like to do it in public because it fulfils a personal fantasy of mine and God bless HK and the amazing girls that allow us to indulge our fantasies. The privacy of rooms and booths is one playground...the club is a whole different playground. Props to the guy who found himself in a compromising (though wveryone approved) position in the club. Can't wait to get back in there soon.

Are the Playboy Club girls even more raunchy at stage side than the HK?

Yes, doing it in front of an audience makes all the difference, especially when you are with a new girl for the first time.

SJG

Sounds like this Playboy Club could have some advantages, but mostly if you don't want to do TLN. Like if you go there too early in the day. You play with a woman. Then if you want to see her again you can arrange it for TLN somewhere else.

SJG

Clapton, Layla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmlNAKyJ…

playboy club is maybe one percent of the fun that hong kong is.

Depends on what you like and what you are looking to do. For me, Playboy is about seven percent of HK. Finding a gem is rare, but it is still fun to look.

https://www.spicylingerie.com/ms-l776q.h…

I also like to look, especially when they are dressed and painted up slutty.

I am not sure though if the Playboy Club ever exceeds the HK Bar in this regard.

It does seem though like the HK Bar could be good if it is too early for TLN. So select a girl, engage 1st floor, 2nd floor, and VIP. Then part company, having exchanged contact info if you want to see each other again, and that would be in a hotel.

How about this renovated Miami Room in the HK, and the LC being folded into the HK? Can you bring in outside girls, like SG? That could be really fun. Get her in and then into the Miami Room and make a porno movie grade scene with her. Then maybe food in the Azul, second round makeout session standing on the balcony, and then maybe TLN.

It looks like maybe there are stores where you could buy her some serious stripper grade strapped on high heels.

SJG

https://www.spicylingerie.com/ms-pak-243…

One way to find out... get down there!

No more speculation, just do it!

SJC to SAN is about $120 RT. Uber to border = $40. Bus or trolley, $2.50 each.

Sorry there Greanbeans, I guess that was directed at me.

I have a very full plate and I am not generally a consumer of recreational services. The things I do always serve a much bigger agenda.

But beyond that, I have sensitive responsibilities, so I am not at liberty to disclose affairs of my f2f life.

I can and have posted a great deal about myself, but this is because this is online and not f2f, and so I am the one who decides where to draw the line.

SJG

I looked up some videos from there on a porn site. They showed some hotel sex. Guys having sex on stage with girls. Girls giving blowjobs in the club. But the girls aren't anything special.

Awesome Action Uniform, does not need to be taken off. Titty sucking, front door, back door.
https://www.etsy.com/listing/962933054/o…

Real good for stage side, or that Miami Room.

Do a round or two with her in this. Then maybe undress her and take her into the shower and then into the hot tub.

But none of the imagery coming out of that HK Bar shows the women wearing stuff like this. Any of the other bars more action uniform oriented?

SJG

Or like this:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1074874118/…

SJG

Learning more about some of the second tier TJ places. I see now. In the US, it is Deja Vu which has earned the title McStripClub. In Tijuana, a totally different kind of a situation, it is still the HK Bar which is McStripClub.


SJG

Open Cup Bra
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1037188483/…

Dulce Gabbana
https://www.google.com/maps/place/D%26G+…

Right next to it on corner
La Perla Restaurant
https://www.google.com/maps/place/D%26G+…

SJG

backdoor
https://ohlalacheri.com/plus-size-amber-…

https://www.3wishes.com/Plus-Size-Red-Ru…

backdoor
https://curvynbeautiful.com/collections/…

Fingering a ficha girl in full view of a crowded Adelitas.

Craziest thing I've ever seen:

2 bar girls having full on sex with 2 dudes onstage at Tropical, right next to where I was sitting.

Damn, I miss TJ.....

^^^^^^ Awesome Awesome Awesome!

In which TJ place is there the most stage side DFKing, FIVing, and DATYing?

In which do they wear the most action slut uniforms, stuff which does not need to be taken off?

https://ohlalacheri.com/plus-size-amber-…

In which can you put on a porno grade show with your girl, in front of some audience?

SJG

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8932

@SanJoseGuy: During my most recent visit in August, I was interviewing and vetting several chicas for entry into the organization I am building. This was at HK in the back corner of the Miami Room late at night. Lots of DFKing and FIVing. The DATYing I saved for when we continued the interview process in my room at Cascadas. Two were wearing school girl uniforms, one with thigh-high white stockings. I am pleased to report all four ladies passed the test and are eager to engage in the FRMOS once we launch in 2022.

@JAprufrock. thank you for being such a proponent of the FRMOS. There is a unique charm in that beautiful act. It is a great indicator of the debauchery that can ensue behind closed doors. FIV is interesting...never did that to anyone one-on-one....only did it to the foam-show girls. I believe FIV is also a good way to do the "smell test"...so a note to the future adventurers on that aspect.

Thank you JAprufrock and tbot1102 for being proponents of the FRMOS. It needn't be only Mexico either!

"remains one of my favorites over hongkong because the girls are more interactive and there are several darker corners to have some cheap thrills."

"She was wild and her name starts with an M i believe.
Eventually, she sat on the bar stool and spread her legs wide and pulled me towards her as a tease and I was rock hard at this point. Then she discreetly pulled mr Johnson out and rubbed him against her clit over her thing for 5mins while grinning. I encouraged her with more dollars until she was practically giving me a solid HJ bare at the bar."

https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=376139

SJG

Message just sent to an executive for a huge US strip club chain:

Adelitas Review
https://tuscl.net/review.php?id=376139

https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7673…

This is the way it should be, and not just in Mexico, but also in the US. We are going to make it this way because we won't accept anything less.

SJG

This account from a review for Adelitas, and it having lots of Columbian girls.

"She was wild and her name starts with an M i believe.
Eventually, she sat on the bar stool and spread her legs wide and pulled me towards her as a tease and I was rock hard at this point. Then she discreetly pulled mr Johnson out and rubbed him against her clit over her thing for 5mins while grinning. I encouraged her with more dollars until she was practically giving me a solid HJ bare at the bar."

Does anyone know what the legalities are for these Columbian girls being in Mexico? I would doubt that they are undocumented or overstayers, as they need to have a valid Puta License.

So how long can they stay, and how easy is it for them to make repeat visits?

SJG

BBW Uniform, Action, Backdoor, Lite Bondage
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9043
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=9042

This is interesting, the accounts from Adelitas of the girls grinding you with their rear ends, and then of the one who jumped up on the barstool and spread her legs real wide and undid the guys pants and was grinding his cock on her clit.

Countryman so wisely told us that he does not sit down until he has got his selected girl by the hand, and then one way or another that FRMOS is going to happen.

Well, if the girls are going to come up and start grinding you when you are standing up, you can't evade them by not sitting down. You are still going to have to make a choice.

And then for the HK bar a guy posted about walking about and walking past a girl who reached out and grabbed his cock and then said, "give me a tip".

I would suggest giving her something to encourage them, but it still means you are going to have to make a choice, escalate or decline.

I think it is easier like that when you are both standing, than when she is sitting on your lap. And then in my opinion, the very best way to start a FRMOS is when you are both standing up.


As for the girl who got on to the barstool and was grinding herself with his cock, I would say better not to let her get that far right there.

What do you want in a woman?

1. Dress and paint up
2. Follow your lead
3. Give up her three inputs

This is getting stalled on item 2, cause you are not leading. But before you can lead you have to make a choice, escalate or disengage. Giving her money is good and necessary, but there is still the choice.

If you choose yes, then you want to be talking to her, and acting on her body. DFKing should start early.

Then move her to some suitable place for oral both ways and first FS. Maybe in the HK Bar that Miami Room. Maybe in Adelitas the guy spoke of dark corners. You just met her and in the future you might be seeing her outside the zona. So putting on a show with her would be great.

The girls are not doing anything wrong, and so they should never be treated harshly. She will get to do all the unzipping and cock handling, just moved to a more suitable location when it can be followed through with.

IMHO, this is how to handle it. And then food would be best, and then TLN, and then seeing her regularly after.

SJG

Netherlands Roissy
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=8900

Hostess Clubs in LA
https://tuscl.net/discussion.php?id=7683…

Peter Frampton "I Don't Need No Doctor"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZZRQc9…

Latin Dance

Club Caribe San Jose
https://www.facebook.com/ClubCaribeDeSan…

Albertos Mountain View
http://www.albertos.com/

Bachata Basics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrdh-uF…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=di8MMJlg…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n29Pc4I…

SJG

Prince Royce - Adicto (Official Video) ft. Marc Anthony
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=deskto…

TJ Street Video, bare assed school girl right at the start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7wWh94w…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYogZ8wG…

SJG

Note bass line:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCztxPpq…

SJG

same, and real fast:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T6YMokS…

SJG

some Bachata Links on this:
https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=4073




ATACA & LA ALEMANA Bachata Dance Performance 40 MILLION VIEW PARTY At THE SALSA ROOM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85USoqN6…

Clearly this is not played with mechanical timing

https://musescore.com/user/21411336/scor…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXL_y30D…

How To Sound like a Bachata Band! - Bachata on Guitar by Steban Galeano, image shows 9 string guitar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwBVn56e…


Bass line and rhythm pretty soft, hard to follow. Personally not really a fan of acoustic guitar

Behind the Seductive Rhythm of Bachata (Feat. @La Santa Cecilia ) (this seems to explain it, and it looks like girl will play it on piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp24LDfy…

Introducing Bachata Breakdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFcU9fAF…

Me puedo matar - Bachata piano cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkItYzzZ…

Te Extraño (Bachata) - Extreme | Piano Cover by Piano Guru
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHZZZ_yL…


SJG

https://tuscl.net/photo.php?id=4073