My black friends from there are excluded from this convo. I know about 5 black people out there in Arizona and they are cool and one has a white wife but she’s from Atlanta. But u white people from there that’s on here... boy... I’m starting to see a trend... y’all Mfs racist as hell. What’s up with y’all out there that got y’all hating people for no reason? Is there not enough to do or what?
Arizona is very backwards and very much like the south. It has a major reputation for being racist homophobic sexually repressive xenophobic and conservative.
But there are major backlashes against the racism in Phoenix and Tucson.
Tribalism is the natural default state of humans. If all adults died and we had a global Lord of the Flies situation, we would be even more racist because that is who we are at our core. That's how our instincts tell us to live to increase our chances of survival.
To not be racist requires education and changing human nature. Anywhere there is a lack of quality education, there will be racist people.
@Richard wrote: "There’s racism and racists everywhere. Not just Arizona."
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Yes, and water is wet. The question is whether Az has a higher concentration of white nationalists, xenophobes, homophobes, and uneducated rednecks. Agree with @Icey that if you exclude places in the deep south, AZ is right up there.
Random, Arizona does have it's share, I won't deny that, but having lived here for 30+ years I think it has actually improved over the past decade or so. It probably doesn't seem that way because the fringe are very far right and get a lot of publicity. Arizona is very purple at this point.
Belief in conservative principals and a weak federal government is not compatible with racism. It is the economic prinicpals of the left that keep minorities in this country in poverty.
^^^ I guess that is why every neo-nazi and white supremacist group in the state identifies and votes with the Republican Party huh? And don’t get me started on the likes of Joe Arpaio and Russell Pearce.
i have asian white black brown and indian friends . i try to accept individuals regardless of their ethnicity. been in arizona since 1974. native of cali. my folks were cali bigots.
If the OP would have any pride and be proud of his blackness he would not try to invade white space. Even he hates that hes black. he shouldnt care about being accepted by white people. i hold my own prejudice against my own race if people
These crackas don’t talk like this everyday. Their ass would be in a compilation getting their ass beat. They only talk that shit behind their lame ass screen names
Is it ok for black person not to like another black person or is that racism too? just because one is not black, that does not equal that i have to like all the blacks because im not black. i like black people but i dont like all of you. i dont owe or have any endebtness to blacks. kiss my ass
Have your black friends complained about racism in Arizona, or are you judging the state off message board comments from PL's? I haven't seen extensive racism personally in AZ, but that doesn't mean it isn't present. Everyone's experience is different.
Icey, Random, and Breh seem to be the biggest and most ignorant bigots on earth. The only pussy talkinmg shit behind her screen is Breh, who would last about 5 seconds in a real fight before urine started dribbling down her leg. Joe Arpaio reminds me of Jesse Jackson.
@Skibum - what’s the matter with Joe Arpaio? While it is true that he was a bit of a publicity hound, it’s also true that he was a very effective Sheriff.
And some of the things he got publicity for were simply a case of doing the right thing.
For example, when he first took office, he removed cable TV for the cells of jails in Maricopa County. Inmates complained, eventually there was a lawsuit and he was ordered to restore cable access. He responded by restoring cable TV access, but only one channel was available - CSPAN.
@Richars_Head as usual, you have missed the point. A state Senator and a county Sherriff aren’t exactly in position to set policies that restore the 9th and 10th amendment.
A week federal government and federalism can only be accomplished through actions of people in the federal government.
Like I said, he was a bit of a publicity hound, but he did a good job.
He cut the cost of housing prisoners radically. Things like the aforementioned elimination of cable TV, reducing food costs, moving prisoners from air conditioned buildings to tents. (I don’t know if you have heard, but Phoenix can get a bit warm at times)
He always used to say that he didn’t want to make jail a pleasant place to be.
Human rights lol. Such a ridiculous phrase. What are these "human rights" and who the fuck decided that they are rights? If you get caught illegally entering twice we should chop off a foot and send them back.
The NY Times story wants me to register to read it. It’s not worth the effort for access to a steaming heap of crap.
The Guardian story starts out calling Tent City “Arizona’s Concentration Camp”. I’ve lived here since 1980 and can’t for the life of me remember any reports of gas in the showers or ovens to cremate remains.
A little (or a lot) less hyperbole and a lot more facts would be nice if you have a point to make.
Abraham Lincoln had a joke he used to like to tell.
If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
The answer is 4. It doesn’t matter if you call a tail a leg or not, it is still a tail.
There are two points in sharing that with you
1) Abraham Lincoln didn’t have the best sense of humor
2) Words matter
You can call Tent Citya concentration camp if you want, but it is still just a jail. Jails are not meant to be pleasant places. But calling Tent City a concentration camp diminishes the suffering that led to the death of some 6 million Jewish people who died in real concentration camps during World War II.
^^^ As I said, it was Arpaio who called it a concentration camp. Regardless, holding people in tents in the middle of the summer in Arizona certainly fits the description of cruel and unusual punishment. You haven't convinced me that he's not a racist POS.
How many people died as a result of living in those tents over the two decades they were in use? (note: I am talking about tent related deaths only. I know there have been. handful of cases of criminals dying while in custody)
Breh, you make everything about race. You seem insecure about your blackness and believe that is why everyone treats you poorly. Really it's because you're the cum stain your mother should have swallowed.
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No one can keep up with your level of racism, Wavey, I mean Clayton Bigsby.
But there are major backlashes against the racism in Phoenix and Tucson.
To not be racist requires education and changing human nature. Anywhere there is a lack of quality education, there will be racist people.
The answer is "Of course not, but you are ChickenShit"
BTW, you are a liar and a racist too.
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Yes, and water is wet. The question is whether Az has a higher concentration of white nationalists, xenophobes, homophobes, and uneducated rednecks. Agree with @Icey that if you exclude places in the deep south, AZ is right up there.
I hope you don't use terms like that in everyday conversation
And some of the things he got publicity for were simply a case of doing the right thing.
For example, when he first took office, he removed cable TV for the cells of jails in Maricopa County. Inmates complained, eventually there was a lawsuit and he was ordered to restore cable access. He responded by restoring cable TV access, but only one channel was available - CSPAN.
You gotta love that.
A week federal government and federalism can only be accomplished through actions of people in the federal government.
He cut the cost of housing prisoners radically. Things like the aforementioned elimination of cable TV, reducing food costs, moving prisoners from air conditioned buildings to tents. (I don’t know if you have heard, but Phoenix can get a bit warm at times)
He always used to say that he didn’t want to make jail a pleasant place to be.
What’s wrong with that?
If you are trying to control illegal immigration:
Do you think it makes more sense to look into the background of, say Japanese tourists?
Or an off road truck driving through the desert at night with no lights and packed full of Mexicans?
Tell me, which is more likely to be a group of illegal aliens sneaking into the country?
Oh the humanity!
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/25/us/fe…
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017/…
The Guardian story starts out calling Tent City “Arizona’s Concentration Camp”. I’ve lived here since 1980 and can’t for the life of me remember any reports of gas in the showers or ovens to cremate remains.
A little (or a lot) less hyperbole and a lot more facts would be nice if you have a point to make.
https://www.npr.org/2011/12/15/143765355…
http://sonorannews.com/2017/04/06/joe-ar…
We have never had concentration camps in Arizona. Any article that starts off referring to Arizona concentration camps isn’t worth reading.
I am sure the same is true of the new links you just posted.
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/hum…
If you call a tail a leg, how many legs does a dog have?
The answer is 4. It doesn’t matter if you call a tail a leg or not, it is still a tail.
There are two points in sharing that with you
1) Abraham Lincoln didn’t have the best sense of humor
2) Words matter
You can call Tent Citya concentration camp if you want, but it is still just a jail. Jails are not meant to be pleasant places. But calling Tent City a concentration camp diminishes the suffering that led to the death of some 6 million Jewish people who died in real concentration camps during World War II.